I am an environmental criminal!!!!! Options

[Dogmeat]

I rode an OFF-ROAD VEHICLE through the woods today and burt fuel thereby making Al Gore cry!

I shall say twenty hail Tippers and then eat 1/3 of a pount of tofu to redeem myself in the eyes of Ol' Jesus!

[nickluto]

Snowmobiles add more CO emissions into the atmosphere in 1 hour of usage than a 2002 model car does driving 1,500 miles.

True story.








Which is why in the future all of the hardcore post-apocolyptic gangs will roll around on snowmobiles, snow or no.


Cause, you know they dont give a fuck.

[impala454]

Snowmobiles add more CO2 emissions into the atmosphere in 1 hour of usage than a 2002 model car does driving 1,500 miles.

I gotta call complete bullshit on this.

[nickluto]

I gotta call complete bullshit on this.

Eh. Im not an environmentalist, but I had to read the study as part of my Environmental Economics course I took this last semester and the studies report that it is true, whether you think it is bullshit or not. I dont have the exact study, cause my book is still at my apartment, but a quick google search pulled up this.

The EPA went even further to research individual ATVs: they showed that a two-stroke ATV or motorcycle could emit as much pollution as more than thirty automobiles operating in the same time frame. Even more shocking is that the ATV took a distant second from two-stroke snowmobiles, which can emit as much as nearly one hundred automobiles in the same time frame(USEPA 1996).

http://www.wildlandscpr.org/biblio-notes/o...ts-human-health

Im not trying to make a point environmentally. Actually, I could care less about the environment. I merely meant to be silly in my above post in line with dogmeat saying he made Al Gore cry by using an ATV. But since you took the 3 seconds to say that I was talking out of my asshole because it didnt "sound" like it could be true, I took the 3 seconds to search google to make you look stupid.

[impala454]

But since you took the 3 seconds to say that I was talking out of my asshole because it didnt "sound" like it could be true, I took the 3 seconds to search google to make you look stupid.

Then perhaps you can re-read the article you found in 3 seconds more carefully, then come back and tell me how in the hell your statement:

Snowmobiles add more CO2 emissions into the atmosphere in 1 hour of usage than a 2002 model car does driving 1,500 miles.

holds up. so besides the fact that you're trying to make me look stupid, with an article that doesn't mention CO2 in the whole damn thing, you also failed to show just how stupid the article itself is. check out this part:

Putting it in sharper perspective, at 25 miles per hour, on-road vehicles (cars, trucks, etc.) emit around 45 gallons/mile of carbon monoxide, while snowmobiles emit 348 gallons/mile. This is an 87 percent difference in emission rates between the two vehicles and the engines that power them (Cain and Coefield 2001). Thus, the 720 snowmobiles that are currently allowed in Yellowstone National Park each day emit more carbon monoxide than 5000 on-road vehicles.

WTF!?!? The dude is comparing the vehicles going at 25 miles per fucking hour!? well no fuckin shit its gonna emit more POLLUTANTS because the snowmobile is rapped out and the car is barely above idle. notice the word POLLUTANTS and not CO2. they're two different vehicles, geared completely differently, for completely different purposes. And then somehow you pull outta your ass that one hour of a snowmobile = 1,500 miles worth of a car in CO2?? Dude you seriously need to go back to the drawing board with this bullshit. Seriously, use your damn brain. How much fucking gas would a snowmobile use in 1 hr? How much fucking gas would a car use in 1,500 miles? Now how in the flyin fuck would the amount of emmissions be even close, much less more on the snowmobile?

[nickluto]

How much fucking gas would a snowmobile use in 1 hr? How much fucking gas would a car use in 1,500 miles? Now how in the flyin fuck would the amount of emmissions be even close, much less more on the snowmobile?

Two stroke engines (high specific power, low efficiency) v. 4 stroke engines (lower power, higher efficiency)

if less of the fuel is completely combusted, then more biproducts are released.

furthermore....

As they are currently designed, two-stroke engines - whether in a snowmobile or any other kind of vehicle or device - emit significant amounts of air pollution. One reason is that 20-33% of the fuel goes through the engine and out the tailpipe unburned. Another factor is that in standard two-stroke engines lubricating oil must be mixed with fuel. So lube oil makes up part of the exhaust, including most of the visible haze that snowmobiles produce. Snowmobiles are usually tuned "rich," meaning that there is a high ratio of fuel to oxygen. This improves cold starts and throttle response, but also contributes to emission problems.