Family of shooting victim files suit against Hueneme School District Options

[Hartmann]

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008...gainst-hueneme/
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/c...1&cset=true

This is the story of the cross-dressing boy that the district allowed to cross-dress, more than likely so they wouldn't get sued for discrimination. The boy is shot and killed and now the parents are suing the school district for not enforcing dress code.

The sad part is that they will more than likely win.

We've almost completely removed parental responsibility from the equation.

Another angle of this thing is the fact that the family is calling for "acceptance", not "tolerance". They believe the school should teach about accepting people. Wow. What a dream world. Everyone is not going to be accepted all of the time.

[Mommy]

whatever. you all make it sound a lot worse than it was.

[Psykopath]

whatever. you all make it sound a lot worse than it was.

so, if your son goes down on a girl in front of people at a party, it's not "as bad as that sounds." ?

[Mommy]

so, if your son goes down on a girl in front of people at a party, it's not "as bad as that sounds." ?

The guy was my boyfriend of over a year but yeah mistakes happen...

My point was I never went and fucked a ton of guys to feel validated as a person. I never did drugs. I never woke up the next morning next to a person I didn't know and not remembering what I did. I made the mistake of thinking I was in love and allowing that person to dictate me and humiliate me. I did not want to do what I did that night, straight up. I was stone sober and didn't have a drop of alcohol in my system. He just kept begging me. Anyone who truly knows me knows that I would jump through fire to do something for people I care for which, unfortunately, included doing just about whatever former boyfriends asked of me. I thought that's what love was...doing whatever to make the other person happy. He also was the guy I lost my virginity to. Not too many of you understand what it's like to date an asshole who uses you and wants to make himself feel like a better person by showing off what he has. You all are guys. In fact, Brandon seems like the kind of guy to beg his girlfriend to do things she will most certainly later regret. Believe me, that plus being raped (again, sober...and this time there was nothing I could have done about it) by some other asshole a few months after I broke up with Austin made me a lot smarter of a girl. Yeah, I wasn't street smart because I was sheltered in my younger years. I didn't know how royally fucked up most college kids were. I had never even been to a party that had alcohol until I went away to school. Couple that with being 17 when I left for college and being a virgin, and you have a recipe for a lot of guys to come after you. When it boils down to it, though, I had a simple childhood, and I wouldn't have changed it for the world. I was allowed to be a kid. I didn't have to deal with adult issues like pregnancy and drinking problems. Believe me, I didn't know what love was for a very long time because of how I was treated during college, but you know what, I made it through that stage with the same big heart that I had before. This time, though, I know that the person I am married to won't take advantage of me. Probably every person on this site thinks that I jumped into this marriage because I was pregnant, and I don't care what any of you think. I have an amazing husband, and we are married because we have a strong love for each other. I can't tell you guys how amazing being a mother is. All I can hope is that my son won't make the same mistakes I did, but teaching him confidence should take care of that. I want my son to be able to be a kid though also just like I was. So in other words, you all can blow it out your ass.

[Psykopath]

The guy was my boyfriend of over a year but yeah mistakes happen...

My point was I never went and fucked a ton of guys to feel validated as a person. I never did drugs. I never woke up the next morning next to a person I didn't know and not remembering what I did. I made the mistake of thinking I was in love and allowing that person to dictate me and humiliate me. I did not want to do what I did that night, straight up. I was stone sober and didn't have a drop of alcohol in my system. He just kept begging me. Anyone who truly knows me knows that I would jump through fire to do something for people I care for which, unfortunately, included doing just about whatever former boyfriends asked of me. I thought that's what love was...doing whatever to make the other person happy. He also was the guy I lost my virginity to. Not too many of you understand what it's like to date an asshole who uses you and wants to make himself feel like a better person by showing off what he has. You all are guys. In fact, Brandon seems like the kind of guy to beg his girlfriend to do things she will most certainly later regret. Believe me, that plus being raped (again, sober...and this time there was nothing I could have done about it) by some other asshole a few months after I broke up with Austin made me a lot smarter of a girl. Yeah, I wasn't street smart because I was sheltered in my younger years. I didn't know how royally fucked up most college kids were. I had never even been to a party that had alcohol until I went away to school. Couple that with being 17 when I left for college and being a virgin, and you have a recipe for a lot of guys to come after you. When it boils down to it, though, I had a simple childhood, and I wouldn't have changed it for the world. I was allowed to be a kid. I didn't have to deal with adult issues like pregnancy and drinking problems. Believe me, I didn't know what love was for a very long time because of how I was treated during college, but you know what, I made it through that stage with the same big heart that I had before. This time, though, I know that the person I am married to won't take advantage of me. Probably every person on this site thinks that I jumped into this marriage because I was pregnant, and I don't care what any of you think. I have an amazing husband, and we are married because we have a strong love for each other. I can't tell you guys how amazing being a mother is. All I can hope is that my son won't make the same mistakes I did, but teaching him confidence should take care of that. I want my son to be able to be a kid though also just like I was. So in other words, you all can blow it out your ass.

You know why people are jumping on your case?
Because you're being a self-righteous, holier-than-thou, "little Miss Perfect" BITCH.


You aren't perfect. You weren't raised perfect. You aren't perfect now. You will never be "perfect."

Quit insulting every other person in existence for being different than you.

[Oasis]

You know why people are jumping on your case?
Because you're being a self-righteous, holier-than-thou, "little Miss Perfect" BITCH.

You know why she's like that, right?

She's extremely insecure about a lot of things.

I guess a lot of it comes from dating Austin. Apparently, he was a controlling douchebag who ridiculed her all the time. I think the whole overdefensiveness about her Philosophy degree came from Austin and his friends making fun of her for it. Not that Austin's stupid art degree isn't any less useless than Philosophy, but whatever. When it comes to any discussion of intelligence, she always attacks others to make herself feel better about what people have told her about her degree. Notice how every time we get in to it, she tries to discredit anything I have to say by making fun of the fact I have a high school education and no degree? We get it, Jessica. You think I'll never be as intelligent as you because I don't have a degree like you do. It's funny, the only person who ever brings up the fact I don't have a degree, here and in real life, is her. I think the degree thing bothers her so much that she subconsciously thinks people are judging her for it when they aren't. I never once judged her for it, I didn't give a shit what kind of degree she had and actually respected her for getting one (as opposed to me). I only used it against her in defense when she started attacking my intelligence because I didn't get a degree. It was kind of comical bringing it up, because it was such a sore subject and you could send her in to a fit

She's overdefensive about her diet, which people have constantly made fun of her for. The only thing that really bothered me about it is we were pretty limited to where we could go out to eat since she only eats like four different things. It was cool though, not drinking and ordering noodles made her a cheap date (which is a good thing, I hate dumb bitches who order the most expensive thing and eat five bites).

I'll defend her on one thing - she turned out a lot better than some of the girls I know who were raised extremely sheltered. A lot of the girls who had strict parents either rebelled by sneaking out and breaking rules or turned in to total sluts when they finally got freedom. Just because she dyed her hair when she dated Austin doesn't mean she was rebelling. I've seen girls do a lot worse than that. And for the final goddamned time, SHE DOESN'T CHANGE HER POLITICAL BELIEFS TO SUIT WHAT HER BOYFRIEND BELIEVES. We agreed on some stuff and disagreed on a lot of stuff. Other than occasionally hearing my point of view and maybe seeing things from a new perspective she hadn't thought of, she didn't morph her beliefs to fit mine. Just because she turned in to an anti government douchebag liberal fuckhead when she was dating an anti government douchebag liberal fuckhead, doesn't mean she continued to do it in future relationships. Take it from someone who actually dated the girl for nearly two years instead of believing what you want to believe on a message board.

As for the "I'm better than you" attitude, she probably got it from her whore of an ex roommate Stephanie. That bitch thought she was the shit and her shit didn't stink. She thought she was better than everyone else. I'm sure living with someone who acts like that for so long, you'll eventually believe you aren't as good as them and even look up to them. I could kind of see Jessica doing that when they lived together. Stephanie is one of those people who always has to be in control and have people look up to her, probably some defense mechanism to combat her own insecurities. She's one of those typical girls who thinks they're hot and better than everyone else. If you look back (Jessica or anyone else who knows her personally), Stephanie always seemed to surround herself with girlfriends who were fat, unattractive, social outcasts, etc. Probably to make herself look better. She thinks she's really attractive because guys give her attention because they know she's easy, but she's really not attractive at all. Jessica, this is me telling you this far after the fact (because I knew you wouldn't believe it when we were together and it would cause a huge fight)....Guys always flocked to Stephanie over you because they knew she was a slut and she'd fuck them. That doesn't mean you're less attractive than her, quite the opposite. It just means guys take the easiest route to get what they want - sex.

One other thing, and no this is not me speaking because I'm jealous, because I'm not at all. We, as a community, collectively understand that you have a child and a husband. We knew when you first announced it, we knew it when you told us about getting married, we knew about it when you brought up your pregnancy in nearly every thread you posted in, and we most certainly know now that you do in fact have a child. I'm sure you're proud of finding a husband and having his child, as I'm sure a lot of people eventually want to have the same thing in their lives. But don't be so quick to be overdefensive when people call you out on it. First off, it does get annoying when you bring it up all the goddamned time, especially when it's not even relevant to the thread you're posting in. I don't know whether you subconsciously try to remind everyone to show them that you've accomplished something or what. Maybe you want to re-enforce to everyone that you are in fact happy with your life now. Fine. We understand. Secondly, everyone on here is pretty intelligent. No one is really naive. When we hear that you're dating Audi one day, then the next you're pregnant by another guy you haven't even mentioned dating, then a few months later you're engaged and married right before the child comes, we can't help but question whether or not your "fairy tale" marriage and pregnancy is as much of a fairy tale you claim it to be. We see a girl who gets pregnant unexpectedly and certainly unplanned, then happens to get hitched to the guy shortly after, we're skeptical. Sure, for all intents and purposes, you might have met met this guy, he swept you off your feet and you very quickly knew you loved him and wanted to marry him after a few short months, and the fact that he impregnated you had absolutely nothing to do with the quickness of everything. But we're realists. Sounds like another case of some dumb girl who got knocked up and married the guy because she was pregnant. That's what usually happens in these situations. If all works out well for you, more power to you. But just know that from an outside observer's perspective, it looks like a textbook case of getting married for the wrong reasons. So don't get too bent out of shape when people question you about it.

[Dogmeat]

You know why she's like that, right?

She's extremely insecure about a lot of things.

I guess a lot of it comes from dating Austin. Apparently, he was a controlling douchebag who ridiculed her all the time. I think the whole overdefensiveness about her Philosophy degree came from Austin and his friends making fun of her for it. Not that Austin's stupid art degree isn't any less useless than Philosophy, but whatever. When it comes to any discussion of intelligence, she always attacks others to make herself feel better about what people have told her about her degree. Notice how every time we get in to it, she tries to discredit anything I have to say by making fun of the fact I have a high school education and no degree? We get it, Jessica. You think I'll never be as intelligent as you because I don't have a degree like you do. It's funny, the only person who ever brings up the fact I don't have a degree, here and in real life, is her. I think the degree thing bothers her so much that she subconsciously thinks people are judging her for it when they aren't. I never once judged her for it, I didn't give a shit what kind of degree she had and actually respected her for getting one (as opposed to me). I only used it against her in defense when she started attacking my intelligence because I didn't get a degree. It was kind of comical bringing it up, because it was such a sore subject and you could send her in to a fit

She's overdefensive about her diet, which people have constantly made fun of her for. The only thing that really bothered me about it is we were pretty limited to where we could go out to eat since she only eats like four different things. It was cool though, not drinking and ordering noodles made her a cheap date (which is a good thing, I hate dumb bitches who order the most expensive thing and eat five bites).

I'll defend her on one thing - she turned out a lot better than some of the girls I know who were raised extremely sheltered. A lot of the girls who had strict parents either rebelled by sneaking out and breaking rules or turned in to total sluts when they finally got freedom. Just because she dyed her hair when she dated Austin doesn't mean she was rebelling. I've seen girls do a lot worse than that. And for the final goddamned time, SHE DOESN'T CHANGE HER POLITICAL BELIEFS TO SUIT WHAT HER BOYFRIEND BELIEVES. We agreed on some stuff and disagreed on a lot of stuff. Other than occasionally hearing my point of view and maybe seeing things from a new perspective she hadn't thought of, she didn't morph her beliefs to fit mine. Just because she turned in to an anti government douchebag liberal fuckhead when she was dating an anti government douchebag liberal fuckhead, doesn't mean she continued to do it in future relationships. Take it from someone who actually dated the girl for nearly two years instead of believing what you want to believe on a message board.

As for the "I'm better than you" attitude, she probably got it from her whore of an ex roommate Stephanie. That bitch thought she was the shit and her shit didn't stink. She thought she was better than everyone else. I'm sure living with someone who acts like that for so long, you'll eventually believe you aren't as good as them and even look up to them. I could kind of see Jessica doing that when they lived together. Stephanie is one of those people who always has to be in control and have people look up to her, probably some defense mechanism to combat her own insecurities. She's one of those typical girls who thinks they're hot and better than everyone else. If you look back (Jessica or anyone else who knows her personally), Stephanie always seemed to surround herself with girlfriends who were fat, unattractive, social outcasts, etc. Probably to make herself look better. She thinks she's really attractive because guys give her attention because they know she's easy, but she's really not attractive at all. Jessica, this is me telling you this far after the fact (because I knew you wouldn't believe it when we were together and it would cause a huge fight)....Guys always flocked to Stephanie over you because they knew she was a slut and she'd fuck them. That doesn't mean you're less attractive than her, quite the opposite. It just means guys take the easiest route to get what they want - sex.

One other thing, and no this is not me speaking because I'm jealous, because I'm not at all. We, as a community, collectively understand that you have a child and a husband. We knew when you first announced it, we knew it when you told us about getting married, we knew about it when you brought up your pregnancy in nearly every thread you posted in, and we most certainly know now that you do in fact have a child. I'm sure you're proud of finding a husband and having his child, as I'm sure a lot of people eventually want to have the same thing in their lives. But don't be so quick to be overdefensive when people call you out on it. First off, it does get annoying when you bring it up all the goddamned time, especially when it's not even relevant to the thread you're posting in. I don't know whether you subconsciously try to remind everyone to show them that you've accomplished something or what. Maybe you want to re-enforce to everyone that you are in fact happy with your life now. Fine. We understand. Secondly, everyone on here is pretty intelligent. No one is really naive. When we hear that you're dating Audi one day, then the next you're pregnant by another guy you haven't even mentioned dating, then a few months later you're engaged and married right before the child comes, we can't help but question whether or not your "fairy tale" marriage and pregnancy is as much of a fairy tale you claim it to be. We see a girl who gets pregnant unexpectedly and certainly unplanned, then happens to get hitched to the guy shortly after, we're skeptical. Sure, for all intents and purposes, you might have met met this guy, he swept you off your feet and you very quickly knew you loved him and wanted to marry him after a few short months, and the fact that he impregnated you had absolutely nothing to do with the quickness of everything. But we're realists. Sounds like another case of some dumb girl who got knocked up and married the guy because she was pregnant. That's what usually happens in these situations. If all works out well for you, more power to you. But just know that from an outside observer's perspective, it looks like a textbook case of getting married for the wrong reasons. So don't get too bent out of shape when people question you about it.

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