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post Apr 6 2006, 07:18 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190792,00.html

if you're a stripper that does a "private party" for a fucking team of drunk college men, I don't fucking feel sorry one bit for you if you get raped. For crying out fucking loud....


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post Apr 6 2006, 08:54 AM
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consider her JOB was "stripper" it doesn't really make it an excuse

if it was just some random dumb bitch taking her clothes off MAYBE....maybe...
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There are a lot of people that I don't have sympathy for... but this girl isn't one of them. I agree that she put herself in a dangerous situation, but that doesn't mean that the rape was her fault, and Aaron is a douchebag for thinking that it was. dry.gif

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shes a stripper, what'd she expect, its her fault
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she should have had the foresight to have security with her. im surprised she didnt or she works for a real sleazy place


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 6 2006, 02:52 PM)
she should have had the foresight to have security with her. im surprised she didnt or she works for a real sleazy place

It sounds like a private party thing, like they do at some bachelor parties.


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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 6 2006, 02:53 PM)
It sounds like a private party thing, like they do at some bachelor parties.

private party meaning invite only for the college guests. stripper business id hope they would insist on security for the girl. like how they'll have a man drop her off and stick around.


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post Apr 6 2006, 03:04 PM
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I hope to god the people saying she DESERVED to be raped die fucking horrid deaths...


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 6 2006, 02:59 PM)
private party meaning invite only for the college guests. stripper business id hope they would insist on security for the girl. like how they'll have a man drop her off and stick around.

thats the way it worked with boom boom.

except you have to understand a little bit. strippers are "independant employees" meaning they can take other jobs while working as strippers. you can approach a stripper and invite HER to dance at your private party, you don't approach the strip bar she works for. in the same manner, the stripper hires bouncers to provide security for her at these private parties, in exchange for a percentage of her total income from the party. which is the strippers responsibility. she didn't hire security, her fault she got manhandled in an obvious delicate and dangerous situation. has nothing at all to do with the club she works at.


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the guys were out of line. i dont consider the girl's business to be very moral but at the same time the guys were little perverts who couldnt control their boners.
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 6 2006, 03:38 PM)
thats the way it worked with boom boom.

except you have to understand a little bit. strippers are "independant employees" meaning they can take other jobs while working as strippers. you can approach a stripper and invite HER to dance at your private party, you don't approach the strip bar she works for. in the same manner, the stripper hires bouncers to provide security for her at these private parties, in exchange for a percentage of her total income from the party. which is the strippers responsibility. she didn't hire security, her fault she got manhandled in an obvious delicate and dangerous situation. has nothing at all to do with the club she works at.

So are you saying that since she didn't hire a bouncer or two, the people at the party have the right to rape her?


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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Apr 6 2006, 05:20 PM)
So are you saying that since she didn't hire a bouncer or two, the people at the party have the right to rape her?



What he's saying is that she didn't take practical personal security measures that are generally common sense for the situation.



That doesn't derivate into declaring that they had some right to rape her.


You are smarter than that, to just twist words and make up your own implicated meanings.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 6 2006, 07:18 AM)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190792,00.html

if you're a stripper that does a "private party" for a fucking team of drunk college men, I don't fucking feel sorry one bit for you if you get raped. For crying out fucking loud....

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Here's an analogy, would you walk into a room full of criminals with with a wallet full of cash? No, you wouldn't, just like a woman shouldn't strip in front of a bunch of horny guys without some sort of bouncer for protection.

It's not right for the guys to rape the girl just like it's not right for the the criminals to steal your money, but the girl made a conscious decision to do something stupid so it's no one's fault but her own. If any of you feminazi man-haters say otherwise then you're full of fucking shit.
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none of this would be happening if they had just killed her
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Apr 6 2006, 04:20 PM)
So are you saying that since she didn't hire a bouncer or two, the people at the party have the right to rape her?

if you leave your window unlocked, do people have the RIGHT to steal your stereo?


what i ment is that she should know better, especially in her line of work, to go anywhere alone. they are told by the strip club to hire a bouncer to escort them at private parties, but she refused. she caters to a sleazier less moral crowd, it's a rape crime that could have been prevented if she wouldn't have taken such a risk and just got some protection. those people never should have raped her, but she also never should have let that situation happen. and you have the common sense to know thats what i ment, but i know you are purposely playing dumb and twisting words to start techsans drama wink.gif

it's not the strip clubs responsibility. that was what i was trying to tell cathryn.


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QUOTE (Rocky @ Apr 6 2006, 04:24 PM)
What he's saying is that she didn't take practical personal security measures that are generally common sense for the situation.



That doesn't derivate into declaring that they had some right to rape her.


You are smarter than that, to just twist words and make up your own implicated meanings.

ha, i posted before i read this post.



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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 6 2006, 04:44 PM)
if you leave your window unlocked, do people have the RIGHT to steal your stereo?


what i ment is that she should know better, especially in her line of work, to go anywhere alone. they are told by the strip club to hire a bouncer to escort them at private parties, but she refused. she caters to a sleazier less moral crowd, it's a rape crime that could have been prevented if she wouldn't have taken such a risk and just got some protection. those people never should have raped her, but she also never should have let that situation happen. and you have the common sense to know thats what i ment, but i know you are purposely playing dumb and twisting words to start techsans drama wink.gif

it's not the strip clubs responsibility. that was what i was trying to tell cathryn.

No I wasn't twisting your words, I just wanted clarification, and you gave it to me. I understand that she needs to have bouncers and that it's her responsibility but I also think that someone needs to be held accountable.


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post Apr 6 2006, 06:58 PM
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i never said it was the businesses responsibility but from what i know there are reputable places that do do private parties but also bring a guy from the joint to acompany the girl so she doesnt get raped. a girl going out alone isnt asking to be raped but the odds of it happening are greatly increased so shes just a dumb slut. did she ask for it? no but she majorly put herself in a vulnerable position

then you can think from the other situation. this girl does a private party on her own without her clubs knowing and gets in over her head, the guys pay her for sex and she does it. club finds out = fired. lawsuit
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 6 2006, 07:58 PM)
then you can think from the other situation. this girl does a private party on her own without her clubs knowing and gets in over her head, the guys pay her for sex and she does it. club finds out = fired. lawsuit
hey it happens

You think she would get fired ?


I'm not saying every club is pimpin out their dancers - but I don't think you know enough about strip clubs to really believe somethin like this.


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yeah i think in some places she'd get fired. if i was a business owner hearing something like that wouldnt be worth the risk of VICE or any other form. there are plenty of strippers im sure they dont develope many loyalties


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Ok, let me clarify:

If you're dumb enough to go put on a "private party" strip show for a bunch of drunk ass 19 year old college kids, in this case 42 of them or whatever it was, you're basically putting yourself in the lion's den. this is the same fucking thing as me going into north overton and leaving all the windows rolled down and the keys in my truck overnight, then bitching and pissing because somone stole it in the morning.

I do not feel sorry one single fucking bit for the stripper at all. jesus fucking christ, does it take any huge leap of rational thought to picture something like this happening? not even close.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 6 2006, 11:35 PM)
Ok, let me clarify:

If you're dumb enough to go put on a "private party" strip show for a bunch of drunk ass 19 year old college kids, in this case 42 of them or whatever it was, you're basically putting yourself in the lion's den. this is the same fucking thing as me going into north overton and leaving all the windows rolled down and the keys in my truck overnight, then bitching and pissing because somone stole it in the morning.

I do not feel sorry one single fucking bit for the stripper at all. jesus fucking christ, does it take any huge leap of rational thought to picture something like this happening? not even close.

You are under many assumptions -

- That she knew what the environment would be

- That she wasn't mislead by the guys.

These are Duke students. Last I read the average semester at Duke costs 20k ?


So I think its easy to think these guys were clean cut when they approached her....and who knows how that conversation went.

I'm not saying she was tricked and bamboozled - but you shouldn't be so quick to judge like a fucking faggot


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i think the players should be put naked into jail full of horny prisoners looking for a piece

then have the authorities shut the door and announce

"whatever happens in the next 2 hours is fair game, just don't kill them"


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QUOTE (Rocky @ Apr 7 2006, 12:23 AM)
but you shouldn't be so quick to judge like a fucking faggot

But the responses I get are way more fun when I do that tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Lancifer @ Apr 6 2006, 04:34 PM)
Here's an analogy, would you walk into a room full of criminals with with a wallet full of cash? No, you wouldn't, just like a woman shouldn't strip in front of a bunch of horny guys without some sort of bouncer for protection.

It's not right for the guys to rape the girl just like it's not right for the the criminals to steal your money, but the girl made a conscious decision to do something stupid so it's no one's fault but her own. If any of you feminazi man-haters say otherwise then you're full of fucking shit.

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Ok, needless to say I just saw on TV that "DNA evidence proves that nobody raped her"... it was just on fox news.

So in other words, this bitch was the whore I said she was.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 11 2006, 10:52 AM)
Ok, needless to say I just saw on TV that "DNA evidence proves that nobody raped her"... it was just on fox news.

So in other words, this bitch was the whore I said she was.

yep, theres no DNA.
I guess it just goes to prove that a dumb bitch can cry foul and everyone will come to her side while making real rape victims have a hard time.


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not to mention they made a huge fucking deal about it because she was black.

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yet they're still going to pursue a case because the accuser is black and the lacrosse players are white


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theres not always DNA. they could have used condoms that didnt have a spermicide and had good hygiene
but yeah itll be much harder to prove a rape occured now

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QUOTE (woody @ Apr 12 2006, 01:45 AM)
i bet jesse jackson gets involved

yup, he was on TV yesteday griping about how "da black man be opress by da white man"...

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QUOTE (woody @ Apr 12 2006, 12:45 AM)
i bet jesse jackson gets involved

yeah, I saw the same thing dogmeat saw yesterday. He was on Fox news whining about the case. Today on my lunch they had some Bishop something or another on Fox News (obviously a well-dress black man, was dressed just like Don Magic Juan or whatever) and he was saying the same stuff about the racism stuff and the guy on Fox was just drilling him about there not being any DNA evidence and the dude had no reasoning. They found broken fingernails in the bathroom she was "raped" in, so if there was a rape then I would think the fingernails would have DNA from skin underneath the nails. All I see them saying is DNA evidence, not semen evidence, so I am lead to believe that they also looked for pubic hairs, blood, skin under fingernails, etc.


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i hate how people like jesse jackson uses the race card like it's a subway club card.

if a black guy raped a white girl, he wouldn't be preaching shit. if anything, he'd say that the white girl attacked the black man.

god i hate him.

as i once said before.

I hope jesse jackson, by some weird twist of fate, wakes up surrounded by KKK members, just so he can understand what racism really is.


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