State of the Union Options

[impala454]

Is tonight at 8pm. All you Bush haters get your DVRs ready so you can slice up every frame and make some funny youtube videos!

[impala454]

I didn't say "fail the education system". I said you're never gonna un-ghetto the ghetto. Do you think if you throw billions to some bottom barrel schools it's going to make the students want to learn? Is it going to improve their neighborhoods and give these kids some kind of incentive to better themselves and look forward to college?

It's the typical democrat plan to throw more money into the government. Tax me more and give it to a school so they can buy a few new laptops that nobody cares about. School systems have such great track records for spending don't they? I welcome any plan that puts that money back in the taxpayer's hands so they can have the opportunity to send their kids somewhere else. Hell if nothing else it will give the schools an incentive to improve the education they provide so they can keep their jobs.

It's not an on/off switch. You can less-ghetto the ghetto.

(I think we should do more of this making up words in NPR)

So what do you do to less-ghetto the ghetto then? Give money to the local schools? Yeah that'll fix up the neighborhood, houses, get the poor lazy people jobs, etc etc.

[Testm0nkey]

I didn't say "fail the education system". I said you're never gonna un-ghetto the ghetto. Do you think if you throw billions to some bottom barrel schools it's going to make the students want to learn? Is it going to improve their neighborhoods and give these kids some kind of incentive to better themselves and look forward to college?

yes its actually been shown to do that and doesnt cost billions

[impala454]

yes its actually been shown to do that and doesnt cost billions

Yeah like the Robin Hood act worked so well too right? Money does not buy ambition.

[pebkac]

Yeah like the Robin Hood act worked so well too right? Money does not buy ambition.

Say it with me... "self fulfilling prophecy." Which do you think is going to get better teachers... a school in a rich area that pays well or a school in a poor area that pays terribly? The underpaid and overworked teachers that work in these schools have the mentality that the kids are nothing and can't succeed at anything.

Better paid and better qualified teachers are less likely to have this mentality.

So yes, when well spent, money can buy ambition in terms of education.

[Hartmann]

So yes, when well spent, money can buy ambition in terms of education.

I don't think that's ambition though. I think it's "not sucking at your job because you're bored".