IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )


> Does more history knowledge make you more conservative?
Hartmann
post May 7 2008, 07:01 AM
Post #1





Group: Admin
Posts: 3,402
Joined: 23-February 06
From: PDX/TXL
Member No.: 35



It's a pretty straightforward question.

My opinion is that it does in some way, as the liberal ideal is utopianism and an understanding of history makes it all the more clear that man is an imperfect thing and not able to be made perfect

Thoughts?


--------------------

"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist."
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Melanie
post May 7 2008, 08:28 AM
Post #2





Group: Members
Posts: 531
Joined: 26-June 06
From: San Marcos and San Antonio
Member No.: 221



Yeah, I'm going to have to say No to this question as well.

Both Zach and I have History degrees, and I know we are not the exception to this. One could say that a student of political science is also a history student, then this original argument would fail. You can't generalize people by what they study. Like, "education majors are just looking for husbands"

This is about as odd of a question as, "Is your dog conservative (based on if the dog chases cars)?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hartmann
post May 7 2008, 08:36 AM
Post #3





Group: Admin
Posts: 3,402
Joined: 23-February 06
From: PDX/TXL
Member No.: 35



QUOTE (Melanie @ May 7 2008, 09:28 AM) *
This is about as odd of a question as, "Is your dog conservative (based on if the dog chases cars)?"


Odd? I think it's a very valid question as everything we do/learn has an impact on how we think.

QUOTE
Yeah, I'm going to have to say No to this question as well.

Both Zach and I have History degrees, and I know we are not the exception to this. One could say that a student of political science is also a history student, then this original argument would fail. You can't generalize people by what they study. Like, "education majors are just looking for husbands"


It's not about studying, it's about knowledge. Having a history degree is one thing (especially if it's taught with a liberal slant) but reading history books and taking interest in history is a totally different thing, though they can be related.

I am not generalizing the way you are suggesting, I am saying that general knowledge in history should make one aware of the non-utopia reality in the world, which is an idea that most liberals disavow (you can read threads from this board for proof). We can make the world better but we can never make it perfect is what history should make obvious.


--------------------

"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist."
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- Hartmann   Does more history knowledge make you more conservative?   May 7 2008, 07:01 AM
- - Jessica   Very interesting question. Everyone I have met tha...   May 7 2008, 07:24 AM
- - Watchman   I think being a student of History makes you Liber...   May 7 2008, 08:14 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Watchman @ May 7 2008, 09:14 AM) I...   May 7 2008, 08:14 AM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 7 2008, 09:14 AM) W...   May 7 2008, 08:17 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Watchman @ May 7 2008, 09:17 AM) i...   May 7 2008, 08:20 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 7 2008, 08:14 AM) W...   May 7 2008, 08:25 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (blaarg @ May 7 2008, 09:25 AM) huh...   May 7 2008, 08:32 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 7 2008, 08:32 AM) I...   May 7 2008, 08:38 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (blaarg @ May 7 2008, 09:38 AM) So ...   May 7 2008, 08:41 AM
- - Jessica   haha i just remembered that Zach has a history deg...   May 7 2008, 08:19 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2008, 09:19 AM) ha...   May 7 2008, 08:43 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2008, 09:19 AM) ha...   May 7 2008, 12:58 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 7 2008, 01:58 PM) ...   May 7 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Melanie   Yeah, I'm going to have to say No to this ques...   May 7 2008, 08:28 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 7 2008, 09:28 AM) Th...   May 7 2008, 08:36 AM
- - Jessica   I wouldn't call a poli sci student a history s...   May 7 2008, 08:32 AM
- - blaarg   I've always held the belief that there are two...   May 7 2008, 08:40 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (blaarg @ May 7 2008, 09:40 AM) I...   May 7 2008, 08:42 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (blaarg @ May 7 2008, 09:40 AM) I...   May 7 2008, 08:45 AM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (blaarg @ May 7 2008, 09:40 AM) I...   May 7 2008, 08:46 AM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 7 2008, 09:45 AM) ...   May 7 2008, 08:58 AM
- - Melanie   Wouldn't you have to have a general liking for...   May 7 2008, 08:53 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Melanie @ May 7 2008, 09:53 AM) Wo...   May 7 2008, 09:15 AM
- - cmac   i think smarter people are more liberal. with the ...   May 7 2008, 08:57 AM
- - impala454   haha, hey man a missle can fix a lot   May 7 2008, 09:01 AM
- - impala454   I think in general something that is a hobby will ...   May 7 2008, 09:26 AM
- - Jessica   I still see very little relation between history a...   May 7 2008, 09:26 AM
- - impala454   I had a history teacher in high school who was dea...   May 7 2008, 01:01 PM
- - Psykopath   History degree classes I took involved everything ...   May 7 2008, 01:47 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 7 2008, 02:47 PM) ...   May 8 2008, 06:53 AM
- - chook   The more I know, the more I think politicians are ...   May 8 2008, 12:25 AM
- - False Dude   the nonutopian world of the past just makes it all...   May 8 2008, 07:00 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (False Dude @ May 8 2008, 08:00 AM)...   May 8 2008, 07:04 AM
- - False Dude   yeah doesnt mean to stop living for your ideals an...   May 8 2008, 07:07 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (False Dude @ May 8 2008, 08:07 AM)...   May 8 2008, 07:24 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (False Dude @ May 8 2008, 08:07 AM)...   May 8 2008, 07:26 AM
- - Testm0nkey   yes because the world we live in would be a much b...   May 8 2008, 07:27 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 8 2008, 08:27 AM)...   May 8 2008, 10:13 AM
- - chook   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 8 2008, 08:27 AM)...   May 8 2008, 10:19 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 8th December 2025 - 06:01 AM
Skin made by: skeedio.com