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post Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM
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So as I posted before, I'm taking Desrosiers for CS 1412. He's a dick.

Each week in lab we have a quiz. And the questions are usually either based on sheer memorization and usually pretty stupid. Last time in lab, the question was to write a program in PEN AND PAPER to use a SortedList (a generic class in C#) to do some stuff. No access to the book or MSDN either. He didn't cover it in lecture, it isn't in the assigned reading, but it was in a set of code samples he gave us (among 10 other samples). When the TA passed the quiz around, I saw a look of puzzlement amongst my fellow students. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who had no clue what to do here. In fact, literally half the lab cheated and looked things up on MSDN while the TA wasn't looking. I didn't, but I don't really blame the students that did.

Each week, the quiz is something more ridiculous than the one before it. And every time the quiz grades come back terrible, he blames us and tells us we need to read more.

Does anyone have any advice for me here? I could talk to Desrosiers, but I honestly don't know that it would do any good. Has anyone had much luck going over their professor's head and talking to the dept chair or anything of that nature?


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post Mar 20 2008, 11:37 AM
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Unless you are seeking what Blue said, college in general is the biggest waste of fucking money ever. You pay $30,000+ to put that you have a degree on your resume.

On a side note, Blue, I thought the Philosophy Dept. at Tech was on nationally recognized on the graduate level?
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post Mar 20 2008, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 20 2008, 12:37 PM) *
Unless you are seeking what Blue said, college in general is the biggest waste of fucking money ever. You pay $30,000+ to put that you have a degree on your resume.

You've gotta be kidding me. Are you telling me you think someone without a degree can go up against someone with one and get hired? We've got salesmen here with "bullshit" degrees like general business or economics or whatever, who pull in six figures easily. Granted not all business majors get jobs like that, but I know guys with business degrees who are making mid 40s two years out of school. Not to mention school loan interest rates are laughably low.

I'm not saying you can't make money without a degree, but it helps a ton, and saying that college in general is a waste of money is just downright stupid. Sure, it's a waste of money if you exit college and don't go get a job.
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 20 2008, 01:03 PM) *
You've gotta be kidding me. Are you telling me you think someone without a degree can go up against someone with one and get hired? We've got salesmen here with "bullshit" degrees like general business or economics or whatever, who pull in six figures easily. Granted not all business majors get jobs like that, but I know guys with business degrees who are making mid 40s two years out of school. Not to mention school loan interest rates are laughably low.

I'm not saying you can't make money without a degree, but it helps a ton, and saying that college in general is a waste of money is just downright stupid. Sure, it's a waste of money if you exit college and don't go get a job.
again, you're not understanding what Im saying. I never said that degree vs no degree. I said a degree is a waste of money except to write it on a resume. I dont think that anyone in a public state university is challenged to their full potential when 1) the state makes you learn shit you should have learned in high school and 2) there is a severe lacking i real world trainging. Major classes are too theoretical and not enough hands on. Thats just MY OPINION. Im not asking you to agree. Neither does it mean that I skated the program (like Blue has been assuming) so I didnt get the "full affect of college"...whatever that means
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- pebkac   Is this reasonable?   Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM) So...   Feb 27 2008, 12:26 PM
- - impala454   D is one of those asshats who has about zero real ...   Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM)...   Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM
- - Watchman   I'm glad I got out of there before Desrosiers ...   Feb 27 2008, 01:04 PM
- - impala454   He started teaching in the department long before ...   Feb 27 2008, 01:11 PM
- - Watchman   all i know is i didn't have to take him for 14...   Feb 27 2008, 01:45 PM
- - chook   Dr D is a former ChemE and a jerk. He applies how...   Feb 28 2008, 12:01 AM
- - Dogmeat   He is a lool.   Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM
- - koreanp1e   easy. transfer out of tech and get some real educa...   Mar 18 2008, 10:47 PM
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