How the tax system works Options

[cmac]

Interesting....
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Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.
"Since you are all such good customers", he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20". Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia

[Dogmeat]

Obama is a fucking communist. Period.

Democrats scarape the bottom of the barrel of American society for votes.

Personally I don't think that you should be allowed to vote unless you can prove you're making more than $24,000 a year, because essentially you aren't contributing to the economy therefore I fail to see how you should have any say in selecting who decides economic policy for this country.

Oh wait, if we did that there would never be a Democrat that would ever get elected. Oh darn.


Yeah I'm gonna be fucked paying %40 income tax if Hillary and/or Obama get their way becacuse I'm just so so so so so so so so rich

[Psykopath]

Obama is a fucking communist. Period.

Democrats scarape the bottom of the barrel of American society for votes.

Personally I don't think that you should be allowed to vote unless you can prove you're making more than $24,000 a year, because essentially you aren't contributing to the economy therefore I fail to see how you should have any say in selecting who decides economic policy for this country.

Oh wait, if we did that there would never be a Democrat that would ever get elected. Oh darn.
Yeah I'm gonna be fucked paying %40 income tax if Hillary and/or Obama get their way becacuse I'm just so so so so so so so so rich

HAHAHA

Disenfranchisement much?


Seriously, Aaron....how truthful are you being with your posted political views on Techsans?
Because you call Obama an "evil liberal hippie communist end-of-world blah blah waaaaah" guy, yet you make completely unAmerican and fucked up statements like that...

[Dogmeat]

HAHAHA

Disenfranchisement much?
Seriously, Aaron....how truthful are you being with your posted political views on Techsans?
Because you call Obama an "evil liberal hippie communist end-of-world blah blah waaaaah" guy, yet you make completely unAmerican and fucked up statements like that...

People who do not contribute to the US economy should not have a say in US economic policy.

It's the same logic that pro-choice people use. Men shouldn't have a right to dictate how a woman cares for her body.

Seriously, why should a bunch of jobless laid-off union workers blown out of their minds on cocaine and marajuana who are milking the companies they used to work for on health insurance because they're too stupid to not destroy themselves be able to dictate how much of my paycheck that I actually earn goes to trying to fix their fuckups in life?

[Psykopath]

People who do not contribute to the US economy should not have a say in US economic policy.

It's the same logic that pro-choice people use. Men shouldn't have a right to dictate how a woman cares for her body.

Seriously, why should a bunch of jobless laid-off union workers blown out of their minds on cocaine and marajuana who are milking the companies they used to work for on health insurance because they're too stupid to not destroy themselves be able to dictate how much of my paycheck that I actually earn goes to trying to fix their fuckups in life?

So elected officials only decide economic policy?

Wow, news to me.

[Dogmeat]

So elected officials only decide economic policy?

Wow, news to me.

Who votes them into office is what I'm getting at here. And no, just because a few news headlines claim that Obama's "gaining support" from young twenty-something well-paid college graduates doesn't overturn the fact that Democrats primarily scrape the bottom of the barrel of American society for votes....

[Psykopath]

Who votes them into office is what I'm getting at here. And no, just because a few news headlines claim that Obama's "gaining support" from young twenty-something well-paid college graduates doesn't overturn the fact that Democrats primarily scrape the bottom of the barrel of American society for votes....

I've seen plenty of white-trash rednecks (i.e.- "bottom of the barrel of American society") vote Republican.

[Dogmeat]

I've seen plenty of white-trash rednecks (i.e.- "bottom of the barrel of American society") vote Republican.

Were they employed?

[Psykopath]

Were they employed?

Some yes, some no.

Right but they aren't exactly the "targeted" voters by the Republican candidates.

Riiiiight.

Just like Black voters aren't targeted by Obama and women voters aren't targeted by Hilary.

[impala454]

Riiiiight.

Just like Black voters aren't targeted by Obama and women voters aren't targeted by Hilary.

I haven't seen John McCain at a Nascar race. I have, however seen Obama trolling the poor neighborhoods and Hillary preaching up the women's associations (not to mention her presentation of herself as "Hillary Rodham Clinton" when around women's groups/liberals and "Hillary Clinton" with Bill by her side when in a more conservative area.