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post Nov 20 2008, 12:16 PM
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post Nov 20 2008, 01:28 PM
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I like how much this is blown out of proportion...

It's not like he outreaches his hand and the other world leaders don't shake it.

There are a few reasons I can think of as to why Bush didn't shake their hands.


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post Nov 20 2008, 02:49 PM
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I expect them to go down on Obama during the next g20.


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post Nov 20 2008, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Nov 20 2008, 02:49 PM) *
I expect them to go down on Obama during the next g20.


Of course, he's already stated he wants to sell what's left of the US to the rest of the world for CHEAP.


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post Nov 26 2008, 03:35 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/...not.ignored.cnn

Turns out the CNN commentator is an idiot (same guy who keeps talking about Twitter) and my initial thought was correct, he had already shaken their hands.

Back to the drawing board Lance!


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post Nov 26 2008, 05:09 PM
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God I hate the media. People should get arrested over stuff like this.


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post Nov 26 2008, 05:24 PM
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Nice comeback.


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post Dec 15 2008, 10:56 AM
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I guess it's better than having shoes thrown at you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIj0YvDBKE


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post Dec 15 2008, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 15 2008, 10:56 AM) *
I guess it's better than having shoes thrown at you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIj0YvDBKE

Didn't make the Iraqi dodgeball team.


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post Dec 15 2008, 03:15 PM
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Bush is absolutely right in his response.

He's quick on his feet though, I will say that, especially for a 62 year old.

Reading the story of the man who threw the shoes, he was imprisoned by the Americans for a while and made a prisoner by the Iranians. I'd be pissed too.


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post Dec 15 2008, 08:20 PM
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damn he's got some moves...that was catlike


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I feel bad for Bush. He is probably really ready for this whole Presidency thing to be over with. The man is probably exhausted. Plus, I wouldn't doubt that he is one of the top 5 most hated men in the world, which is sad. He just was President during a really rough period.
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post Dec 16 2008, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Dec 15 2008, 08:20 PM) *
damn he's got some moves...that was catlike


I thought he was going to catch the shoe and throw it back.


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supposedly he's drinking heavily...
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4093.shtml


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post Dec 16 2008, 10:37 AM
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I can't blame the guy.
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post Dec 16 2008, 01:39 PM
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post Dec 16 2008, 03:49 PM
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I'm sick of people applauding this guy. I mean, I think what he did was totally out of line. Should he go to jail? Eh, I don't think so, but he shouldn't be allowed in the same room as Bush again. Some girl I'm friends with on myspace put up a status message that said something like "I think what the Iraqi journalist did was very brave, and it pails in comparison to what Bush has done to the Iraqi people." Ummm... nothing satisfies those people over there. They complain under Saddam Hussein, who killed thousands of people, and now they are complaining about the US. All we are trying to do is secure their nation and make them safe against terrorists.
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post Dec 16 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Dec 16 2008, 02:49 PM) *
Some girl I'm friends with on myspace put up a status message that said something like "I think what the Iraqi journalist did was very brave, and it pails in comparison to what Bush has done to the Iraqi people."


i agree 100%. but that's no surprise...


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post Dec 16 2008, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Dec 16 2008, 04:49 PM) *
nothing satisfies those people over there. They complain under Saddam Hussein, who killed thousands of people, and now they are complaining about the US. All we are trying to do is secure their nation and make them safe against terrorists.

Man, we're so great, we should get a big sticker.


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post Dec 16 2008, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 16 2008, 05:49 PM) *
Man, we're so great, we should get a big sticker.
Hmm... us ridding the nation of terrorists and murderers and some innocents dying for the sake of the greater good OR a dictator eradicating an entire faction of people. HMMMMMM.....
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post Dec 16 2008, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Dec 16 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Hmm... us ridding the nation of terrorists and murderers and some innocents dying for the sake of the greater good OR a dictator eradicating an entire faction of people. HMMMMMM.....

So long as we are smug at night. Its all ok!


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post Dec 17 2008, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Dec 16 2008, 04:09 PM) *
i agree 100%. but that's no surprise...


I'm trying to understand the logic.

You hate Bush for a war that in your mind is all on him, yet many of our congressmen voted for it. Did we vote them out to punish them? Nope. We left them in office. You need someone to be angry at and that's fine. Me, I like to place blame where blame is due. I don't think Bush made the best decisions, but I think a lot of our politicians made the same decisions (and in some cases their decisions had a bigger impact).

I'm not happy seeing people getting shoes thrown at them and I don't understand how someone who is "so for the 'right' thing" could find it to be a good thing. I guess you're for the right thing as long as it fits your agenda?


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Hmm... us ridding the nation of terrorists and murderers and some innocents dying for the sake of the greater good OR a dictator eradicating an entire faction of people. HMMMMMM.....

I guess as long as we keep the number of people killed, displaced, kids orphaned, and arrested for "suspicious charges" on the DL it's okay. They shouldn't be complaining anyway, it's all in God's plans (ours not theirs).

All the smuggle aside, I don't understand why people see this as some sort of the "good" kicked out of the "evil" so these people can have their "freedom". The US in not in the business of saving the world, if we were then there's about a dozen places we could "liberate". It is what it is, a political strategy that . The reason why the US is not too worried about N. Korea is probably because we have eight nations keeping tabs on it, four of which have a pretty strong incentive to keep them nuclear-free and they happen to be next door neighbors. And frankly, is anyone really worried about Africa going ape-shit on the world? What do they have that we really really want? Not a whole lot. I'm not saying that the US has some evil plan of invade and conquer, but I think the gov't have some idea of the countries that have a government system that we help established is more likely to be on our side and to do our bidding than whoever else was in charge. What I believe is that it's not some God's holy plan we got going on here, just like Obama is not the God's holy angel who's been sent to earth to save his people with his Godly magic.

And by the way, I doubt the US "rid the nation of terrorists and murderers", we haven't even done that in our own country.


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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 17 2008, 08:46 AM) *
I guess as long as we keep the number of people killed, displaced, kids orphaned, and arrested for "suspicious charges" on the DL it's okay. They shouldn't be complaining anyway, it's all in God's plans (ours not theirs).

All the smuggle aside, I don't understand why people see this as some sort of the "good" kicked out of the "evil" so these people can have their "freedom". The US in not in the business of saving the world, if we were then there's about a dozen places we could "liberate". It is what it is, a political strategy that . The reason why the US is not too worried about N. Korea is probably because we have eight nations keeping tabs on it, four of which have a pretty strong incentive to keep them nuclear-free and they happen to be next door neighbors. And frankly, is anyone really worried about Africa going ape-shit on the world? What do they have that we really really want? Not a whole lot. I'm not saying that the US has some evil plan of invade and conquer, but I think the gov't have some idea of the countries that have a government system that we help established is more likely to be on our side and to do our bidding than whoever else was in charge. What I believe is that it's not some God's holy plan we got going on here, just like Obama is not the God's holy angel who's been sent to earth to save his people with his Godly magic.

And by the way, I doubt the US "rid the nation of terrorists and murderers", we haven't even done that in our own country.


Africa is less about "what do they have for us" (which by the way, they have a lot) and more about Africa being a threat or not.


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post Dec 17 2008, 09:33 AM
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bush introduces everything. gotta start my hatred at the top.
congress is retarded too. democrat and republican.


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post Dec 17 2008, 10:16 AM
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bush introduces everything. gotta start my hatred at the top.
congress is retarded too. democrat and republican.

except late term abortions!

hit the slopes there yet?


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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 17 2008, 08:46 AM) *
I guess as long as we keep the number of people killed, displaced, kids orphaned, and arrested for "suspicious charges" on the DL it's okay. They shouldn't be complaining anyway, it's all in God's plans (ours not theirs).

All the smuggle aside, I don't understand why people see this as some sort of the "good" kicked out of the "evil" so these people can have their "freedom". The US in not in the business of saving the world, if we were then there's about a dozen places we could "liberate". It is what it is, a political strategy that . The reason why the US is not too worried about N. Korea is probably because we have eight nations keeping tabs on it, four of which have a pretty strong incentive to keep them nuclear-free and they happen to be next door neighbors. And frankly, is anyone really worried about Africa going ape-shit on the world? What do they have that we really really want? Not a whole lot. I'm not saying that the US has some evil plan of invade and conquer, but I think the gov't have some idea of the countries that have a government system that we help established is more likely to be on our side and to do our bidding than whoever else was in charge. What I believe is that it's not some God's holy plan we got going on here, just like Obama is not the God's holy angel who's been sent to earth to save his people with his Godly magic.

And by the way, I doubt the US "rid the nation of terrorists and murderers", we haven't even done that in our own country.


Maybe you are unaware of how much oil africa has, not to mention the largest Uranium mine in the world. And let's not forget diamonds. But that's more luxury than resource worth killing people for.


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