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post May 20 2008, 07:20 AM
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Alright, so I have no problem with Obama not putting his hand over his heart during the pledge or national anthem but I do have an issue with him not explaining why.

He skirts the question every time, usually responding, "This is the classic dirty trick of the campaign.". He his making some sort of statement by not doing this and I want to know what it is.


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ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (AP) - Republican John McCain on Monday sharply criticized Democratic rival Barack Obama for not having been to Iraq since 2006, and said they should visit the war zone together.

"Look at what happened in the last two years since Senator Obama visited and declared the war lost," the GOP nominee-in-waiting told The Associated Press in an interview, noting that the Illinois senator's last trip to Iraq came before the military buildup that is credited with curbing violence.

"He really has no experience or knowledge or judgment about the issue of Iraq and he has wanted to surrender for a long time," the Arizona senator added. "If there was any other issue before the American people, and you hadn't had anything to do with it in a couple of years, I think the American people would judge that very harshly."

McCain, a Navy veteran and Vietnam prisoner of war, frequently argues that he's the most qualified candidate to be a wartime commander in chief. In recent weeks, he has sought portray Obama, a first-term senator, as naive on foreign policy and not as qualified to lead the military.

The Iraq war, which polls have shown that most of the country opposes, is shaping up to be a defining issue in the November presidential election. McCain, who wrapped up the GOP nomination in March, supports continued military involvement in Iraq; Obama, who has all but clinched the Democratic nomination, has called for withdrawing U.S. troops.

"For him to talk about dates for withdrawal, which basically is surrender in Iraq after we're succeeding so well is, I think, really inexcusable," said McCain, who has been to Iraq eight times, most recently in March.
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- Hartmann   My issue with Obama   May 20 2008, 07:20 AM
- - pysex   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:30 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pysex @ May 20 2008, 08:30 AM) odd...   May 20 2008, 07:36 AM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:36 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:49 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pysex @ May 20 2008, 08:49 AM) Wel...   May 20 2008, 07:52 AM
- - impala454   mccain will beat him easily. he has just enough o...   May 20 2008, 08:23 AM
- - cmac   RE: My issue with Obama   May 20 2008, 08:43 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 09:43 AM) Di...   May 20 2008, 08:53 AM
- - Oasis   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 08:58 AM
- - cmac   nope. it's the pledge of allegiance. the ple...   May 20 2008, 09:08 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:08 AM) nope...   May 20 2008, 09:12 AM
- - pysex   yes im joking   May 20 2008, 09:12 AM
- - cmac   maybe we need a president that is a realist about ...   May 20 2008, 09:23 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:23 AM) mayb...   May 20 2008, 09:31 AM
||- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 20 2008, 10:31 AM)...   May 20 2008, 09:37 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 20 2008, 10:37 AM) The...   May 20 2008, 09:55 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:23 AM) mayb...   May 20 2008, 09:41 AM
- - cmac   exactly my point   May 20 2008, 09:32 AM
- - Hartmann   Also, what was the point of the "eat as much ...   May 20 2008, 09:47 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:41 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 09:55 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:55 AM) the ...   May 20 2008, 09:59 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:55 AM) the ...   May 20 2008, 10:04 AM
- - THECHICKEN   I love how the economy is in the gutter when growt...   May 20 2008, 10:01 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ May 20 2008, 11:01 AM...   May 20 2008, 10:36 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE it's just funny to me to see people here...   May 20 2008, 10:02 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 11:02 AM) you ...   May 20 2008, 10:05 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 20 2008, 09:04 AM)...   May 20 2008, 10:17 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 11:17 AM) any ...   May 20 2008, 11:15 AM
- - cmac   you're joking, right? and we killed those peop...   May 20 2008, 12:02 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 01:02 PM) you...   May 20 2008, 12:33 PM
- - cmac   guns and bombs. we can talk about that again...   May 20 2008, 01:16 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 02:16 PM) guns...   May 20 2008, 01:42 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   god it's warm in here..... so many Blanket St...   May 20 2008, 01:26 PM
- - cmac   the u.s. soldiers get their guns and bombs from ir...   May 20 2008, 01:45 PM
- - impala454   Guns and bombs fired from iraqi insurgents is what...   May 20 2008, 01:48 PM
- - cmac   http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/77064/ http://ww...   May 20 2008, 02:14 PM
|- - impala454   link 1: 1 death, soldier responsible was convicte...   May 20 2008, 03:24 PM
|- - jwttu   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 03:14 PM) http...   May 20 2008, 03:26 PM
- - cmac   i'll criticize my side too, where it's des...   May 20 2008, 03:49 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 04:49 PM) 1. ...   May 20 2008, 04:26 PM
- - Jessica   Just found out this morning my husband has been at...   May 20 2008, 03:52 PM
- - cmac   i also like barack's technology policies. just...   May 20 2008, 04:03 PM
|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 05:03 PM) i al...   May 20 2008, 05:21 PM
- - THECHICKEN   1. Bush does not have a law degree... 2. Im just ...   May 20 2008, 05:20 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 07:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:33 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ May 20 2008, 11:01 AM...   May 21 2008, 12:56 AM
- - pysex   You're right. Americans need to stop thinking ...   May 23 2008, 09:41 PM
- - impala454   so supposedly obama is pretty much a lock now for ...   May 23 2008, 10:59 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 23 2008, 11:59 PM)...   May 23 2008, 11:18 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 24 2008, 12:18 AM) y...   May 24 2008, 09:20 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (pysex @ May 24 2008, 10:20 AM) hil...   May 24 2008, 10:02 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 24 2008, 11:02 PM) w...   May 25 2008, 09:32 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 10:32 AM)...   May 25 2008, 05:50 PM
- - impala454   that's why i'm glad to see him take the no...   May 24 2008, 08:32 AM
- - Dogmeat   I don't want a fucking communist in office, th...   May 25 2008, 10:35 AM
- - chook   I would actually vote for Hillary, Obama I would n...   May 25 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Watchman   My problem with Obama is that he's a member of...   May 25 2008, 03:53 PM
- - nickluto   RE: My issue with Obama   May 25 2008, 03:59 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (nickluto @ May 25 2008, 04:59 PM) ...   May 25 2008, 11:09 PM
- - Oasis   It wasn't until 1961 that a Catholic was elect...   May 25 2008, 06:13 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 07:13 PM) It ...   May 25 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 07:32 PM)...   May 25 2008, 06:39 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 07:32 PM)...   May 25 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 08:01 PM) Sor...   May 26 2008, 02:54 PM
|- - Melanie   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 08:01 PM) I a...   May 28 2008, 07:59 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 08:59 AM) T...   May 28 2008, 06:06 PM
- - pysex   Look we're fucked any way you look at it. M...   May 25 2008, 11:12 PM
- - impala454   Well with McCain what you really have to look at i...   May 25 2008, 11:59 PM
- - Hartmann   Ok, so Obama told a story of a platoon leader who ...   May 27 2008, 07:45 AM
- - Jessica   hah what a dumbass.   May 27 2008, 05:13 PM
- - cmac   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/i...i_n_1...   May 27 2008, 09:37 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:37 PM) http...   May 27 2008, 09:50 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:37 PM) http...   May 27 2008, 09:53 PM
|- - impala454   The most important question asked thus far: QUOTE ...   May 27 2008, 10:13 PM
- - cmac   yep. and that makes it right...   May 27 2008, 09:51 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:51 PM) yep....   May 27 2008, 09:54 PM
- - Jessica   If the man was just riding his bicycle, then why d...   May 27 2008, 10:03 PM
- - Jessica   I was responding to CMAC   May 27 2008, 10:23 PM
- - Jessica   this says it all This link was titled Patriotism ...   May 27 2008, 10:40 PM
- - Dogmeat   i seriously think obama is as fucking dumb of poli...   May 27 2008, 10:52 PM
- - Jessica   What I want to know is: WHO THE FUCK IS HE PROVIDI...   May 27 2008, 11:07 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 28 2008, 12:07 AM) Y...   May 28 2008, 01:51 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 28 2008, 12:07 AM) o...   May 28 2008, 07:48 AM
|- - Melanie   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) ...   May 28 2008, 08:01 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:16 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:43 AM
||- - Jim   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 08:43 AM)...   May 28 2008, 10:20 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 06:36 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (AP) - Republican Jo...   May 27 2008, 11:20 PM
- - chook   I remember the democrats promising to pull troops ...   May 28 2008, 01:41 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 08:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:09 AM
- - impala454   Not to point out the obvious... but 2+2=4   May 28 2008, 10:30 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM)...   May 28 2008, 10:35 AM
|- - Jim   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 10:30 AM)...   May 28 2008, 12:12 PM
- - cmac   hehe http://i29.tinypic.com/xqkf9c.jpg   May 28 2008, 11:52 AM
- - impala454   lol awesome   May 28 2008, 12:00 PM
- - impala454   uh oh, it's AIR OBAMA   May 28 2008, 12:13 PM
- - Testm0nkey   what cmac or whoever it was posting on the last pa...   May 28 2008, 06:33 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 28 2008, 07:33 PM...   May 28 2008, 06:38 PM
- - Testm0nkey   and so then the best thing to do is nothing about ...   May 28 2008, 06:42 PM
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