HPD kills a federal agent after high speed chase? Options

[impala454]

Ok Lance, here ya go man, a big fat juicy one. Surprised you haven't posted it yet
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5741363.html

Mystery continues to envelop a man shot and killed by Houston police Tuesday morning after a high-speed chase that ended near the Galleria.

The victim was identified by friends as Roland Vincent Carnaby, 52, of Houston. But who he really was — or more precisely, what he was — is something police are still trying to piece together.

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Whatever his real story, Carnaby's life came to an end about 11 a.m. after police forced his vehicle to a stop. He didn't acknowledge the officers who encircled him with guns drawn. And he "refused to put his hands where the officers could see him," said Houston Police Sgt. John Chomiak.

"The driver refused to comply, talk or roll down the window," Chomiak said.

He opened the driver's side door only after one of the officers smashed the passenger-side window, police said.

"He stepped out of his vehicle, turned around and reached under the seat," Chomiak said.

When he did, two officers each fired one time, authorities said. The officers were identified by police officials as HPD Sgt. A.J. Washington and Officer C.A. Foster. Carnaby was later pronounced dead at Ben Taub Hospital.

The incident lasted most of an hour. It began with a routine traffic stop when Carnaby was pulled over for speeding along Texas 288 near Orem. Carnaby raced away after the officers learned he had a license to carry a concealed weapon, police said.

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Although an initial examination revealed no weapons inside the man's car, that changed once it was taken into custody for a more detailed search.

"We have located three weapons inside the vehicle — two pistols and a shotgun," said HPD spokesman John Cannon. "At least one of them was within reach of the suspect."

There is definitely something fishy here. If nothing else, as to why the guy ran in the first place. I don't really question the police much in what they did, as the video on the news clearly showed him get out, then reach under the seat for something. I'm really curious if it was really a gun or something else. Not sure what the outcome will be, but when a 52 year old white man gets shot by da popos, it's bound to get a second look...

[cmac]

But that means that a potential criminal should not be allowed to kill someone. How do you propose solving that issue?

of course potential criminals aren't "allowed to kill someone." so what makes it right for civilians to kill potential criminals? maybe the criminals think that civilians are trying to kill them, and he's "protecting himself."
you're right, there will always be criminals that want to kill people. that is reality. but it's also reality that there is absolutely nothing that anyone can ever come up with to solve this problem. killing THEM obviously doesn't work. they still exist. so maybe we should think of something else. find another solution.
i would have liked to have heard this guy's story. why he was running. the cia side of it. his history. his story. that won't happen now.
maybe the tranquilizer thing is a little far fetched, but it's practical.
swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires life-ending bullet at criminal VS. swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires tranquilizer dart at criminal knocking him on his ass. move in. arrest. the beanbag guns exist. pretty much the same thing.
this guy could be sitting in a jail cell now and cops would have a few more answers than what they're searching for now. it's hard to question dead people.
i can, in all honesty, say i believe that force is never necessary. there are much more practical ways around any situation.
How do I expect crime to be dealt with in high risk areas and gang territory? It's not up to me, but i know that the world is full of people with very creative minds, and there is more than one solution to every problem.

[impala454]

of course potential criminals aren't "allowed to kill someone." so what makes it right for civilians to kill potential criminals? maybe the criminals think that civilians are trying to kill them, and he's "protecting himself."
you're right, there will always be criminals that want to kill people. that is reality. but it's also reality that there is absolutely nothing that anyone can ever come up with to solve this problem. killing THEM obviously doesn't work. they still exist. so maybe we should think of something else. find another solution.
i would have liked to have heard this guy's story. why he was running. the cia side of it. his history. his story. that won't happen now.
maybe the tranquilizer thing is a little far fetched, but it's practical.
swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires life-ending bullet at criminal VS. swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires tranquilizer dart at criminal knocking him on his ass. move in. arrest. the beanbag guns exist. pretty much the same thing.
this guy could be sitting in a jail cell now and cops would have a few more answers than what they're searching for now. it's hard to question dead people.
i can, in all honesty, say i believe that force is never necessary. there are much more practical ways around any situation.
How do I expect crime to be dealt with in high risk areas and gang territory? It's not up to me, but i know that the world is full of people with very creative minds, and there is more than one solution to every problem.

you're absolutely delusional. come back to the real world bud. your armchair QBing of this situation is pathetic. you'd be shot dead while fumbling with your nerf gun. I love how sad it is when people decide something should be done a certain way, but then also release the responsibility of it by saying "well it's not up to me, but I think it should be done this way". How about you become a cop, and go pull over some drug dealers and we'll see just how great your bean bags & tranqs match up agains what the criminals are carrying.