2008 Election Options

[impala454]

Ok well now that we pretty much have the two major party candidates, lets get this show on the road. Obviously some of you will vote for 3rd party candidates, just list them if you think they'll actually be on the ballot.

[Inferia]

This maybe slightly off base, but judging someone based on their values is about as shallow as judging someone based on their looks. I'm not sure it has much bearing in the world of politics, at least not politics nowadays. In reality we have no idea what these people's real values are, an in fact if the values they choose to present reflects that of your own, who's to say everyone should have such values. Critical of one's country does not equal lack of patriotism, just as much as unbridled love for one's country does not equal patriotism (more a long the line of nationalism). And frankly, my president does not have to be nice.

[chook]

This maybe slightly off base, but judging someone based on their values is about as shallow as judging someone based on their looks. I'm not sure it has much bearing in the world of politics, at least not politics nowadays. In reality we have no idea what these people's real values are, an in fact if the values they choose to present reflects that of your own, who's to say everyone should have such values. Critical of one's country does not equal lack of patriotism, just as much as unbridled love for one's country does not equal patriotism (more a long the line of nationalism). And frankly, my president does not have to be nice.

I'll agree with being critical is not necessarly unpatriotic, but the values thing I have to disagree with. Someone with values is more likely to keep to what they say they will do, be it good or bad. I really like McCain, because he has been critical of Republicans, way before it was popular. Go back 2001 December, every decmocrat and republican is all for war. Democrats pormised to reduce Iraq when they got the majority of house and senate. All they did was blast the military leaders for being inept. I think that both republicans and democrats are both plugging their ears in and saying we can do it without listening. I was hoping for hillary because she is more middle of the road, and wouldn't mind her as president. Second closest to the middle is McCain. Go Putin if you don't want nice.

[Inferia]

I'll agree with being critical is not necessarly unpatriotic, but the values thing I have to disagree with. Someone with values is more likely to keep to what they say they will do, be it good or bad. I really like McCain, because he has been critical of Republicans, way before it was popular. Go back 2001 December, every decmocrat and republican is all for war. Democrats pormised to reduce Iraq when they got the majority of house and senate. All they did was blast the military leaders for being inept. I think that both republicans and democrats are both plugging their ears in and saying we can do it without listening. I was hoping for hillary because she is more middle of the road, and wouldn't mind her as president. Second closest to the middle is McCain. Go Putin if you don't want nice.

I don't know. It's kind of weird that people (liberals, conservatives alike) thinking that their politician is some sort of saint. These are politicians, they have their agendas, and hopefully those agendas reflect the needs and desires of the people (and most of the time they do, depends on which "people" you're talking about). There are strong incentives to get their agendas accomplished, sometimes you bend, sometimes you don't. It's hard to say the value system for any regular person, let alone a politician.