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Dogmeat
post Feb 3 2008, 11:53 AM
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http://www.newsmax.com/politics/campaign_r...2/03/69711.html

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WASHINGTON -- Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.


So the truth [that everyone has already known] comes out!

Prime example of her and her socialist agenda.

Excuse me bitch, garnish my wages to pay for health care for a crack addicts? I don't think so.


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impala454
post Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM
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you didn't see a doctor for free, trust me.
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post Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM) *
you didn't see a doctor for free, trust me.
there is a bill from the hospital, and a bill from the doctor... if you had something special done. A lot of time, ER docs are included in the ER fees... because they work for the ER. When I went to the hospital in August, I got a $4000 bill from the hospital and $3000 bill for the MRI machine use or something stupid like that

You don't get it because you have lived in a richer area all the time. A HUGE issue in El Paso is our county hospital Thomason Hospital. They are never able to meet budget and always are having to ask for the county to raise taxes to get the hospital out of debt. Why? because a majority of El Pasoans are not insured, and we have a high level of people living below the poverty line.
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post Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM) *
there is a bill from the hospital, and a bill from the doctor... if you had something special done. A lot of time, ER docs are included in the ER fees... because they work for the ER. When I went to the hospital in August, I got a $4000 bill from the hospital and $3000 bill for the MRI machine use or something stupid like that

You don't get it because you have lived in a richer area all the time. A HUGE issue in El Paso is our county hospital Thomason Hospital. They are never able to meet budget and always are having to ask for the county to raise taxes to get the hospital out of debt. Why? because a majority of El Pasoans are not insured, and we have a high level of people living below the poverty line.

So how would communist healthcare change ANY of this?
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post Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM) *
So how would communist healthcare change ANY of this?
If by Communist healthcare you mean forcing EVERYONE to pay for health insurance, not just those that actually realize its a necessity... then a lot
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post Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM) *
If by Communist healthcare you mean forcing EVERYONE to pay for health insurance, not just those that actually realize its a necessity... then a lot


We're talking about a fundamental principle our society is founded on. You're only responsible for yourself. Any responsibilities you have which effect others are regulated by the government. Which is why you're required to have auto liability insurance, mortgage insurance when your equity is below X%, flood insurance when you live in a flood plain, etc. These are all factors that effect not just you, but others. Your health and how you maintain it is your choice. If you don't choose to get health insurance, it has zero effect on me. If I don't have auto liability insurance though, and run someone over and injure them, it effects them greatly. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes, people should have health insurance, but should and required to is a very fine line I'd rather the government not cross.

I don't need Hillary to try to be my mommy and make me go to the doctor if I don't want to, or because I'm too stupid not to, or because I'll pay $150/mo for cable/internet but won't pay $60/mo for health insurance. I also don't need Hillary choosing which doctor I go to, or implementing policy that makes it take 10x longer for me to get healthcare if I need it.
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- Dogmeat   EXCUSE ME???? WTF HILLARY?!?!?!?   Feb 3 2008, 11:53 AM
- - Spectatrix   That is pretty fucking socialist. I am not a fan ...   Feb 3 2008, 07:45 PM
- - Testm0nkey   so then people will be motivated to pay into their...   Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 10:54 PM)...   Feb 3 2008, 09:55 PM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 3 2008, 09:55 PM) I ...   Feb 3 2008, 11:42 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM
- - Hartmann   Robin Hillary!   Feb 3 2008, 10:15 PM
- - 2wolUTT   I drink your milkshake!   Feb 3 2008, 11:16 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i kinda agree, but only after it's put in pers...   Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 P...   Feb 3 2008, 11:53 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 3 2008, 11:53 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 02:11 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 07:41 AM
- - Jessica   Umm.... ok. What do you think happens when someone...   Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM) Um...   Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM) N...   Feb 4 2008, 08:47 AM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM) N...   Feb 4 2008, 10:09 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM) It...   Feb 4 2008, 08:49 AM
- - Watchman   if she pulled that shit she'd be assassinated ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:00 AM
- - impala454   County Hospitals do not receive some check for unp...   Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:27 PM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 12:27 PM) ok...   Feb 4 2008, 12:38 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:52 PM
- - impala454   uh... how do you pay for a deduction?   Feb 4 2008, 12:36 PM
- - Jessica   Do you not understand a system of debits and credi...   Feb 4 2008, 12:41 PM
- - pysex   america was not meant to be a socialist state... ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:53 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 12:52 PM) The...   Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM) ......   Feb 4 2008, 01:09 PM
- - pysex   post++ just to let everyone know if we continue...   Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM
- - impala454   I'm not sure about your backing for that claim...   Feb 4 2008, 01:08 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 01:08 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:13 PM
- - impala454   you didn't see a doctor for free, trust me.   Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM) th...   Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 03:08 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM) If...   Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM
- - The Fanatic   instead of forcing everyone to pay into a health c...   Feb 4 2008, 01:53 PM
- - Testm0nkey   people were complaining about illegal immigrants g...   Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 04:58 PM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 4 2008, 04:58 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 05:04 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM) Wou...   Feb 5 2008, 10:07 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM) Wou...   Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM
||- - pebkac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM)...   Feb 5 2008, 10:37 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 5 2008, 09:58 AM
- - Jessica   ya'll need to quit watching the Playboy Channe...   Feb 4 2008, 05:06 PM
- - The Fanatic   QUOTE theres nothing worse then someone who doesnt...   Feb 4 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 4 2008, 05:07 PM...   Feb 4 2008, 05:12 PM
- - The Fanatic   Not me, anything could happen even if you are heal...   Feb 4 2008, 05:15 PM
- - Jessica   exactly   Feb 4 2008, 05:43 PM
- - Spectatrix   Hrm, I stand corrected.   Feb 5 2008, 11:03 AM
- - impala454   So what about Winston's or Marlboro's firs...   Feb 5 2008, 12:05 PM
- - The Fanatic   You are half right chuck. It only becomes a first ...   Feb 5 2008, 04:41 PM
- - impala454   No I was fully right . The FCC regulates a lot mo...   Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM) Th...   Feb 5 2008, 05:44 PM
- - impala454   Speaking of the topic, that stupid cunt is coming ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Dogmeat   all I know is, the last thing in the world that ne...   Feb 5 2008, 05:46 PM


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