 Europe to plant first flower on the moon, Mooninites rejoice; Earthlings doomed. |
| Europe to plant first flower on the moon, Mooninites rejoice; Earthlings doomed. |
 Apr 13 2006, 06:30 AM
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Apr 13 2006, 06:47 AM
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Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM
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hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't realize plants could live in a vacuum
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Apr 13 2006, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM) hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't realize plants could live in a vacuum flowers suck? --------------------  |
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Apr 13 2006, 11:00 AM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (Jwilly @ Apr 13 2006, 10:38 AM) flowers suck? flowers are pussies -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Apr 13 2006, 12:12 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 09:45 AM) hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't realize plants could live in a vacuum I didnt know the moon was a vacuum? I mean, I dont know much about astronomy but isnt a vacuum where there is a complete absence of air. There is air on the moon.... and gravity. Just not much of it. |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:18 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:12 PM) I didnt know the moon was a vacuum? I mean, I dont know much about astronomy but isnt a vacuum where there is a complete absence of air. There is air on the moon.... and gravity. Just not much of it. there's no air on the moon |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:48 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 01:18 PM) there's no air on the moon nevermind. apparently scientists think there are liquids but no air. This post has been edited by Jessica: Apr 13 2006, 12:50 PM |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:48 PM) are you sure about that? or are you saying there is no oxygen on the moon? air doesnt equal oxygen. Im pretty sure there is air on the moon. No, Impala was correct. The moon is too small (too little gravity) for it to hold an atmosphere. There *is*, however, a small carbon dioxide-based atmosphere on Mars. -------------------- |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:51 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 13 2006, 01:51 PM) No, Impala was correct. The moon is too small (too little gravity) for it to hold an atmosphere. There *is*, however, a small carbon dioxide-based atmosphere on Mars. yup. i got it. i edited my post right before you posted |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:53 PM
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 POTATO OLES Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Newark, NJ Member No.: 17 |
There is no oxygen in the moon's atmosphere but there are other gases. The total atmosphere on the moon though is very small compared to the Earth's atmosphere.
QUOTE This is also the phase when lunar soil would receive its first gift from the Amsterdam tulip trade, perhaps planted inside a plastic biosphere with carbon dioxide on tap. So it wouldn't actually be in the moon's atmosphere. -------------------- death to false dudes
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Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I was thinking that since the earth's atmosphere is so big and the moon orbits the earth, that maybe the moon has some of the earth's atmosphere. Some sites are saying that there is no air on the moon, though. I dont know shit about astronomy though.
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Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (ratm @ Apr 13 2006, 12:53 PM) So it wouldn't actually be in the moon's atmosphere. Hush, you and your logic! 
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Apr 13 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM) I was thinking that since the earth's atmosphere is so big and the moon orbits the earth, that maybe the moon has some of the earth's atmosphere. Some sites are saying that there is no air on the moon, though. I dont know shit about astronomy though. The Earth's atmosphere is effectively only 100 km thick (~62 miles). The moon is 384 km from Earth... so no, it doesn't share atmosphere with Earth. Any atmosphere the moon has is insignificant when considering things like putting plants up there. -------------------- |
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Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
so then is there air or not? I want impala to be wrong just cuz it would be funny. If there is no air, im going to launch a mission to put a jar of air on the moon.
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Apr 13 2006, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM) so then is there air or not? I want impala to be wrong just cuz it would be funny. If there is no air, im going to launch a mission to put a jar of air on the moon. Well, according to Wikipedia: QUOTE The Moon has a relatively insignificant and tenuous atmosphere. One source of this atmosphere is outgassing  the release of gases, for instance radon, which originate deep within the Moon's interior. Another important source of gases is the solar wind, which is briefly captured by the Moon's gravity.
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Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
so then there is. I shouldnt have second guessed myself. I knew solar wind was a factor on this end of the solar system.
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Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 13 2006, 01:04 PM) Well, according to Wikipedia: And of course, everything on wikipedia is dead accurate. 
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Apr 13 2006, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM) so then is there air or not? I want impala to be wrong just cuz it would be funny. If there is no air, im going to launch a mission to put a jar of air on the moon. Then you can safely say that yes, there is air on the moon, then people can be like OMG REALLY and go to the moon and instantly have all of their capillaries burst upon exiting the spaceship |
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Apr 13 2006, 01:09 PM
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So our moon is flatulent? Could it be from all the cheese?
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Apr 13 2006, 01:10 PM
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POTATO OLES Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Newark, NJ Member No.: 17 |
I'm reading a book by Carl Sagan and it says this "Our Moon, for example, has at its surface less than one million millionth the atmospheric pressure on Earth." So its really small.
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Apr 13 2006, 02:09 PM
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shit, get teh biomorphic fungi research from MOO2, then you can plant on the moon!
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Apr 13 2006, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Jyan @ Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM) And of course, everything on wikipedia is dead accurate. No, it's not. But I think "insignificant and tenuous" is probably a good description for the moon's atmosphere. -------------------- |
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Apr 13 2006, 02:25 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (chook @ Apr 13 2006, 02:09 PM) shit, get teh biomorphic fungi research from MOO2, then you can plant on the moon! Psilons FTW! -------------------- |
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Apr 13 2006, 02:28 PM
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'air' is a term we have given to what we breathe mainly nitrogen and oxygen. the 'air' on the moon is completely different in so much as it is no longer what we call 'air'. its a different mixture of gasses that exist in what little atmosphere the moon has do to gravity and all that shiiiiiiiiiit
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Apr 13 2006, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (Seussninja @ Apr 13 2006, 01:08 PM) Then you can safely say that yes, there is air on the moon, then people can be like OMG REALLY and go to the moon and instantly have all of their capillaries burst upon exiting the spaceship seriously, i wanna see someone explode 
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Apr 14 2006, 12:01 AM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
lets send prisoners to the moon, and remove their space suits to see how long they survive.
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Apr 14 2006, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:12 PM) I didnt know the moon was a vacuum? I mean, I dont know much about astronomy but isnt a vacuum where there is a complete absence of air. There is air on the moon.... and gravity. Just not much of it. oh....my....god. --------------------  A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Apr 14 2006, 01:01 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 14 2006, 01:59 AM) oh....my....god. hey! dont use god's name in vain, god damnit |
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Apr 14 2006, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 14 2006, 01:01 AM) hey! dont use god's name in vain, god damnit hey, what you said was cute. you should do some reading on the subject before posting. might i recommend 
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Apr 14 2006, 01:12 AM
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The Transient Aggie Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 21 |
but back on topic: basically, europe wants to go to the moon, but cant logistically put humans up there...so they are sending plants and spiders?
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Apr 14 2006, 01:24 AM
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The Transient Aggie Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 21 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM) hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't realize plants could live in a vacuum Well, all plants really need to survive is carbon dioxide, sunlight, water, and nutrients, so if you built a greenhouse (an airtight container to keep the CO2 from floating off into space), it's possible. The plants they were talking about said that they "bring their own nutrients with them" whatever the hell that means. It's interesting because plants both consume carbon dioxide and produce it (along with oxygen) so it could be self-sustaining (like the terrarium you built in elementary school). Why it is worth building a terrarium on the moon when you can just use a 2 liter coke bottle? You got me. So Europe can say they did something in space before America? It would be interesting to see how the plants grow with 1/6th the gravity, but thats pretty much it. The only real problem i see is from the ambient temperature of the moon which fluxuates between -170 and 120C, which would obviously freeze/boil any water the plant would need to stay alive, so they would have to build a temperature controlled greenhouse for the plants (which you'd think would be difficult without manned mission) , or come up with a similar chemical gel with a higher boiling point and a lower freezing point that would allow the plant to photosynthesize. In either case, I think they already have this part figured out. They wouldn't be investing millions of dollars to research astrophysics and develop technology if they didnt think the entire basis for the mission was possible. -------------------- A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Apr 14 2006, 01:36 AM
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You could plant something, but it would die. There is no atmosphere (it needs carbon dioxide) and no water. The sunlight would burn it during the lunar day, and in the nighttime it would freeze. I don't know if the soil would provide the nutrients that it would need, because it is just rock dust; there are no organic components that earth plants need to fix nitrogen, and so on. Life on earth is very special and very precious!
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Apr 14 2006, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 14 2006, 01:06 AM) hey, what you said was cute. you should do some reading on the subject before posting. might i recommend priceless -------------------- |
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