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Hartmann
post May 20 2008, 07:20 AM
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Alright, so I have no problem with Obama not putting his hand over his heart during the pledge or national anthem but I do have an issue with him not explaining why.

He skirts the question every time, usually responding, "This is the classic dirty trick of the campaign.". He his making some sort of statement by not doing this and I want to know what it is.


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post May 20 2008, 03:52 PM
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Just found out this morning my husband has been attached to an infantry unit in Georgia. sad.gif While he is medical, this does increase the likelihood of him being sent to Iraq sometime in the next year or two. He will be in the green zone the entire time working in a hospital, but it still sucks. I told him this morning I'm voting for Obama (of course, I was kidding) so that we can pull out of Iraq so he doesn't have to go. Honestly, Obama has no real solutions to the issue in Iraq though and I still would vote for McCain any day of the week over him. The fact that most of our troops support McCain has to say something about Obama. I mean, they are the ones being sent over there; yet, people who safely sit at home and watch and read liberal biased media are the ones saying vote for Obama because he has solutions to the war in Iraq... he will bring us home. Yeah, sure *rolleyes* That's why I support McCain on this issue...because friends in Iraq and friends that have been there and soldiers that have potential to go there still support the conservative agenda on the war. In my opinion, they would know better than anyone else.

And the fact that Obama refuses to put his hand over his heart is a GIGANTIC red flag for me. Seriously, when will people open their eyes?

I'm not so concerned about his lack of experience to be honest with you. Sure, McCain has a hell of a lot more experience in politics and the military, but I'm gonna give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this one. I mean, Bush was just a lawyer before becoming governor of Texas, which is largely a ceremonial position in our state. That isn't what I would consider a lot of experience. Yeah, there have definitely been a lot of mishaps during his presidency, but I attribute that more to policy-making decisions as opposed to lack of leadership experience. Plus, I feel Bush has had a very difficult run as president because of the incidents that have occurred (Sept. 11th of course beginning it all). I don't know how anyone would have handled that any better. Plus, after having been attacked by a terrorist, I can see how the Bush administration would want to eliminate a past and potential future threat to our security (Saddam Huessin).

In summary, Obama is a moron...not because of his lack of leadership/political experience; but more because of his policy on Iraq, his failure to display patriotism toward a country he wants to lead, and his racist comments toward people who "cling to their guns and religion" aka backwoods Pennsylvanians.
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- Hartmann   My issue with Obama   May 20 2008, 07:20 AM
- - pysex   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:30 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pysex @ May 20 2008, 08:30 AM) odd...   May 20 2008, 07:36 AM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:36 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:49 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pysex @ May 20 2008, 08:49 AM) Wel...   May 20 2008, 07:52 AM
- - impala454   mccain will beat him easily. he has just enough o...   May 20 2008, 08:23 AM
- - cmac   RE: My issue with Obama   May 20 2008, 08:43 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 09:43 AM) Di...   May 20 2008, 08:53 AM
- - Oasis   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 08:58 AM
- - cmac   nope. it's the pledge of allegiance. the ple...   May 20 2008, 09:08 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:08 AM) nope...   May 20 2008, 09:12 AM
- - pysex   yes im joking   May 20 2008, 09:12 AM
- - cmac   maybe we need a president that is a realist about ...   May 20 2008, 09:23 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:23 AM) mayb...   May 20 2008, 09:31 AM
||- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 20 2008, 10:31 AM)...   May 20 2008, 09:37 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 20 2008, 10:37 AM) The...   May 20 2008, 09:55 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:23 AM) mayb...   May 20 2008, 09:41 AM
- - cmac   exactly my point   May 20 2008, 09:32 AM
- - Hartmann   Also, what was the point of the "eat as much ...   May 20 2008, 09:47 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 08:41 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 09:55 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:55 AM) the ...   May 20 2008, 09:59 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 10:55 AM) the ...   May 20 2008, 10:04 AM
- - THECHICKEN   I love how the economy is in the gutter when growt...   May 20 2008, 10:01 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ May 20 2008, 11:01 AM...   May 20 2008, 10:36 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE it's just funny to me to see people here...   May 20 2008, 10:02 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 11:02 AM) you ...   May 20 2008, 10:05 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 20 2008, 09:04 AM)...   May 20 2008, 10:17 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 11:17 AM) any ...   May 20 2008, 11:15 AM
- - cmac   you're joking, right? and we killed those peop...   May 20 2008, 12:02 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 01:02 PM) you...   May 20 2008, 12:33 PM
- - cmac   guns and bombs. we can talk about that again...   May 20 2008, 01:16 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 02:16 PM) guns...   May 20 2008, 01:42 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   god it's warm in here..... so many Blanket St...   May 20 2008, 01:26 PM
- - cmac   the u.s. soldiers get their guns and bombs from ir...   May 20 2008, 01:45 PM
- - impala454   Guns and bombs fired from iraqi insurgents is what...   May 20 2008, 01:48 PM
- - cmac   http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/77064/ http://ww...   May 20 2008, 02:14 PM
|- - impala454   link 1: 1 death, soldier responsible was convicte...   May 20 2008, 03:24 PM
|- - jwttu   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 03:14 PM) http...   May 20 2008, 03:26 PM
- - cmac   i'll criticize my side too, where it's des...   May 20 2008, 03:49 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 04:49 PM) 1. ...   May 20 2008, 04:26 PM
- - Jessica   Just found out this morning my husband has been at...   May 20 2008, 03:52 PM
- - cmac   i also like barack's technology policies. just...   May 20 2008, 04:03 PM
|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (cmac @ May 20 2008, 05:03 PM) i al...   May 20 2008, 05:21 PM
- - THECHICKEN   1. Bush does not have a law degree... 2. Im just ...   May 20 2008, 05:20 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 20 2008, 07:20 AM) ...   May 20 2008, 07:33 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ May 20 2008, 11:01 AM...   May 21 2008, 12:56 AM
- - pysex   You're right. Americans need to stop thinking ...   May 23 2008, 09:41 PM
- - impala454   so supposedly obama is pretty much a lock now for ...   May 23 2008, 10:59 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 23 2008, 11:59 PM)...   May 23 2008, 11:18 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 24 2008, 12:18 AM) y...   May 24 2008, 09:20 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (pysex @ May 24 2008, 10:20 AM) hil...   May 24 2008, 10:02 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 24 2008, 11:02 PM) w...   May 25 2008, 09:32 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 10:32 AM)...   May 25 2008, 05:50 PM
- - impala454   that's why i'm glad to see him take the no...   May 24 2008, 08:32 AM
- - Dogmeat   I don't want a fucking communist in office, th...   May 25 2008, 10:35 AM
- - chook   I would actually vote for Hillary, Obama I would n...   May 25 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Watchman   My problem with Obama is that he's a member of...   May 25 2008, 03:53 PM
- - nickluto   RE: My issue with Obama   May 25 2008, 03:59 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (nickluto @ May 25 2008, 04:59 PM) ...   May 25 2008, 11:09 PM
- - Oasis   It wasn't until 1961 that a Catholic was elect...   May 25 2008, 06:13 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 07:13 PM) It ...   May 25 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 07:32 PM)...   May 25 2008, 06:39 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 25 2008, 07:32 PM)...   May 25 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 08:01 PM) Sor...   May 26 2008, 02:54 PM
|- - Melanie   QUOTE (Oasis @ May 25 2008, 08:01 PM) I a...   May 28 2008, 07:59 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 08:59 AM) T...   May 28 2008, 06:06 PM
- - pysex   Look we're fucked any way you look at it. M...   May 25 2008, 11:12 PM
- - impala454   Well with McCain what you really have to look at i...   May 25 2008, 11:59 PM
- - Hartmann   Ok, so Obama told a story of a platoon leader who ...   May 27 2008, 07:45 AM
- - Jessica   hah what a dumbass.   May 27 2008, 05:13 PM
- - cmac   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/i...i_n_1...   May 27 2008, 09:37 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:37 PM) http...   May 27 2008, 09:50 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:37 PM) http...   May 27 2008, 09:53 PM
|- - impala454   The most important question asked thus far: QUOTE ...   May 27 2008, 10:13 PM
- - cmac   yep. and that makes it right...   May 27 2008, 09:51 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (cmac @ May 27 2008, 10:51 PM) yep....   May 27 2008, 09:54 PM
- - Jessica   If the man was just riding his bicycle, then why d...   May 27 2008, 10:03 PM
- - Jessica   I was responding to CMAC   May 27 2008, 10:23 PM
- - Jessica   this says it all This link was titled Patriotism ...   May 27 2008, 10:40 PM
- - Dogmeat   i seriously think obama is as fucking dumb of poli...   May 27 2008, 10:52 PM
- - Jessica   What I want to know is: WHO THE FUCK IS HE PROVIDI...   May 27 2008, 11:07 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 28 2008, 12:07 AM) Y...   May 28 2008, 01:51 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 28 2008, 12:07 AM) o...   May 28 2008, 07:48 AM
|- - Melanie   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) ...   May 28 2008, 08:01 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:16 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:43 AM
||- - Jim   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 08:43 AM)...   May 28 2008, 10:20 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 06:36 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (AP) - Republican Jo...   May 27 2008, 11:20 PM
- - chook   I remember the democrats promising to pull troops ...   May 28 2008, 01:41 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 28 2008, 08:01 AM) I...   May 28 2008, 08:09 AM
- - impala454   Not to point out the obvious... but 2+2=4   May 28 2008, 10:30 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM)...   May 28 2008, 10:35 AM
|- - Jim   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 28 2008, 10:30 AM)...   May 28 2008, 12:12 PM
- - cmac   hehe http://i29.tinypic.com/xqkf9c.jpg   May 28 2008, 11:52 AM
- - impala454   lol awesome   May 28 2008, 12:00 PM
- - impala454   uh oh, it's AIR OBAMA   May 28 2008, 12:13 PM
- - Testm0nkey   what cmac or whoever it was posting on the last pa...   May 28 2008, 06:33 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 28 2008, 07:33 PM...   May 28 2008, 06:38 PM
- - Testm0nkey   and so then the best thing to do is nothing about ...   May 28 2008, 06:42 PM
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