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Inferia
post Jun 10 2008, 12:39 PM
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I guess it is pretty obvious where I get this subject line. I read a paper awhile ago, which I re-read later called "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" by Peggy McIntosh. Anyway, the paper dealt with race, but in the beginning she touched upon the "male privilege".

"... I have often noticed men's unwillingness to grant that they are overprivileged, even though they may grant that women are disadvantaged. They may say they will work to women's statues, in the society, the university, or the curriculum, but they can't or won't support the idea of lessening men's. Denials that amount to taboos surround the subject of advantages that men gain from women's disadvantages. These denials protect male privilege from being fully acknwledge, lessened, or ended... as male are taught not to recognize male privilege... We in women's studies work to reveal male privilege and ask men to give up some of their power... After I realized the extent to which men wok from a base of unacknowledged privilege, I understood that much of their oppressiveness was unconscious..."

* Note that this paper was written in the late 1980s, and the excess ellipses is because it's an article on race which I tried to take out.

There were complaints from the Hillary camp that she lost because she is female, that (some) people recognize that it is difficulty for a biracial candidate to run for president, while she a female does not get the same recognition. That there is still a double standard on how we view females. Sorry this is not very well expressed, I hope you catch my drift.

I can't figure out how to make this into a poll, so...


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impala454
post Jun 12 2008, 09:08 AM
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I believe the person on these message boards with the highest income is a female wink.gif
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post Jun 12 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 12 2008, 10:08 AM) *
I believe the person on these message boards with the highest income is a female wink.gif

Who, me? No, I think Dogmeat makes more. Possibly a couple others too.

Though I'm beginning to wonder whether a high salary is worth being BORED OUT OF MY FUCKING SKULL. I mean, seriously, this is getting ridiculous.

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post Jun 12 2008, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 12 2008, 10:05 AM) *
Who, me? No, I think Dogmeat makes more. Possibly a couple others too.

Though I'm beginning to wonder whether a high salary is worth being BORED OUT OF MY FUCKING SKULL. I mean, seriously, this is getting ridiculous.


I don't know if I do or not ... my base salary is $68,000 a year right now but I also average ~$1,000 more a month based on my "day rate" so to speak, but latley that's been bombed because I've hardley been working at all.

I get $100 a day if we don't totally screw up a frac job up which usually we don't do. Some months I'll work 19 of my 21 days so I get a big bonus that month, but latley I've been lucky if I've been out 5 days a month sad.gif

That's why I've been online so much latley sad.gif

The $75k I quoted was based on me assuming that over the course of the year I'd average 10 days out @ $100 a day for the month for the whole year, or at least roughly ...

Believe me I know what you mean about being bored out of your skull ... I've literally been begging for more work...not shit work though, I wanna actually do something challenging .... unfortunatley they have twice as many engineers as they need and generally speaking this job is so easy it's just retarded, so he pretty well just gives the guys who have been here the longest all the work and the rest of us get screwed sad.gif


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post Jun 12 2008, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 12 2008, 12:27 PM) *
unfortunatley they have twice as many engineers as they need

Yeah I think this is the problem in a lot of places. I think companies know that good engineers are hard to find and want to hold onto the ones they have rather than having to go out and find someone when the shit hits the fan.

oh and not to try to "top" anyone but I guess in terms of total income I'd have a slight advantage in that I own a rental property that brings in $1000/month. and my salary here is $65k, so roughly $77k here. although obviously there are costs involved with it as well.
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post Jun 12 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 12 2008, 11:33 AM) *
Yeah I think this is the problem in a lot of places. I think companies know that good engineers are hard to find and want to hold onto the ones they have rather than having to go out and find someone when the shit hits the fan.


Dude it's a fucking joke with the company I work for.

My "mentor" rolleyes.gif doesn't even have an engineering degree ... he has a fucking "environmental biology" degree .... and now all of a sudden, he's an "engineer" .. He's a complete idiot too.... I think of the 17 or so "engineers" in my office only 10 of us have actual engineering degrees and only two of us have passed the FE exam.

My job is a fucking joke.


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