Fuck......, Financial market taking a hammering Options

[dauss]

AIG is looking for $20,000,000,000 to try to stay afloat, Merril Lynch sold itself to BoA, Lehman files for bankruptcy for losses of ~$613,000,000,000.

Dow down 504 points.
S&P down 59 points. The biggest point drop since 9/11. Over $600 billion loss in value in financial stocks today, a dollar loss like that last happened when George HW Bush was still in office.

Subprime mortgage crisis, 13 months and counting.

[Seeker]

it's the engineered collapse of the american dollar so the nwo can roll out the amero and create a union between canada, america, and mexico for "financial security"

i hope you have currency in euros, gold reserves, and lots of guns

[THECHICKEN]

Im for a north american union

[jwttu]

it's the engineered collapse of the american dollar so the nwo can roll out the amero and create a union between canada, america, and mexico for "financial security"

i hope you have currency in euros, gold reserves, and lots of guns

Is there anything that you dont have a conspiracy for?

[Seeker]

Is there anything that you dont have a conspiracy for?

nope

[THECHICKEN]

We should start a game... find something lance doesn't have a conspiracy for.

[Billy]

I had some stock in AIG. In March they were at $45 per share. Now they're at $4.50.

[jwttu]

I had some stock in AIG. In March they were at $45 per share. Now they're at $4.50.

hopefully you dont have much stock in them

[Mommy]

Whoah, Billy. That sucks.

[Spectatrix]

I don't even wanna see what my IRA looks like.

[FORSAKENR320]

We should start a game... find something lance doesn't have a conspiracy for.

twinkies

[Dogmeat]

I don't even wanna see what my IRA looks like.

Me either

[Seeker]

twinkies

corn syrup in the twinkies (and all snacks like that), it's bad for you but the major corporations don't care because it's cheaper than real sugar

[Seeker]

Me either

mine's down like 20%

[impala454]

the lows happen. it's all part of investing. long term is the whole point. if you're hoping to take $5,000 and turn it into $10,000 next year you have no business investing.

[Spectatrix]

Well no duh, but that doesn't mean we can't be morose when dips occur.

[James]

The good thing about working for the government and paying into their retirement program is if it falls, then you're probably not going to need it anyway.

[FORSAKENR320]

corn syrup in the twinkies (and all snacks like that), it's bad for you but the major corporations don't care because it's cheaper than real sugar

but thats fact, not a conspiracy.

now a conspiracy might be able to tie into those "high fructose corn syrup" commercials that you see all over the commercials lately.... who's behind it and why are these 2 powers competing? simple corporation battles... i think not..

[impala454]

Well no duh, but that doesn't mean we can't be morose whiney bitches when dips occur.

fixed

[pysex]

our economy is in the shitter and i fear will stay there...we hardly do any manufactured goods anymore...all that shit comes from china and india...that's a huge market that no longer belongs to us

[Seeker]

but thats fact, not a conspiracy.

now a conspiracy might be able to tie into those "high fructose corn syrup" commercials that you see all over the commercials lately.... who's behind it and why are these 2 powers competing? simple corporation battles... i think not..

to most people it's a conspiracy... go to wal-mart and tell one person you see purchasing twinkies about high fructose corn syrup and they'll look at you like you're retarded (facts be damned)

if you want more of a conspiracy that's corn-syrup related here ya go: coke used to be made with pure sugar, coca cola wanted to move to corn syrup but they knew no one would go for it unless they snuck it in so they created "new coke" which was purposefully designed to taste like shit and bomb in the marketplace. once everyone hated "new coke" they reintroduced "original coke" except this time with corn syrup! people were so happy to have the old coke back they didn't complain about the corn syrup switch (coca cola's evil plan worked).

[Billy]

fixed

$45 to $2.79 is not a "dip".

[impala454]

You're talking about one stock. The whole market didn't drop 96% like your one stock did. Yes we are in just a "dip". Besides I wasn't the one that called it a dip, Christine was.

[Seeker]

A fellow named "reinhardt" on Google Finance Groups predicted the Sept. 15th market crash down to the day two months ago. He also said that this is the beginning of the slide downwards to the total devaluation of the Dollar. He definitely has some interesting views on how the Catholic church and Vatican is involved.

http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...ad550b590f931bf
http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...94b770683c1508c

He's banned from Google Groups now: http://finance.google.com/groups/profile?e...r2RdD2gxz5WDITw

[Seeker]

The Bush crime family makes all other organized crime syndicates pale in their efficiency and ruthlessness.

Lehman hired Jeb Bush August 30th. Lehman also hired George Walker (Bush's second cousin) last year to head up the bank's asset management business. So they hire Bush's cousin as head of assets... and a year later the bank fails? I'm sure George Walker had absolutely nothing to do with it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/fundsFundsN...046902620070830
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/08/27/jeb-...-secret-weapon/

George Bush's relatives did the dirty work at the WTC also. Marvin Bush was in charge of the company providing security the to WTC and months before 9/11 he stopped all bomb sniffing dogs from regularly searching the buildings.

[woody]

what happened to the news leak of mass insider trading?

[The Fanatic]

A fellow named "reinhardt" on Google Finance Groups predicted the Sept. 15th market crash down to the day two months ago. He also said that this is the beginning of the slide downwards to the total devaluation of the Dollar. He definitely has some interesting views on how the Catholic church and Vatican is involved.

http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...ad550b590f931bf
http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...94b770683c1508c

He's banned from Google Groups now: http://finance.google.com/groups/profile?e...r2RdD2gxz5WDITw

Interesting stuff

Too bad Reinhardt is dead now.

[impala454]

I think it was Lance's family, and he's blaming Bush to try to cover it up.

[pysex]

I think it was Lance's family, and he's blaming Bush to try to cover it up.

That doesn't make you suspicious one bit? Jeb and his cousin George Walker being heads of two important financial departments....and the company goes in the shitter?

[impala454]

I haven't read any of the stories, was just joking around. I'm too tired and just want to be back in my own bed with AC to care about any of this.

Given Lance's tendencies I would probably read them with a skeptical eye. I'll prob check them out when I get back home.

[pysex]

keep in mind, the sources lance cited are fairly reputable...

wall street journal and reuters....

[jwttu]

keep in mind, the sources lance cited are fairly reputable...

wall street journal and reuters....

keep in mind that lehman has been in the shitter for about a year, it wasnt if they were gonna go bankrupt but when.

[Spectatrix]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jh...tes-generic-off

[Seeker]

I think the collapse of these financial institutions were engineered (obviously) and intended to transfer control of these companies over to the Federal Reserve by way of "bailouts". With all the bailouts the Federal Reserve is quickly stockpiling quite a portfolio... Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and AIG. The question is who's next? The Federal Reserve is crashing and buying up all these companies so they're under their control. May I remind you that the Federal Reserve is not an American Government institution but a privately held corporation (owned by the Rothschilds who funded Hitler) and headquartered in Puerto Rico. Welcome to the NWO.

[impala454]

Yeah that's it, the federal government used some mind control devices to make people take loans & credit they couldn't afford. They also implanted tens of thousands of agents in the form of loan officers and had them offer up loans they knew those people couldn't afford. Yeah, that's a totally reasonable explanation

[Seeker]

Yeah that's it, the federal government used some mind control devices to make people take loans & credit they couldn't afford. They also implanted tens of thousands of agents in the form of loan officers and had them offer up loans they knew those people couldn't afford. Yeah, that's a totally reasonable explanation

Policies come from the top-down not from the bottom-up. The loan officers only did what their superiors told them to do (offer loans and credit to people who obviously can't afford it). Have you ever used common-sense once in your whole life?

[impala454]

Uh, loan officers are paid on commission, they don't need management to convince them to make crooked sales. This conspiracy bullshit is really gettin old Lance. You see them everywhere. If something goes wrong that's the first place you go. If you really believe this stupid shit I'm at a loss for words.

oh but apparently dreaming up conspiracies = "common sense" to you.

[Seeker]

Uh, loan officers are paid on commission, they don't need management to convince them to make crooked sales. This conspiracy bullshit is really gettin old Lance. You see them everywhere. If something goes wrong that's the first place you go. If you really believe this stupid shit I'm at a loss for words.

oh but apparently dreaming up conspiracies = "common sense" to you.

Commission is only all the more reason to do what their superiors are telling them to. LMAO, have you ever taken an IQ test?

[impala454]

Exactly! so why would they need some government conspiracy to enforce the idea of commission?

Seriously you only make yourself look more like a little punk 8th grader with the extra comments too.

[THECHICKEN]

Um... so not only is the bush family a grand crime syndicate, but they are also some of the greatest financial minds there are. To single handedly take down billion dollar orginazations through a grand scheme that no one in the financial market, besides apparently one person, could detect. Well im impressed. Just think if the great bush's were on our side...

Bush brought down the towers too... he also has magical powers to hide hundreds of pounds of wires, and explosives.

Conspiracies are by their definition against the logical conclusion people draw about a situation... yet when you DON'T believe a conspiracy on here you aren't logical... heh