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I don't have a player of either format [ 16 ] ** [88.89%]
I have a standalone HD-DVD player [ 2 ] ** [11.11%]
I have a XBox 360 HD-DVD addon [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
I have a standalone Blu-ray player [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
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If you don't have a player, are you planning on getting one?
No [ 14 ] ** [77.78%]
Yes, HD-DVD [ 2 ] ** [11.11%]
Yes, Blu-ray [ 1 ] ** [5.56%]
Yes, both [ 1 ] ** [5.56%]
Do you have a HDTV?
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impala454
post Dec 4 2007, 02:37 PM
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Curious if anyone on here has bought into either format. I got weak a while back and got a Blu-ray standalone player to go with my HD-DVD standalone. Seems like the format "war" is kind of at a stalemate for the time being. After having both for a while, I have to admit they both look equally amazing. I guess it's just up to which studios support which format exclusively in the end.
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post Feb 19 2008, 07:07 AM
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Toshiba finally throws in their gloves....

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/19/technology...sion=2008021904

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Toshiba quits HD DVD business
Decision hands victory in DVD format battle to Sony-backed Blu-ray technology.

February 19 2008: 4:36 AM EST

TOKYO (AP) -- Toshiba said Tuesday it will no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology in the format battle for next-generation video.

"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo offices.

The move would make Blu-ray - backed by Sony Corp (SNE)., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios - the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago.

Nishida said last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format made the move inevitable.

"That had tremendous impact," he said. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win."

Warner joined Sony Pictures, Walt Disney Co (DIS, Fortune 500). and News Corp.'s (NWS, Fortune 500) Twentieth Century Fox in that move.

Nishida said his company had confidence in HD DVD as a technology and tried to assure the estimated 1 million people, including some 600,000 people in North America, who already bought HD DVD machines by promising that Toshiba will continue to provide product support for the technology.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound, which are more detailed and vivid than existing video technology. They are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players. But both formats play on high-definition TVs.

HD DVD was touted as being cheaper because it was more similar to previous video technology, while Blu-ray boasted bigger recording capacity.

Only one video format has been expected to emerge as the victor, much like VHS trumped Sony's Betamax in the video format battle of the 1980s.

Nishida said it was still uncertain what will happen with the Hollywood studios that signed to produce HD DVD movies, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation (DWA).

Toshiba's pulling the plug on the technology is expected to reduce the number of new high-definition movies that people will be able to watch on HD DVD machines. Toshiba Corp. said shipments of HD DVD machines to retailers will be reduced and will stop by end of March.

Sales in Blu-ray gadgets are now likely to pick up as consumers had held off in investing in the latest recorders and players because they didn't know which format would emerge dominant.

Despite being a possible blow to Toshiba's pride, the exit will probably lessen the potential damage in losses in HD DVD operations. Goldman Sachs has said pulling out would improve Toshiba's profitability between $370 million to $460 million a year.

The reasons behind Blu-ray's triumph over HD DVD are complex, as marketing, management maneuvers and other factors are believed to have played into the shift to Blu-ray's favor that became more decisive during the critical holiday shopping season.

Once the balance starts tilting in favor of one in a format battle, then the domination tends to grow and become final, said Kazuharu Miura, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research in Tokyo.

"The trend became decisive I think this year," he said. "When Warner made its decision, it was basically over."

With movie studios increasingly lining up behind Blu-ray, retailers also began to stock more Blu-ray products.

Friday's decision by Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT, Fortune 500)., the largest U.S. retailer, to sell only Blu-ray DVDs and hardware appeared to deal a final blow to the Toshiba format. Just five days earlier, Netflix Inc. (NFLX) said it will cease carrying rentals in HD DVD.

Several major American retailers had already made similar decisions, including Target Corp. (TGT, Fortune 500) and Blockbuster Inc (BBI, Fortune 500).

Also adding to Blu-ray's momentum was the gradual increase in sales of Sony's PlayStation 3 home video-game console, which also works as a Blu-ray player. Sony has sold 10.5 million PS3 machines worldwide since the machine went on sale late 2006.

HD DVD supporters included Microsoft Corp (MSFT, Fortune 500)., Intel Corp (INTC, Fortune 500). and Japanese electronics maker NEC Corp.

Microsoft's Xbox 360 game machine can play HD DVD movies, but the drive had to be bought separately, and Nishida said about 300,000 people have those.

Worldwide sales of personal computers with HD DVD drives total about 300,000 worldwide, including 140,000 in North America and 130,000 in Europe, he said.

Recently, the Blu-ray disc format has been gaining market share, especially in Japan. A study on fourth quarter sales last year by market researcher BCN Inc. found that by unit volume, Blu-ray made up 96 percent of Japanese sales.

Sony said it did not have numbers on how many Blu-ray players had been sold globally.

Toshiba's stock slipped 0.6% Tuesday to 824 yen after jumping 5.7% Monday amid reports that a decision was imminent. Sony shares climbed 2.2% to 5,010 yen after rising 1% Monday.

Also Tuesday, Toshiba said it plans to spend more than $15.7 billion for two plants in Japan to produce sophisticated chips called NAND flash memory, which are used in portable music players and cell phones. Production there will start in 2010. To top of page
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- impala454   Blu-ray   Dec 4 2007, 02:37 PM
- - Spectatrix   I'll probably get both eventually, but not any...   Dec 4 2007, 02:40 PM
- - Oasis   I have a 360. I guess that has HD shit on it. I do...   Dec 4 2007, 02:43 PM
- - Jessica   wont even think about buying either until the form...   Dec 4 2007, 02:46 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 4 2007, 02:46 PM) wo...   Dec 4 2007, 03:11 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Dec 4 2007, 03:11 PM) ...   Dec 4 2007, 03:26 PM
- - Spectatrix   I think that Blu-Ray is the superior format, but S...   Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM)...   Dec 4 2007, 03:21 PM
- - blaarg   which type did Walmart go with? usually that is t...   Dec 4 2007, 03:26 PM
- - Jessica   its the production companies that pick Like Touch...   Dec 4 2007, 03:34 PM
- - impala454   So I just realized the poll is pretty much retarde...   Dec 4 2007, 04:01 PM
- - 2wolUTT   I'm thinking of getting a PS3 just because it ...   Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM) I...   Dec 5 2007, 09:14 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM) I...   Jan 23 2008, 04:31 PM
- - impala454   The PS3 is actually considered by most of the high...   Dec 5 2007, 11:28 AM
- - Watchman   I don't have one and don't plan on getting...   Dec 5 2007, 11:52 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Watchman @ Dec 5 2007, 11:52 AM) T...   Dec 5 2007, 01:54 PM
- - Jessica   I know blu-ray is supposed to be infinitely better...   Dec 5 2007, 03:08 PM
- - impala454   Well blu-ray & hd-dvd are equal as far as pict...   Dec 5 2007, 08:04 PM
- - Jessica   someone told me blu-ray could hold more info. i gu...   Dec 5 2007, 08:06 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 5 2007, 08:06 PM) so...   Dec 5 2007, 08:27 PM
- - pysex   sony can kiss my ass   Dec 5 2007, 08:17 PM
- - Jessica   ahh ok. well, maybe he was unaware of the newer 51...   Dec 5 2007, 08:41 PM
- - impala454   Yeah I think UMD movies are dead as of last year s...   Dec 6 2007, 12:05 AM
- - Jessica   my brother liked those things.   Dec 6 2007, 12:14 AM
- - zetec   http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-state-of-hd...-dvd-...   Dec 6 2007, 05:23 PM
- - Jessica   skimmed the article... well written.   Dec 6 2007, 07:15 PM
- - impala454   That Onkyo player he mentioned has been scrapped, ...   Dec 6 2007, 10:17 PM
- - impala454   Apparently there's a rumor from high places th...   Dec 7 2007, 11:43 AM
- - zetec   ick.   Dec 7 2007, 09:41 PM
- - 2wolUTT   I still want a ps3. Play some ncaa 08. And like cr...   Dec 7 2007, 10:11 PM
- - zetec   only 1 of those games is on PS3. and the new 40gbs...   Dec 7 2007, 10:38 PM
- - impala454   http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/...tting...   Dec 10 2007, 10:26 AM
- - zetec   good read.   Dec 10 2007, 09:20 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   the polls claim "techsans don't give no ...   Dec 10 2007, 09:24 PM
- - impala454   What is funny is how good that is really. Ignoran...   Dec 10 2007, 10:15 PM
- - impala454   Warner Brothers will go Blu-ray exclusive in May 2...   Jan 4 2008, 03:35 PM
- - impala454   RE: Blu-ray   Jan 4 2008, 05:17 PM
- - Watchman   just because wb is going blu-ray doesn't mean ...   Jan 4 2008, 05:20 PM
- - impala454   Paramount/Dreamworks and Universal are the only tw...   Jan 4 2008, 05:35 PM
- - impala454   Looks like New Line has followed them over as well...   Jan 7 2008, 01:02 AM
- - impala454   And now its being reported that Paramount/Dreamwor...   Jan 8 2008, 12:53 PM
- - Spectatrix   Damn, I didn't expect something like this to b...   Jan 8 2008, 02:32 PM
- - Jessica   fuckin shit. i wanted HD to win   Jan 8 2008, 02:53 PM
- - impala454   Still just a rumor about Paramount, but IMHO it...   Jan 8 2008, 03:21 PM
- - Spectatrix   Paramount denies rumors: http://blog.wired.com/gam...   Jan 8 2008, 06:54 PM
- - impala454   Yeah so did Warner a couple days before their swit...   Jan 9 2008, 09:44 AM
- - pebkac   Apparently, microsoft is also considering dropping...   Jan 9 2008, 11:18 AM
- - impala454   Yeah I read somethin yesterday that mentioned they...   Jan 10 2008, 09:39 AM
- - impala454   It is an offer from Sony, it should have printed a...   Jan 23 2008, 04:45 PM
- - Spectatrix   Any more news about Paramount?   Jan 23 2008, 05:08 PM
- - impala454   Naw, supposedly their out-clause expires Jan 31st....   Jan 24 2008, 10:02 AM
- - TTUAthleticTrainer   I've got over 400 DVDs, not including the TV s...   Jan 24 2008, 10:48 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 10...   Jan 24 2008, 11:12 AM
|- - 2wolUTT   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 10...   Jan 24 2008, 12:34 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Jan 24 2008, 12:34 PM) W...   Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM)...   Jan 24 2008, 01:46 PM
|- - 2wolUTT   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM)...   Jan 24 2008, 04:27 PM
- - Watchman   i think the hd-dvd camp still has a few tricks up ...   Jan 24 2008, 11:00 AM
- - TTUAthleticTrainer   Yeah, my Farscape DVDs were $110 per season.....   Jan 24 2008, 12:38 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 12...   Jan 24 2008, 12:49 PM
- - impala454   Its free for up to 50 DVDs, then a one time fee to...   Jan 24 2008, 04:38 PM
- - impala454   Pretty interesting engadget article on the sales n...   Jan 25 2008, 10:00 AM
- - impala454   Looks like HD-DVD is coming back in sales, but ano...   Feb 11 2008, 10:33 AM
- - Testm0nkey   so when are blu-ray players going to stop being so...   Feb 11 2008, 10:40 AM
- - impala454   Your guess is as good as mine... if HD-DVD drops c...   Feb 11 2008, 10:52 AM
- - zetec   netflix is awesome, but this kinda saddens me.   Feb 12 2008, 12:21 AM
- - impala454   Michael Bay keeps reminding us he's a few frie...   Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM)...   Feb 14 2008, 11:18 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM)...   Feb 15 2008, 09:59 AM
- - impala454   lol, "and the 18 wheeler is like BRAWWW and t...   Feb 14 2008, 11:26 AM
- - impala454   Toshiba to drop HD DVD, sources say http://www.hol...   Feb 15 2008, 08:28 AM
- - Spectatrix   Walmart goes Blu-ray only: http://money.cnn.com/20...   Feb 15 2008, 12:23 PM
- - Oasis   Why the FUCK haven't they released Fletch on B...   Feb 15 2008, 12:36 PM
- - zetec   remastering old flicks for bluray actually has a T...   Feb 15 2008, 02:06 PM
- - Spectatrix   The end is nigh. Toshiba considering dropping HD ...   Feb 18 2008, 10:38 AM
- - impala454   Looks like we'll find out for sure on Tuesday.   Feb 18 2008, 10:45 AM
- - blaarg   I think we've pretty much found out already. W...   Feb 18 2008, 12:40 PM
- - impala454   They're not going to rebound. I'd imagine...   Feb 18 2008, 01:37 PM
- - impala454   I think this is a little indicative of the winner ...   Feb 18 2008, 03:19 PM
- - impala454   nevermind ignore that I'm dumb   Feb 18 2008, 03:22 PM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   Toshiba finally throws in their gloves.... http:/...   Feb 19 2008, 07:07 AM
- - jonathan83   aw sad.   Feb 19 2008, 07:56 AM
- - Spectatrix   Well, it's over. About damn time. Looks like...   Feb 19 2008, 09:03 AM
- - impala454   Hate to see Sony win, but not a big deal to me as ...   Feb 19 2008, 09:16 AM
- - Dogmeat   I wonder what this means fo Xbox360 .. I have a T...   Feb 19 2008, 08:36 PM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   Now im just gonna wait for a substantial price dro...   Feb 19 2008, 08:59 PM
- - zetec   rumor has it microsoft is shopping a bluray drive ...   Feb 20 2008, 03:16 PM
- - impala454   They announced a while back that they'd be ope...   Feb 20 2008, 03:26 PM
- - impala454   Haha doh... http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/21/h...   Feb 21 2008, 09:30 AM
- - pebkac   That's awesome.   Feb 21 2008, 09:59 AM
- - impala454   Here's a nice, cheap blu-ray player for those ...   Feb 26 2008, 12:37 PM
- - Spectatrix   That costs twice as much as my car!   Feb 26 2008, 12:59 PM
- - moebary   that's 17/26ths the price of my car! 17/3...   Feb 26 2008, 01:40 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 26 2008, 12:59 PM...   Feb 26 2008, 01:40 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 26 2008, 01:40 PM)...   Feb 26 2008, 02:45 PM
- - impala454   Just sayin... you could prob have lots of dramatic...   Feb 26 2008, 03:25 PM
- - Spectatrix   Haha, probably!   Feb 26 2008, 04:31 PM
- - impala454   pretty funny that the best selling high def disc t...   Feb 29 2008, 03:55 PM
- - Spectatrix   Well if you have a player and already have a bunch...   Feb 29 2008, 04:04 PM
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