...and we're about to put an asshole in the presidency who wants to cut back NASA.... Options

[Dogmeat]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/30/cia.direc...nges/index.html

Hayden said the world's population is expected to grow by 45 percent to 9 billion people by midcentury, mostly in countries that cannot sustain such growth, such as Asia, Africa and the Middle East. Combine that with the likely mass migration to developed countries, and resources will be strained, leading to an increased risk of violence, civil unrest or extremism, he said.

I think that should be the sole purpose of humanity right now - The Space Program.

If we focused on that we'd develop all the technology we want and need ... recycling, alternative energy, etc ....

Sooner or later, we have to find a new planet, or the species will die ... It's pretty much a fact.

I dunno, I wish NASA had facilities engineers could work at in the rockies, maybe if I truly thought I wa doing something that would ultimatley benefit humanity, that would ACTUALLY benefit humanity at the coremost level we need it as opposed to a bunch of hippie tree hugger ideals, i'd be a more chipper person.

I dunno....I just read this article and it made me think about what a crock this election is going to be ... we _HAVE_ to have a space program.

[The Fanatic]

Cathryn and Brandon are both partially right. We are animals and as a result instinctively we are programmed to survive. Life is cruel, unfair, and unjust. Every creature must die in order for another to live. The real question is: how much stock is there in human nature? I believe there is more than Brandon and less than Cathryn is willing to admit. Laws, religion, social norms, and abstract symbols such as compassion community and justice need to be goals. There are plenty of crack addicts with 15 children that probably do not deserve aid and are misusing the system. But as a recipient of food stamps, CHIP, and eventually Medicaid; I can assure you that there are plenty of hard working single parent families out there that depend on these services. But why should you listen to me i'm just commie scum...



AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

no, i beleive that rules are very important. without religion or laws, there would be no society. but i don't believe humans are good natured. i view humans as a dangerous animal, and that those laws and religion that we are taught are a leash to keep us from destroying ourselves.

Brandon, why is society important?

This post has been edited by The Fanatic: May 2 2008, 01:13 AM

[FORSAKENR320]

Brandon, why is society important?

society is about equality. it gives people a chance to live without having to kill or steal from each other. it is an escape from our instincts. it can only realistically be pushed so far though. you can't climb to the moon with a step ladder. i believe cathryn and i's views of the perfect world would be similar, but our methods to get there are opposite. she would want there to be no guns, or cars to cause death or pollution. i would rather hand that person a gun, and be confident he would not use it for evil. she wishes to eliminate the tools, i would rather eliminate the criminal by fixing what would cause him to commit the crime in the first place. but until criminals are fixed, the decent people must protect themselves from the more human-instinct driven members of our society.