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Spectatrix
post Feb 28 2008, 04:00 PM
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Not 1 in 100 has been in prison at some point in time... no, 1 in 99.1 were in prison (at the same time) at the start of the year.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison...n.ap/index.html


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impala454
post Feb 29 2008, 01:18 PM
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An you guys sure blow more smoke than anyone I talk to. "OMG 1% is a lot we need to do something!".

Do what!?!?

The only logical way to reduce this number is obviously:
1. People commit less crimes that land them in jail
2. We make less things illegal that put a person in jail.

#2 is stupid. #1 is not going to be fixed by helping education. #1 will be fixed by having harsher penalties for criminals, but since everyone seems to be focused on making penalties easier, and treating them like some poor little kid that got his hand caught in the cookie jar, #1 will never be fixed. in fact, it will continue to increase because people are less afraid to commit crimes.
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post Feb 29 2008, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 29 2008, 01:18 PM) *
An you guys sure blow more smoke than anyone I talk to. "OMG 1% is a lot we need to do something!".

Do what!?!?

The only logical way to reduce this number is obviously:
1. People commit less crimes that land them in jail
2. We make less things illegal that put a person in jail.

#2 is stupid. #1 is not going to be fixed by helping education. #1 will be fixed by having harsher penalties for criminals, but since everyone seems to be focused on making penalties easier, and treating them like some poor little kid that got his hand caught in the cookie jar, #1 will never be fixed. in fact, it will continue to increase because people are less afraid to commit crimes.


From now on all I'm going to do is ask for sources. I'd really like to know the study or report that was taken/prepared that proves these points.

Thanks!


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post Mar 2 2008, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE (rabble @ Feb 29 2008, 08:44 PM) *
From now on all I'm going to do is ask for sources. I'd really like to know the study or report that was taken/prepared that proves these points.

Thanks!

/golfclap way to give up there chief
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post Mar 2 2008, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 2 2008, 02:48 AM) *
/golfclap way to give up there chief


So asking for sources is giving up? First off, I'll need a source for that, secondly, you asked cathryn for a source, does that mean you gave up?


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- Spectatrix   1% of US adults are in prison   Feb 28 2008, 04:00 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE The rate of increase for prison costs was si...   Feb 28 2008, 04:07 PM
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- - Spectatrix   I wonder what % of those incarcerated are there fo...   Feb 28 2008, 04:12 PM
- - impala454   1% is not a huge number, honestly. If you'd t...   Feb 28 2008, 05:23 PM
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- - Testm0nkey   i thought "crime" rates were at all time...   Feb 28 2008, 06:44 PM
- - Dogmeat   That's because we have high standards here. I...   Feb 28 2008, 08:46 PM
- - chook   I agree with dogmeat, but we really need to push e...   Feb 28 2008, 11:26 PM
- - Jessica   I have been watching a lot of the prison shows lat...   Feb 29 2008, 09:02 AM
- - rabble   impala wants to wiretap and incarcerate everyone a...   Feb 29 2008, 09:09 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (rabble @ Feb 29 2008, 09:09 AM) im...   Feb 29 2008, 10:05 AM
- - impala454   An you guys sure blow more smoke than anyone I tal...   Feb 29 2008, 01:18 PM
|- - rabble   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 29 2008, 01:18 PM)...   Feb 29 2008, 08:44 PM
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|- - chook   QUOTE (rabble @ Mar 2 2008, 08:08 AM) So ...   Mar 2 2008, 01:07 PM
- - Spectatrix   Actually, #2 is not necessarily stupid. I don...   Feb 29 2008, 01:49 PM
- - impala454   So now I guess someone needs to look up a breakdow...   Feb 29 2008, 01:51 PM
- - Testm0nkey   how do you explain progressive prisons that focus ...   Feb 29 2008, 02:04 PM
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