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Should we enslave the poor?
Should we enslave the poor in order to end poverty?
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Dogmeat
post Feb 22 2008, 02:49 PM
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It's really dawned on me that the poor, be they white, black, mexican, eskimo, french, who or whatever ..

Essentially contribute nothing to society.

They're lazy, they have bad attitudes, they aren't motivated, and generally speaking are just leeches on the rest of us who are actually attempting to be productive in life.

The problem with slavery in the past is that it targeted people by race, relegion or other politically incorrect classifications.

I propose that with the last century of what I'll call "Civil Rights Development" in mind, we re-instate slavery however we only enslave those who are jobless.

In essense, we can find everyone a job and then provide them with healthcare, etc, if they are enslaved.

It would be bad business for us to not take care of our slaves, however, the price for us taking care of them will be their slavery.

IE, they will work when, where, and how we tell them to work.

Eventually, once they've worked long and hard enough and are able to support themselves, they will be free of slavery, and than can own their own slaves.

I mean think about it ..

The poor in the ghettos, trailer parks, igloos, whatever... are poor, dejected, on drugs, etc ... they hate where they are, yet somehow, they refuse to leave.

I say we make em leave the shitholes they live in. If they won't get out on their own, we'll make them, enslave them, and force them to better themselves..

All the while contributing to the economy ... we'll have a society of productive people who aren't lazy anymore.

Sound good? I think so.

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The Fanatic
post Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality?


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Wow nice retort impala


Saying my ideas are stupid blows them right out of the water


The truth is there are pros and cons to all economic systems. And yes you can read, but you have trouble with comprehension, I did say that most of our citizens are either living with mediocrity or are poverty stricken.

Yeah we don't need government control and regulation

DOWN WITH MINIMUM WAGE AND CHILD WORK SAFETY LAWS BLAHHHHHHHHHH!

Pure capitalism is brutish and inhumane; doing everything you can get away with at the lowest cost.

The bottom line.

I don't know why this concept is so hard for you to understand: Not everyone can go out and make a million dollars because there is a LIMITED amount of capital. For one to be rich there have to be a million under him that are poor. Billions of dollars are made off of the sweat and labor of many.


Socialism is not about control it is about human decency and class equality. Control is the realm of governments not socio economic systems.


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post Feb 25 2008, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Wow nice retort impala
Saying my ideas are stupid blows them right out of the water

Don't pin me as some witless retard. I called your statement stupid, and then proceeded to tell you why I felt it was.

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
The truth is there are pros and cons to all economic systems.

That's an amazing conclusion /golfclap

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
And yes you can read, but you have trouble with comprehension, I did say that most of our citizens are either living with mediocrity or are poverty stricken.

Well it's pretty difficult to comprehend something that doesn't make any sense. What exactly gives you the idea that "most americans live in mediocrity or are poverty stricken"? 8.6% of americans make less than $10,000. 21.6% make less than $20,000. How you turn that into "most" americans is incomprehensible.


QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Yeah we don't need government control and regulation

DOWN WITH MINIMUM WAGE AND CHILD WORK SAFETY LAWS BLAHHHHHHHHHH!

If you really took what I said as "do away with minimum wage and child work safety laws" or think from my posts that's what I believe, then I've severely failed to correctly assume your level of intelligence. I will try to connect the dots for you in my future debates with you.

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Pure capitalism is brutish and inhumane; doing everything you can get away with at the lowest cost.

Agreed

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
I don't know why this concept is so hard for you to understand: Not everyone can go out and make a million dollars because there is a LIMITED amount of capital.

It's not hard for me to understand it at all, but it's not what you were saying. You were saying there's a limited amount of jobs. There's not. People can do whatever they want. And you don't have to make a million dollars to not be poor. And again, one doesn't necessarily need to be rich in order to not be poor.

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
For one to be rich there have to be a million under him that are poor. Billions of dollars are made off of the sweat and labor of many.

You think every single job in existence must lead to a poor person doing all the "sweat and labor"? I can name jobs all day where that's not the case.

QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 25 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Socialism is not about control it is about human decency and class equality. Control is the realm of governments not socio economic systems.

There are no "classes" in socialism. Everyone is one and the same. You have no ambition, no strive to be better than you are, or to excel at what you do. It is truly the definition of mediocrity. It saddens me that college educated american citizens can believe this is a legitimate way of life.
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