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Hartmann
post Feb 12 2008, 08:35 AM
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I was at IAH yesterday and had a meeting at the President's Club, Continental's club for people who pay for it, and noticed a man outside on the floor, using the club's "free" WiFi connection.

The wireless connection inside of the club is fairly good but to access it outside of the club you have to be sitting right by the door.

What are your thoughts on doing this? I think it's somewhat sleazy as I pay a decent amount of money to access the club and use its services, including the WiFi, why should someone be allowed to essentially leech the signal?

I've made my case to Continental to add password protection to the network but they still have not. I know that most people say "well the network is open so it's fair game" but I see that as a cop out, as you wouldn't take something from a neighbor's yard because it was "out in the open".

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post Feb 12 2008, 10:15 AM
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I am sorry, but if you leave your network open, whether you're a business or an individual you're just looking to be leeched off of.


If you owned a store, would you just leave it unattended and expect to MAKE MONEY? No, you would be robbed.
It's just responsibility...you can't control other peoples' actions, so you control what factors YOU CAN.


I don't want my neighbors using my connection that I pay for, therefore I lock my shit down.

As for Continental's response...it's not that much more work to just type in a password.


EDIT: on a somewhat similar note, I hear that Starbucks is ditching T-mobile's WiFi services and going with AT&T. I really like this, because I have AT&T DSL Pro, which means I get to use AT&T Wifi (in places like McDonalds and Barnes & Noble) for free, so this will expand where I can use free WiFi at. Cus we know how damn ubiquitous Starbucks is.
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post Feb 12 2008, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (theIncredibleEdibleDuane @ Feb 12 2008, 10:15 AM) *
EDIT: on a somewhat similar note, I hear that Starbucks is ditching T-mobile's WiFi services and going with AT&T. I really like this, because I have AT&T DSL Pro, which means I get to use AT&T Wifi (in places like McDonalds and Barnes & Noble) for free, so this will expand where I can use free WiFi at. Cus we know how damn ubiquitous Starbucks is.


To use the AT&T wireless you have to have a Starbucks credit/debit card, and you get the first two hours free.

I don't know if it is two hours a day or two hours per sitting (because what would keep you from getting up going across the street and coming back).

Here is an article I read:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/starbucks_announces_free_wifi


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post Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Feb 12 2008, 11:10 AM) *
To use the AT&T wireless you have to have a Starbucks credit/debit card, and you get the first two hours free.

I don't know if it is two hours a day or two hours per sitting (because what would keep you from getting up going across the street and coming back).

Here is an article I read:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/starbucks_announces_free_wifi

If you read further in that article, you'll see that it's free to AT&T internet customers.


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post Feb 12 2008, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM) *
If you read further in that article, you'll see that it's free to AT&T internet customers.


they added that since I read it last...


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- Hartmann   The ethics/legality of leeching WiFi   Feb 12 2008, 08:35 AM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   Personally, I think if it's open, it's fai...   Feb 12 2008, 08:42 AM
- - cmac   yea. open = fair game. i keep my network open a...   Feb 12 2008, 09:23 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 12 2008, 08:35 AM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 09:26 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 12 2008, 09:26 AM)...   Feb 12 2008, 09:31 AM
- - pebkac   Agreed. In a semi-unrelated note, did anyone see ...   Feb 12 2008, 09:28 AM
- - Spectatrix   I don't think it's ethical to be stealing ...   Feb 12 2008, 09:30 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 12 2008, 09:30 AM...   Feb 12 2008, 09:38 AM
- - cmac   i wish you could use the iPhone bluetooth to conne...   Feb 12 2008, 09:39 AM
- - Jessica   I see both sides. When I lived in Austin, I didn...   Feb 12 2008, 10:15 AM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   I am sorry, but if you leave your network open, wh...   Feb 12 2008, 10:15 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (theIncredibleEdibleDuane @ Feb 12 2008...   Feb 12 2008, 10:36 AM
||- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 12 2008, 10:36 AM...   Feb 12 2008, 10:43 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (theIncredibleEdibleDuane @ Feb 12 2008...   Feb 12 2008, 10:57 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (theIncredibleEdibleDuane @ Feb 12 2008...   Feb 12 2008, 11:10 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (blaarg @ Feb 12 2008, 11:10 AM) To...   Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM...   Feb 12 2008, 11:18 AM
|- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM...   Feb 12 2008, 11:20 AM
- - Epic   i'd just ask someone working in the "capt...   Feb 12 2008, 10:42 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Epic @ Feb 12 2008, 10:42 AM) i...   Feb 12 2008, 10:54 AM
|- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 12 2008, 10:54 AM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 10:55 AM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   Well, with free Wifi becoming more ubiquitous....t...   Feb 12 2008, 10:58 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (theIncredibleEdibleDuane @ Feb 12 2008...   Feb 12 2008, 11:08 AM
- - Spectatrix   Well I refuse to get DSL from AT&T after the h...   Feb 12 2008, 11:48 AM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   I havent had a bad experience with them....I just ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:05 PM
- - Spectatrix   My main bad experience with SBC was from when we m...   Feb 12 2008, 12:18 PM
- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   I just like paying 24.99 a month for internet....n...   Feb 12 2008, 12:30 PM
- - cmac   how much does leaching really slow bandwidth?   Feb 12 2008, 12:33 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Feb 12 2008, 12:33 PM) how ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:40 PM
|- - theIncredibleEdibleDuane   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 12 2008, 12:40 PM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:42 PM
- - Testm0nkey   Like everyones said if you dont set up a password ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:54 PM
- - pebkac   If Continental isn't doing anything about the ...   Feb 12 2008, 03:40 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 12 2008, 03:40 PM) If...   Feb 12 2008, 03:57 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Feb 12 2008, 03:57 ...   Feb 12 2008, 04:01 PM
- - Jessica   only cuz youll never have a wife, homo   Feb 12 2008, 05:48 PM
- - schwab   im leeching internet right now, mainly because im ...   Feb 12 2008, 07:54 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (schwab @ Feb 12 2008, 07:54 PM) im...   Feb 13 2008, 02:37 AM
|- - schwab   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:37 AM)...   Feb 13 2008, 07:30 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (schwab @ Feb 13 2008, 07:30 AM) Th...   Feb 13 2008, 09:33 AM
- - James   Solution: Line the interior walls of the club w...   Feb 13 2008, 06:26 AM
- - Spectatrix   You are making use of their property (router, mode...   Feb 13 2008, 08:54 AM
- - Spectatrix   Haha, beat ya to it!   Feb 13 2008, 09:38 AM


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