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Hartmann
post Feb 8 2008, 01:22 PM
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I was reading this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6190080.stm and started thinking... The west and its culture is becoming enveloped by the Islamic culture.

Anyone who has been to the Netherlands and/or Belgium knows how quickly those states are becoming mini-Islamic Republics, so the question has to be asked, is this long term? How quickly will it happen?

Personally I think France will be the last to fall into this as they have pretty much disallowed all personal freedom that goes against the thinking that the government is right. They've shut down Christian Monasteries because they were teaching that the government suppresses (how ironic).

The big places I think will see a huge Islamic change are southern Spain, western Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, and Britain.

Thoughts?

I didn't have a lot of thought put into the post, I just pondered that question and decided to put it out here.


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Testm0nkey
post Feb 8 2008, 05:03 PM
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can you cite your sources for the france info because thats not whats happening at all.

theres more and more uproar AGAINST sarkozy (good thing). far from "outlawing" free speech and speaking out against your government. france has never had a problem doing that

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A passage in Sarkozy's book expresses his argument: "I am convinced that religious spirit and practice can contribute to appeasing and regulating a free society [...] One would be wrong to limit the church's role to spirituality."


one of the big things the french hate about the president is he is TOO religious and too supportive of religions. france has been historically hugely secular

his last big speil that i know of was this january where he was blowing on and on about how france cant be without religion and how republican morality is based on Christianity.




edit: source from a CHRISTIAN news media
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The French Reconnection
Europe's most secular country rediscovers its Christian roots.
by Agnieszka Tennant | posted 2/08/2008 05:47PM

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from christianity today.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/march/20.28.html


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