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Dogmeat
post Feb 3 2008, 11:53 AM
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http://www.newsmax.com/politics/campaign_r...2/03/69711.html

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WASHINGTON -- Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.


So the truth [that everyone has already known] comes out!

Prime example of her and her socialist agenda.

Excuse me bitch, garnish my wages to pay for health care for a crack addicts? I don't think so.


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impala454
post Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 12:52 PM) *
They don't even get that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMTALA#Cost_p...es_on_hospitals

Since the hospitals are usually funded by some government entity, this means higher taxes for that government entity. Either that or they're paid for in the form of passing those costs on to people who do have insurance or assistance from a government program.

Either way you look at it, it results in higher healthcare costs. And yes, if you do have insurance, you are paying for these people whether you like it or not. Damn socialized medicine.


Your link is about healthcare providers. I.e. doctors & their practices. Not hospitals.

If you want to look at it that way, then you can say that someone who gets in a wreck costs me tax dollars. You can say that someone who throws gum out the window costs me tax dollars.

But any entity that takes tax deductions does not directly result in my taxes increasing. Yes large portions of medical bills go unpaid, but those unpaid bills are tax deductible. Nowhere in your link does it say otherwise.
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post Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM) *
Your link is about healthcare providers. I.e. doctors & their practices. Not hospitals.

If you want to look at it that way, then you can say that someone who gets in a wreck costs me tax dollars. You can say that someone who throws gum out the window costs me tax dollars.

But any entity that takes tax deductions does not directly result in my taxes increasing. Yes large portions of medical bills go unpaid, but those unpaid bills are tax deductible. Nowhere in your link does it say otherwise.


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Most hospitals are not-for-profit groups of some kind. This means they're tax exempt to begin with.

QUOTE (pysex @ Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM) *
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just to let everyone know if we continue moving towards this socialist agenda and thinking everyone deserves everything...
then we will no longer be America
they are already debating over some pretty major changes in our government....

has anyone heard of the "North American Union"?

they want to create a standardized currency for Canada, the U.S., and Mexico....and create free and open trade between all 3 countries...

it would be like the EU but worse....because its fucking mexico
That is worthy of a revolution. And don't think it won't happen. There are plenty of level headed sane Americans that would revolt against these assfucks who think Juanita and Juan deserve just as much as I do.


Nice post. All fear-mongering and no logic.


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- Dogmeat   EXCUSE ME???? WTF HILLARY?!?!?!?   Feb 3 2008, 11:53 AM
- - Spectatrix   That is pretty fucking socialist. I am not a fan ...   Feb 3 2008, 07:45 PM
- - Testm0nkey   so then people will be motivated to pay into their...   Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 10:54 PM)...   Feb 3 2008, 09:55 PM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 3 2008, 09:55 PM) I ...   Feb 3 2008, 11:42 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM
- - Hartmann   Robin Hillary!   Feb 3 2008, 10:15 PM
- - 2wolUTT   I drink your milkshake!   Feb 3 2008, 11:16 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i kinda agree, but only after it's put in pers...   Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 P...   Feb 3 2008, 11:53 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 3 2008, 11:53 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 02:11 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 07:41 AM
- - Jessica   Umm.... ok. What do you think happens when someone...   Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM) Um...   Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM) N...   Feb 4 2008, 08:47 AM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 4 2008, 08:34 AM) N...   Feb 4 2008, 10:09 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 07:57 AM) It...   Feb 4 2008, 08:49 AM
- - Watchman   if she pulled that shit she'd be assassinated ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:00 AM
- - impala454   County Hospitals do not receive some check for unp...   Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:27 PM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 12:27 PM) ok...   Feb 4 2008, 12:38 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:22 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:52 PM
- - impala454   uh... how do you pay for a deduction?   Feb 4 2008, 12:36 PM
- - Jessica   Do you not understand a system of debits and credi...   Feb 4 2008, 12:41 PM
- - pysex   america was not meant to be a socialist state... ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:53 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 12:52 PM) The...   Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:58 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM) ......   Feb 4 2008, 01:09 PM
- - pysex   post++ just to let everyone know if we continue...   Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM
- - impala454   I'm not sure about your backing for that claim...   Feb 4 2008, 01:08 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 01:08 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:13 PM
- - impala454   you didn't see a doctor for free, trust me.   Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 01:15 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 4 2008, 01:22 PM) th...   Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 03:08 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:34 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 5 2008, 03:24 AM) If...   Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM
- - The Fanatic   instead of forcing everyone to pay into a health c...   Feb 4 2008, 01:53 PM
- - Testm0nkey   people were complaining about illegal immigrants g...   Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 04:58 PM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 4 2008, 04:58 PM) ...   Feb 4 2008, 05:04 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM) Wou...   Feb 5 2008, 10:07 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 5 2008, 09:50 AM) Wou...   Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM
||- - pebkac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 5 2008, 10:24 AM)...   Feb 5 2008, 10:37 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 4 2008, 04:36 PM)...   Feb 5 2008, 09:58 AM
- - Jessica   ya'll need to quit watching the Playboy Channe...   Feb 4 2008, 05:06 PM
- - The Fanatic   QUOTE theres nothing worse then someone who doesnt...   Feb 4 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 4 2008, 05:07 PM...   Feb 4 2008, 05:12 PM
- - The Fanatic   Not me, anything could happen even if you are heal...   Feb 4 2008, 05:15 PM
- - Jessica   exactly   Feb 4 2008, 05:43 PM
- - Spectatrix   Hrm, I stand corrected.   Feb 5 2008, 11:03 AM
- - impala454   So what about Winston's or Marlboro's firs...   Feb 5 2008, 12:05 PM
- - The Fanatic   You are half right chuck. It only becomes a first ...   Feb 5 2008, 04:41 PM
- - impala454   No I was fully right . The FCC regulates a lot mo...   Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 5 2008, 05:37 PM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM) Th...   Feb 5 2008, 05:44 PM
- - impala454   Speaking of the topic, that stupid cunt is coming ...   Feb 5 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Dogmeat   all I know is, the last thing in the world that ne...   Feb 5 2008, 05:46 PM


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