May 2 2008, 12:24 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE But at $10.9 billion, the profit still ranks as the second-biggest for a U.S. company _ the only larger result in a three-month period was the $11.7 billion Exxon Mobil posted in the final three months of 2007. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/01/e...ar_n_99568.html Nothing new here... Our addiction to oil continues to enslave us. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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May 2 2008, 10:55 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
sorry but i think a senate report on gas prices is a more reliable source
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May 2 2008, 10:58 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
sorry but i think a senate report on gas prices is a more reliable source I take senate reports very lightly... let's see, Iraq, gas taxes, healthcare... Yeah, they don't have the best record. I heard a few of the senators talking about revoking the gas tax for the summer. That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, people will save what, $.18 a gallon, all the while the prices continue to rise. When you get to Houston, let me know. I'll try to get a time to get you to a couple of the refineries here. You'll hear it straight from the horses mouths that these guys don't set prices, and I think they're pretty darn good sources. QUOTE Although different refineries have different operating characteristics, with limited exception the basic gasoline produced at any particular refinery will be chemically identical to the gasoline produced at any other refinery. A brand of gasoline is created when the refined gasoline is mixed with a company’s proprietary blend of chemical additives at the terminal, which usually occurs as the tanker trucks are being filled for their deliveries to service stations. Because all gasoline must meet the applicable minimum federal standards, most gasoline is identical even after the proprietary chemical additives are mixed.57 “Branded gasoline” is sold by the refiner with the understanding that it may be resold under the trademark or trade name owned by the refiner. “Unbranded gasoline” cannot be resold under the trade name. Branded gasoline is distributed from refineries and terminals to retail outlets, either directly to the service station or through bulk plants. Bulk plants are like terminals, but they are used by jobbers to store product for distribution to retailers.58 Jobbers purchase and transport gasoline from refiners and sell or distribute it to gasoline retailers or, in some cases, directly to the public through their own retail stations.59 A jobber may distribute several brands of gasoline, and may own or lease several retail outlets selling different brands, including unbranded gasoline. Jobbers who contract with a company to distribute a particular brand of gasoline are often required to obtain that gasoline from a particular terminal. Refiners and jobbers distribute the gasoline to retail outlets by trucks that generally carry about 7,700 gallons of fuel each. Figure III.4 (page 83) shows the flow of gasoline from the refiner either directly to the dealer or indirectly through a jobber distribution system. Straight from the subcommittee of investigations. QUOTE Economic principles dictate that markets in which a few firms have market power to affect overall supply will exhibit higher prices than more competitive markets. As long as sellers in a market can indirectly affect prices through their supply decisions, it can be expected that sellers will act in their self-interest to manage supply so as to maximize their profits; this means that producers in a concentrated market will attempt to achieve and maintain a tight balance between supply and demand. This is increasingly the situation in the gasoline industry today. Nationwide, in the winter of 2001 - 2002, demand fell and inventories rose following the tragic events of September 11, 2001. With reduced demand and higher inventories, prices fell. As a result, refining margins fell and refiners cut back on production in order to obtain higher margins. Along with the increase in the price of crude oil and market speculation, these reductions in production were a significant factor contributing to the run-up in price in the late winter and continuing into the early spring of this year. These are the only paragraphs in the entire report that I've seen that says anything about pricing and it states it is a matter of supply and demand and the equilibrium. Yes, they control the supply and limit it but they have to, otherwise you have refined gasoline sitting around and it does have somewhat of a shelf-life and the risks involved in storing it. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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The Fanatic Exxon Mobil Profits May 2 2008, 12:24 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (The Fanatic @ May 2 2008, 01:24 AM... May 2 2008, 07:20 AM
Hartmann Oh, and one other thing:
http://money.cnn.com/2008... May 2 2008, 07:58 AM
impala454 People who think Exxon sets the gas prices are idi... May 2 2008, 08:37 AM
The Fanatic They may not set the price of oil but it sure isn... May 2 2008, 09:39 AM
impala454 So does it make sense to get mad at Exxon for bein... May 2 2008, 09:45 AM
The Fanatic QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2008, 10:45 AM) ... May 2 2008, 12:06 PM
impala454 QUOTE (The Fanatic @ May 2 2008, 01:06 PM... May 2 2008, 12:22 PM
Testm0nkey can someone site me some sources saying companies ... May 2 2008, 10:42 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 2 2008, 11:42 AM)... May 2 2008, 10:52 AM
Oasis QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 2 2008, 11:58 AM) I... May 2 2008, 11:07 AM
Testm0nkey so you are saying you know more about it then the ... May 2 2008, 10:59 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 2 2008, 11:59 AM)... May 2 2008, 11:18 AM
Testm0nkey uh its not me saying this its a report from the fe... May 2 2008, 11:10 AM
Hartmann Oh and that first paragraph from the report I post... May 2 2008, 11:20 AM
Hartmann More, straight from that report:
QUOTE The price ... May 2 2008, 11:24 AM
Hartmann http://www.eia.doe.gov/bookshelf/brochures...005pr... May 2 2008, 11:29 AM
impala454 It's futile guys.
"American car makers ... May 2 2008, 12:12 PM
The Fanatic America does not suck but there is a lot of room f... May 2 2008, 12:16 PM
impala454 QUOTE (The Fanatic @ May 2 2008, 01:16 PM... May 2 2008, 12:23 PM
The Fanatic QUOTE what the heck does wages have to do with any... May 2 2008, 12:50 PM
impala454 QUOTE (The Fanatic @ May 2 2008, 01:50 PM... May 2 2008, 01:12 PM
Jessica To me, if companies like Exxon had any control ove... May 2 2008, 02:18 PM
impala454 As far as the economy, everything I've read ov... May 2 2008, 02:35 PM
Dogmeat I think it's absolutley fucking wonderful Exxo... May 2 2008, 03:55 PM
Testm0nkey QUOTE This is starting to get into Cat territory..... May 2 2008, 05:13 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 2 2008, 06:13 PM)... May 2 2008, 11:15 PM
jwttu so for those blaming Exxon are you suggesting we s... May 2 2008, 08:48 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (jwttu @ May 2 2008, 08:48 PM) so f... May 2 2008, 08:55 PM
Jessica O.k. so someone explain this to me because I am lo... May 4 2008, 02:02 PM
jwttu QUOTE (Jessica @ May 4 2008, 03:02 PM) O.... May 4 2008, 02:44 PM
Jessica but I've heard figures saying we get 90% of ou... May 4 2008, 03:35 PM
jwttu QUOTE (Jessica @ May 4 2008, 04:35 PM) bu... May 4 2008, 04:46 PM
Hartmann jwttu is correct, we are importing 70-75% of the o... May 4 2008, 04:51 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 4 2008, 05:51 PM) j... May 4 2008, 05:17 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Jessica @ May 4 2008, 06:17 PM) ho... May 4 2008, 09:41 PM
Jessica hmm interesting.... well, it still seems to me tha... May 5 2008, 03:42 AM
Hartmann You are correct. However, take not that a portion ... May 5 2008, 08:06 AM
Hartmann http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business...... May 14 2008, 09:43 AM
Dogmeat So what happens when ExxonMobil goes private again... May 14 2008, 10:31 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 14 2008, 11:31 AM) S... May 14 2008, 11:58 AM
Hartmann http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5807... May 30 2008, 08:47 AM
Hartmann http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5808... May 30 2008, 09:22 AM
Jessica http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/12/exxon.mobil/index... Jun 12 2008, 06:45 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 12 2008, 06:45 PM) h... Jun 12 2008, 08:06 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 12 2008, 07:45 PM) h... Jun 13 2008, 07:08 AM
Jessica http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080615/saudi_oil.html More... Jun 15 2008, 06:06 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE Subject: You be the judge as to why our gaso... Jun 15 2008, 08:07 PM
chook http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/inde...cts_i... Jun 15 2008, 09:46 PM
Hartmann The fact that oil prices continue to rise even aft... Jun 16 2008, 08:45 AM
Jessica QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 16 2008, 09:45 AM) ... Jun 16 2008, 09:18 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 16 2008, 10:18 AM) Y... Jun 16 2008, 09:31 AM
Jessica QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 16 2008, 10:31 AM) ... Jun 16 2008, 10:31 AM
Inferia Bush is suggesting drilling off shore, what do you... Jun 18 2008, 11:59 AM
Jessica QUOTE (Inferia @ Jun 18 2008, 12:59 PM) B... Jun 18 2008, 12:02 PM
impala454 They haven't voted on it yet... Jun 18 2008, 12:05 PM
Jessica QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 18 2008, 01:05 PM)... Jun 18 2008, 12:07 PM
Testm0nkey i see techsans is totally dead without me posting.... Jun 18 2008, 04:19 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 18 2008, 05:19 PM... Jun 18 2008, 05:21 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 18 2008, 05:19 PM... Jun 18 2008, 06:16 PM
Oasis QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 18 2008, 05:19 PM... Jun 18 2008, 06:27 PM

Testm0nkey QUOTE (Oasis @ Jun 18 2008, 07:27 PM) Tec... Jun 18 2008, 10:38 PM

Jessica QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 18 2008, 11:38 PM... Jun 19 2008, 10:44 AM

THECHICKEN QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 19 2008, 11:44 AM) C... Jun 19 2008, 11:17 AM

Jessica QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jun 19 2008, 12:17 PM... Jun 19 2008, 11:36 AM


THECHICKEN QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 19 2008, 12:36 PM) h... Jun 19 2008, 11:46 AM

Dogmeat QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jun 19 2008, 11:17 AM... Jun 19 2008, 12:16 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 18 2008, 04:19 PM... Jun 18 2008, 11:57 PM
Forum Warrior QUOTE (Oasis @ Jun 18 2008, 02:20 PM) You... Jun 18 2008, 04:58 PM
Jessica Ok... so not Exxon, but along the same lines. Here... Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM
nickluto QUOTE anything cathryn says
"Let me explain ... Jun 18 2008, 08:24 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (nickluto @ Jun 18 2008, 09:24 PM) ... Jun 18 2008, 09:28 PM
Dogmeat http://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topic... Jun 19 2008, 12:37 AM
THECHICKEN I know test was off the deep end a little, but thi... Jun 19 2008, 12:39 AM
Dogmeat QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jun 19 2008, 12:39 AM... Jun 19 2008, 08:57 AM
Jessica I don't see it that way. I think we all have b... Jun 19 2008, 12:04 PM
RitalinJunkie The sad thing is we all keep talking about it like... Jun 19 2008, 12:14 PM
impala454 QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Jun 19 2008, 01:14... Jun 19 2008, 12:33 PM
Dogmeat The solution is simple, it's just that 1/2 of ... Jun 19 2008, 12:53 PM
THECHICKEN What is wrong with drilling to get off foreign oil... Jun 19 2008, 01:45 PM
impala454 BUT OMGZ BUSH PROPOSED IT SO THE DEMOCRATS CAN... Jun 19 2008, 01:46 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2008, 02:46 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 02:28 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 03:28 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 02:36 PM
Jessica QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:36 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 02:44 PM

Psykopath QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 19 2008, 03:44 PM) w... Jun 19 2008, 02:55 PM

impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 03:55 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 03:01 PM

Jessica QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 03:55 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 03:07 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:36 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 02:45 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 03:45 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 02:58 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:58 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 03:14 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 04:14 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 03:25 PM

Psykopath QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 19 2008, 04:25 PM) I... Jun 19 2008, 03:39 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 19 2008, 04:14 PM)... Jun 19 2008, 03:44 PM
Jessica See? we don't need Cathryn to stir up trouble.... Jun 19 2008, 02:51 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 19 2008, 03:51 PM) S... Jun 19 2008, 02:56 PM
Jessica Here:
McCain began 2001 by breaking with the new ... Jun 19 2008, 03:10 PM
Psykopath side note:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_... Jun 19 2008, 03:17 PM
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