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Hartmann
post Mar 5 2008, 08:23 AM
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I usually partake in early voting so I don't have to deal with the crowds and can do it on my schedule but I decided to see what it was like to vote in the actual primary.

I headed to my precinct's station and there were about 300 Republicans standing there, flat out being told that there is no Caucus for Republicans dry.gif This, as you well know, is a lie. When I walked up to receive my ballot I was asked which side I was voting for, I replied Republican and got two of the nastiest looks I have ever seen, so much for objective volunteers.

Other things I noted, at times, they were asking "Are you Democrat or Republican?" which is the wrong question to ask. I don't know if this was underhanded or just a mistake.

Lastly, I listened to Obama's speech and have to wonder, what does he really believe. He claims that we need to get out of Iraq and need to focus on home but last night he stated, "we can change the world" blink.gif Well, not without taking part in it.


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The Fanatic
post Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality?


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I explained everything in that "damn" paragraph you just lack the ability to comprehend what you read.



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You didn't explain a damn thing with this entire paragraph. You said you feel you've lost free choice. What free choices have you lost? How are you as a citizen affected by a corporation receiving a tax break?


Where did I say anything about a tax break in that paragraph? Corporations do not receive tax breaks for political contributions...

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How would you as a citizen be affected if all these "evil" corporations were just immediately slammed by the govt with regulations which bring them to their knees?


While I advocate more corporate regulation, even though I did not even address that in this post, I do not want to bring the corporations "to their knees".

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How about gas prices at $5/gallon? I think you completely misunderstand the importance of large corporations and how important their success is to our capitalist society's economy. What happens when they all start leaving the country for greener pastures?


Wow, try reading my post next time you want to respond. While I do not agree with our economic system, the argument that I am making has nothing to do with destroying corporations or bringing about some massive socialist revolution. All I am saying is that the money that corporations pump into political campaigns is directly effecting the decisions that politicians make instead of the fear of being voted out of office via angry constituents back home.

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mmk.. whatever that is supposed to mean.


Look at the back of U.S. Currency to understand the reference I am making...

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Let me stop you right there. American citizens choose who represents them in the government. We are indirectly making these decisions with our votes.


Again, if you would have actually read my post you would understand that yes votes DO COUNT but they are heavily tilted by the money that corporations pump into candidates. Candidates like Huckabee, Joe Biden and Ron Paul never had a chance because they lacked the big contributions from corporations. True free choice has been eliminated by media spending.


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post Mar 6 2008, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
I explained everything in that "damn" paragraph you just lack the ability to comprehend what you read.

uh oh, starting to attack the poster and not the post...

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Where did I say anything about a tax break in that paragraph? Corporations do not receive tax breaks for political contributions...

I gave a tax break as an example. If that's not a valid one, what is?

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
While I advocate more corporate regulation, even though I did not even address that in this post, I do not want to bring the corporations "to their knees".

What type of "regulation"?

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Wow, try reading my post next time you want to respond.

I did. These types of sentences are a waste of my time bud.

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
While I do not agree with our economic system, the argument that I am making has nothing to do with destroying corporations or bringing about some massive socialist revolution. All I am saying is that the money that corporations pump into political campaigns is directly effecting the decisions that politicians make instead of the fear of being voted out of office via angry constituents back home.

What decisions are the corporations affecting that you would otherwise make as a voter?

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Look at the back of U.S. Currency to understand the reference I am making...

I guess it escapes me. You'll have to explain. I (as you should be able to assume) am well aware that the phrase is on our currency. I fail to see what relevance it has to this conversation.

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Again, if you would have actually read my post

I did. Again a waste of my time to read this stupid shit.

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you would understand that yes votes DO COUNT but they are heavily tilted by the money that corporations pump into candidates.

In what way are your votes "heavily tilted" by the money corporations donate to candidates?

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Candidates like Huckabee, Joe Biden and Ron Paul never had a chance because they lacked the big contributions from corporations.

Huckabee never had a chance because he's too religious. Ron Paul never had a chance because he couldn't keep from saying cooky ass things. People (all people, not just corporations) tend to not donate to campaigns they don't feel will be successful. And what about Mitt Romny and Rudy Giuliani? They both raised far more money than McCain. You gonna blame their failure on the big corporations too?

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True free choice has been eliminated by media spending.

So you don't go to the ballot box and choose the candidate you want because of corporations?
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post Mar 6 2008, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 6 2008, 01:30 PM) *
uh oh, starting to attack the poster and not the post...


I gave a tax break as an example. If that's not a valid one, what is?


What type of "regulation"?


I did. These types of sentences are a waste of my time bud.


What decisions are the corporations affecting that you would otherwise make as a voter?


I guess it escapes me. You'll have to explain. I (as you should be able to assume) am well aware that the phrase is on our currency. I fail to see what relevance it has to this conversation.


I did. Again a waste of my time to read this stupid shit.


In what way are your votes "heavily tilted" by the money corporations donate to candidates?


Huckabee never had a chance because he's too religious. Ron Paul never had a chance because he couldn't keep from saying cooky ass things. People (all people, not just corporations) tend to not donate to campaigns they don't feel will be successful. And what about Mitt Romny and Rudy Giuliani? They both raised far more money than McCain. You gonna blame their failure on the big corporations too?


So you don't go to the ballot box and choose the candidate you want because of corporations?
NO ONE knows how to break down a quote like Impala. He takes that trophy hands down without a contender.
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- Hartmann   How was your voting experience?   Mar 5 2008, 08:23 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Mar 5 2008, 08:23 AM) L...   Mar 5 2008, 09:54 AM
- - The Fanatic   Washington can not be fixed. Corporations and spec...   Mar 5 2008, 12:22 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 5 2008, 12:22 PM...   Mar 5 2008, 01:24 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2008, 01:24 PM) ...   Mar 5 2008, 02:39 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 5 2008, 02:39 PM) Not...   Mar 5 2008, 02:49 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2008, 02:49 PM) ...   Mar 5 2008, 02:52 PM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 5 2008, 02:52 PM) You...   Mar 5 2008, 03:22 PM
||- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2008, 03:22 PM) ...   Mar 5 2008, 04:18 PM
|- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2008, 02:49 PM) ...   Mar 5 2008, 07:36 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 5 2008, 07:36 PM...   Mar 6 2008, 09:50 AM
- - Testm0nkey   oh well, hillary won TX anyway my voting experien...   Mar 5 2008, 12:24 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 5 2008, 12:24 PM)...   Mar 5 2008, 03:01 PM
- - The Fanatic   Fuck Hillary Clinton   Mar 5 2008, 12:28 PM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   Did yall see that Bill Maher thing where Dan Savag...   Mar 5 2008, 01:40 PM
- - cmac   this needs to go somewhere... haha   Mar 5 2008, 02:38 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Mar 5 2008, 08:23 AM) I...   Mar 5 2008, 02:45 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 5 2008, 02:45 PM) The...   Mar 5 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Mar 5 2008, 03:00 PM) h...   Mar 5 2008, 03:06 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 5 2008, 03:06 PM) I s...   Mar 5 2008, 03:09 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Mar 5 2008, 08:23 AM) I...   Mar 5 2008, 02:46 PM
- - Dogmeat   I shall vote when the McCain is available to be vo...   Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM
- - chook   Come on Sheeple give it to the man!   Mar 6 2008, 02:11 AM
- - The Fanatic   I explained everything in that "damn" pa...   Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 6 2008, 10:30 AM...   Mar 6 2008, 01:30 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 6 2008, 01:30 PM) ...   Mar 6 2008, 07:30 PM
- - The Fanatic   *Bangs head against the wall*   Mar 7 2008, 02:24 AM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   I have election fatigue....make it go away.   Mar 7 2008, 08:00 AM
- - The Fanatic   Don't worry, If Hillary wins this will be the ...   Mar 7 2008, 11:05 AM
- - Testm0nkey   wait impala, you dont think people have to either ...   Mar 7 2008, 11:37 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 7 2008, 11:37 AM)...   Mar 7 2008, 12:19 PM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 7 2008, 12:19 PM) ...   Mar 7 2008, 02:45 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 7 2008, 02:45 PM)...   Mar 7 2008, 03:42 PM
|- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 7 2008, 03:42 PM) ...   Mar 7 2008, 03:50 PM
- - Melanie   Hillary may have won Texas, but she did not win th...   Mar 7 2008, 12:47 PM
|- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   QUOTE (Melanie @ Mar 7 2008, 12:47 PM) Hi...   Mar 7 2008, 01:03 PM
- - impala454   http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp Barac...   Mar 7 2008, 03:58 PM
- - Testm0nkey   george had an oil company out in midland that he w...   Mar 7 2008, 04:15 PM
- - impala454   Well, when you hold 1000 seat formal dinners at ...   Mar 7 2008, 04:30 PM
- - Testm0nkey   and do you think the average american attends thos...   Mar 7 2008, 04:37 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 7 2008, 04:37 PM)...   Mar 7 2008, 05:14 PM
- - The Fanatic   Impala, you are aware that those are the amounts o...   Mar 7 2008, 04:37 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Mar 7 2008, 04:37 PM...   Mar 7 2008, 05:16 PM
- - Testm0nkey   am i the only one that has looked into going to a ...   Mar 7 2008, 05:30 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 7 2008, 05:30 PM)...   Mar 7 2008, 11:50 PM
- - Dogmeat   I am going to pee on all of those $10,000 pla...   Mar 7 2008, 05:43 PM
- - Jessica   http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080307...rg/ar...   Mar 7 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 7 2008, 07:32 PM) ht...   Mar 7 2008, 06:50 PM
- - Melanie   Barack Obama does great at getting little $5 ...   Mar 7 2008, 07:06 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Melanie @ Mar 7 2008, 07:06 PM) Ba...   Mar 7 2008, 07:10 PM
- - Dogmeat   I am laughing my ass off. Billary, Obama, Chelsea...   Mar 7 2008, 07:11 PM
- - Melanie   just think of it as a good tan. I heard this litt...   Mar 7 2008, 07:11 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Melanie @ Mar 7 2008, 08:11 PM) ju...   Mar 7 2008, 07:12 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Melanie @ Mar 7 2008, 07:11 PM) ju...   Mar 7 2008, 07:21 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 7 2008, 08:21 P...   Mar 7 2008, 07:26 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 7 2008, 07:26 PM) So...   Mar 7 2008, 07:27 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 7 2008, 08:27 P...   Mar 7 2008, 11:11 PM
- - Melanie   No, jerk!   Mar 7 2008, 07:14 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Melanie @ Mar 7 2008, 08:14 PM) No...   Mar 7 2008, 07:16 PM
- - Testm0nkey   ive worked at a grass roots nonprofit organization...   Mar 7 2008, 11:34 PM
- - Dogmeat   You never know, they might ... It's not unco...   Mar 7 2008, 11:37 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 7 2008, 11:37 PM) Yo...   Mar 7 2008, 11:47 PM
- - Testm0nkey   you are the one that mentioned the $10,000 pl...   Mar 7 2008, 11:53 PM
- - impala454   I fail to see your "!" worthy point.   Mar 7 2008, 11:55 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i never know really what you are talking about   Mar 7 2008, 11:56 PM
- - impala454   doesn't surprise me   Mar 7 2008, 11:57 PM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:57 PM) ...   Mar 8 2008, 12:03 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 7 2008, 11:03 PM)...   Mar 9 2008, 10:38 PM
|- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 9 2008, 11:38 PM) ...   Mar 10 2008, 11:56 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   lets all have some make-up sex I CALL BIG SPOON...   Mar 7 2008, 11:59 PM
- - The Fanatic   My feet hurt   Mar 8 2008, 11:04 PM


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