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Dogmeat
post Feb 18 2008, 08:37 AM
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http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jonah_gol...2/17/73406.html

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The Cult of Liberal Fascism

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:59 PM

By: Phil Brennan, Newsmax.com Article Font Size




“Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning”


Author: Jonah Goldberg


Publisher: Doubleday



Fascism, rather than being a right-wing phenomenon as liberals are so fond of claiming, is what underlies today’s liberal agenda.


And it is borrowed lock, stock, and barrel from Benito Mussolini’s fascist state and Hitler’s National Socialism, says Jonah Goldberg author of “Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.” [Editor’s Note: Get Jonah Goldberg’s book. Go here now.]


As the publishers note, the Nazis were socialists who, unlike conservatives, believed in free healthcare and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth, spent vast sums on education, drove religion from the public square replacing it with a new form of paganism, and inserted the power of government into every nook and cranny of daily life.


Goldberg feels that liberals are aligned against the tragic “wrong turn” society allegedly took when it rejected the beliefs that social and gender roles are not fixed; that tradition, religion and natural law have no binding power or authority over the individual’s will to power.


He writes that "nowhere is the idea of the Wrong Turn more starkly expressed in both National Socialist and temporary thought than in environmentalism … Man, liberals insist, has lost his harmony with nature, his way of life is inauthentic, corrupting, unnatural.”



Liberals demand the world’s belief in manmade global warming, despite many learned scientists’ contrary opinions. Environmentalism’s most fascist ingredient, Goldberg writes, is that “it is an invaluable ‘crisis mechanism.’ Al Gore constantly insists that global warming is the defining crisis of our time. Skeptics [of bandwagon liberal theories] are labeled traitors, Holocaust deniers, tools of ‘carbon interests.’”


He recalls how Gore appeared before Congress last year and told them, “the world has a fever” and explained that when your baby has a fever, you “take action. You do what the doctor says.” No time to debate, no room for argument. We must go beyond politics. In practical terms, this means we must surrender to the global nanny state and create the sort of “economic dictatorship” progressives yearn for.


Gore’s catastrophic global warming alarmism provides the perfect platform for the creation of a global authority that regulates just about every human activity, a prescription for an absolute global dictatorship.


In Nazi Germany, crises were dealt with militantly. Soft measures were not the way to deal with immediate problems, such as what the Nazis defined as the “Jewish question.”


According to Goldberg “The old critique of the Hebrew disease metastasized into an indictment of what could be called the human disease” — one of environmentalism’s chief bugaboos — overpopulation.



One of the defining characteristics of both Italian Fascism and Nazism was their need to use coercion to impose their political and philosophical agendas. It is no accident that the progressive programs advanced by today’s liberals all employ coercion of one form or another to implement them.


Above all, it is government that sits in the catbird seat for liberals, fascists, communists, and Nazis. Government is the final authority over everything from the economy, education, the practice of religion, and every form of human activity that can be subjected to centralized authority. Human rights come not from God, but from the state.


In a close examination of Hillary Clinton’s background Goldberg defines her as “a representative figure, the leading member of a generational cohort of elite liberals who [unconsciously of course] brought fascist themes into mainstream liberalism. Specifically, she and her cohort embody the maternal side of fascism which is one reason why it is not more clearly recognized as such.”


Excellent article.

I'm sure most of you will start clamoring on ... "B-b-b-b-but...! The neocons are selling us a fake war on terror! They're fascists too!"

Hmm.

So we have one party telling us that a bunch of psycho relegious nuts that we see on TV every single day and know for a fact are blowing the shit out of innocent people are real and we need to deal with them, and the other party denying this completley to drum up votes from morons.

Then, on the other side, we have one party preaching global doom and catastrophe if we don't surrender what's left of the US economy to foreign interests (wow great foreign policy there no wonder the rest of the world likes democrats) because somone had a thought that the planet was getting warmer.

Wow.


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post Feb 18 2008, 05:29 PM
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This thread is funny! Somebody makes an argument then Dogmeat just makes another overbroad, misrepresenting generalization that totally misses the point.


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post Feb 18 2008, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 18 2008, 06:29 PM) *
This thread is funny! Somebody makes an argument then Dogmeat just makes another overbroad, misrepresenting generalization that totally misses the point.


No. The liberals are the true conspirators who wish to sell out society.

Not the conservatives.


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post Feb 18 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 18 2008, 08:04 PM) *
No. The liberals are the true conspirators who wish to sell out society.

Not the conservatives.

I'd say both sides have their demons.


But who wants logic in a Techsans thread, amirite?


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post Feb 18 2008, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 18 2008, 09:34 PM) *
I'd say both sides have their demons.
But who wants logic in a Techsans thread, amirite?


I, of all people on here, CONSTANTLY post logical posts.

The LIBERALS on here then put my posts into their propaghanda machine and skew my words for their own evil purposes.

However, I don't fall for this.

I simply use reverse psychology on them by making ILLOGICAL posts.

Therefore, since they put my posts into their propaghanda truth-skewing machine, they actually come out making perfect sense.

Dogmeat for President!


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post Feb 18 2008, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 18 2008, 09:09 PM) *
I, of all people on here, CONSTANTLY post logical posts.

The LIBERALS on here then put my posts into their propaghanda machine and skew my words for their own evil purposes.

However, I don't fall for this.

I simply use reverse psychology on them by making ILLOGICAL posts.

Therefore, since they put my posts into their propaghanda truth-skewing machine, they actually come out making perfect sense.

Dogmeat for President!


*Ahem*

"cumsluts sextits"


I rest my case.


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post Feb 19 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 18 2008, 10:21 PM) *
*Ahem*

"cumsluts sextits"
I rest my case.


EXACTLY! See?

YOU thought I was a REPUBLICAN!!!!

HOW WRONG YOU WERE EH?

I'm an instrument of the sinful LIBERALS! BWAHAHAHAH!


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- Dogmeat   Liberals and Fascism   Feb 18 2008, 08:37 AM
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