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Hartmann
post Aug 15 2008, 11:20 AM
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http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008...gainst-hueneme/
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/c...1&cset=true

This is the story of the cross-dressing boy that the district allowed to cross-dress, more than likely so they wouldn't get sued for discrimination. The boy is shot and killed and now the parents are suing the school district for not enforcing dress code.

The sad part is that they will more than likely win.

We've almost completely removed parental responsibility from the equation.

Another angle of this thing is the fact that the family is calling for "acceptance", not "tolerance". They believe the school should teach about accepting people. Wow. What a dream world. Everyone is not going to be accepted all of the time.


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Spectatrix
post Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
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Hrm, can I put in my two cents?

It's hard to tell how much I was "sheltered" growing up. I was grounded so much that I didn't really have a chance to go out much anyway. Was homeschooled since the end of 2nd grade, but I did have plentiful extracurricular activities (dance, piano, girl scouts, adopt a wetland stuff, etc.). But they did send me off to college at 15, so I guess I wasn't sheltered *too* terribly much.

I had one douchebag boyfriend at 15 who really tried to pressure me into sex, but I successfully refused. Eventually dumped his ass, though I was with him for far too long. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 18 and not only was it on my initiative (shocker, considering the guy was 30), I delayed it a couple of months so that I could be well established on BC. Even though older than me, he was a good guy and we're still friends.

I only once got drunk (again, at 18) and that was with just a couple of good friends that I trusted completely. I went to a couple of parties with alcohol in my years at Tech, but never partook -- found it more fun to watch OTHER people get drunk. I've never tried any drugs, not even weed, and I the only time I ever smoked a cigarette was for about half a second.

Now at 24, I have a great job, an amazing relationship, and I couldn't be happier.

What would I have changed about my upbringing? Mainly the indefinite uber-groundings. I was grounded from everything but eating, sleeping, and doing schoolwork. Not being allowed to read for fun KILLED my love of reading and it took a good several years of concerted effort to revive that. I still don't read nearly as often as I used to, but I'm finally getting there. I would've liked more exposure to other religions, though I found those pretty readily in college.

All in all, I think even if I'd been completely unsheltered, my nerdiness would have kept me out of trouble. I never really associated much with the "go out and party" types -- all that didn't interest me. Even in college, I spent many a holiday playing video games rather than going out and getting drunk like many of my peers.

When I have children, I plan to instill nerdy interests in them early. That should hold them in check in large part. wink.gif Beyond that, I'd want my teenagers to keep me informed as to their plans, but not down to excruciating detail.


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- Hartmann   Family of shooting victim files suit against Hueneme School District   Aug 15 2008, 11:20 AM
- - Mommy   I don't know if I feel the same. I mean, dress...   Aug 15 2008, 12:16 PM
- - woody   fuck that shit. what happened to the parent ensuri...   Aug 15 2008, 03:05 PM
- - Mommy   The kid was at school. Parents can't do much w...   Aug 15 2008, 03:07 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 15 2008, 04:07 PM) The...   Aug 15 2008, 03:15 PM
- - James   Show me one dress code that restricts boys from we...   Aug 15 2008, 03:14 PM
- - chook   sounds like catch-22 for the school.   Aug 15 2008, 03:15 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 15 2008, 03:07 PM) The...   Aug 15 2008, 03:16 PM
- - Mommy   And how many parents these days work? The kid coul...   Aug 15 2008, 09:01 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 15 2008, 10:01 PM) And...   Aug 15 2008, 11:24 PM
- - Mommy   I don't know. I kinda see the college years as...   Aug 16 2008, 09:36 AM
|- - James   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 16 2008, 10:36 AM) I d...   Aug 16 2008, 10:07 AM
- - pysex   James is right. Those teen years are crucial to es...   Aug 16 2008, 10:15 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (pysex @ Aug 16 2008, 11:15 AM) Jam...   Aug 16 2008, 10:31 AM
|- - James   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 16 2008, 11:31 AM) I w...   Aug 16 2008, 11:53 AM
- - Mommy   You said yourself that they try to associate with ...   Aug 16 2008, 10:17 AM
- - Epic   here's my thing. the kid is in school for wha...   Aug 16 2008, 10:27 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   from knowing jessica on these boards, i can say i ...   Aug 16 2008, 02:06 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Aug 16 2008, 03:06 ...   Aug 16 2008, 07:36 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 16 2008, 08:36 PM) you...   Aug 16 2008, 07:42 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Aug 16 2008, 08:42 ...   Aug 16 2008, 10:07 PM
- - moebary   blue's b-day party a few years ago was my firs...   Aug 16 2008, 02:21 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   blah blah blah. we've seen enough of your post...   Aug 16 2008, 11:20 PM
- - Mommy   Yeah because I'm such a raving lunatic. My poi...   Aug 17 2008, 04:47 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 17 2008, 05:47 PM) Yea...   Aug 17 2008, 06:38 PM
- - impala454   say waah!?!? do tell!   Aug 17 2008, 06:59 PM
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|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (moebary @ Aug 17 2008, 08:41 PM) o...   Aug 17 2008, 07:46 PM
- - Mommy   whatever. you all make it sound a lot worse than i...   Aug 17 2008, 08:14 PM
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- - FORSAKENR320   well, i'll be honest.. i wasn't refering t...   Aug 17 2008, 09:02 PM
- - Mommy   Well, I'll be "holier than thou" and...   Aug 17 2008, 09:09 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 17 2008, 10:09 PM) Wel...   Aug 17 2008, 09:19 PM
- - Spectatrix   Hrm, can I put in my two cents? It's hard to ...   Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
- - James   Whoa. Hold up. You were raped? By who? Has the...   Aug 17 2008, 10:49 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (James @ Aug 17 2008, 11:49 PM) Who...   Aug 17 2008, 11:01 PM
- - Dogmeat   queers ... can't appease them, can't have ...   Aug 18 2008, 12:15 AM
- - impala454   So a public BJ huh? Pretty naughty I guess but no...   Aug 18 2008, 07:06 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 15 2008, 09:01 PM) And...   Aug 18 2008, 07:55 AM
- - impala454   I don't think it's a matter of them being ...   Aug 18 2008, 07:59 AM
- - Spectatrix   If there had already been threats of violence agai...   Aug 18 2008, 08:04 AM
- - chook   I hope you end up with Jocks spex :-P   Aug 18 2008, 11:13 AM
- - impala454   DUMB jocks...   Aug 18 2008, 11:50 AM
- - Spectatrix   That's what 70th-trimester abortions are for.   Aug 18 2008, 11:59 AM
- - Watchman   RE: Family of shooting victim files suit against Hueneme School District   Aug 18 2008, 04:01 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Oasis @ Aug 18 2008, 03:50 PM) You...   Aug 18 2008, 05:03 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   I JUST TOOK A BIG DUMP   Aug 18 2008, 05:44 PM
- - Mommy   Zach is PMSing obviously. I can't see any othe...   Aug 18 2008, 06:55 PM
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|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Aug 18 2008, 09:24 PM)...   Aug 18 2008, 09:06 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 18 2008, 10:06 PM) I d...   Aug 18 2008, 09:09 PM
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|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 18 2008, 10:19 PM) pro...   Aug 18 2008, 09:24 PM
- - Dogmeat   The STUPIDITY!!! *HISS*   Aug 18 2008, 07:33 PM
- - Watchman   i am so leaving techsans and never coming back, go...   Aug 18 2008, 08:02 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Watchman @ Aug 18 2008, 09:02 PM) ...   Aug 18 2008, 08:02 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 18 2008, 07:59 PM) I t...   Aug 18 2008, 08:36 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (woody @ Aug 18 2008, 08:36 PM) I h...   Aug 19 2008, 01:13 AM
- - Mommy   Neither has Forsaken now that I think about it, bu...   Aug 18 2008, 09:00 PM
- - Mommy   Perv.   Aug 18 2008, 09:26 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 18 2008, 10:26 PM) Per...   Aug 18 2008, 09:27 PM
- - Mommy   TOTAL THREAD DERAILMENT. WE RULE.   Aug 18 2008, 09:29 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 18 2008, 10:29 PM) TOT...   Aug 18 2008, 09:31 PM
- - Spectatrix   MORE DRAMA K THX BYE   Aug 18 2008, 09:32 PM
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