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post Aug 22 2008, 11:25 PM
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Cool. Very good choice.


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post Aug 23 2008, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Aug 22 2008, 11:25 PM) *
Cool. Very good choice.


A better choice would have been Donald Rumsfeld....


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never heard of him.. /shrug
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post Aug 23 2008, 07:53 AM
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not a very appealing pick imo. how does this go along with his "change" message?

sure hes got the foreign policy stuff that obama doesnt, but thats about it. he also has a lip thats gotten him in trouble many times. haha, i wouldnt be surprised if biden is the one who costs obama the election.

imo he wouldve been better off with a lesser known candidate like bayh or kaine.


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post Aug 23 2008, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 23 2008, 07:50 AM) *
never heard of him.. /shrug

did you follow the dem primaries? he was in the running but dropped out around the iowa caucuses i think.


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post Aug 23 2008, 08:27 AM
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his mouth has already gotten him in trouble


http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multim...42-ed853838cd88
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post Aug 23 2008, 08:53 AM
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nah I didn't follow the democrat primaries, no big deal.
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post Aug 23 2008, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (jwttu @ Aug 23 2008, 09:27 AM) *
his mouth has already gotten him in trouble


http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multim...42-ed853838cd88


LOL holy shit.


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post Aug 23 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Billy @ Aug 23 2008, 11:10 AM) *
LOL holy shit.

For emphasis. Wow. How could Obama's campaign miss that???


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post Aug 23 2008, 02:42 PM
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I just remember Biden's comment about how Giuliani's sentences are composed of a noun, a verb, and 9/11...


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post Aug 23 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Aug 23 2008, 01:58 PM) *
For emphasis. Wow. How could Obama's campaign miss that???


The same way that his campaign missed all the comments from people like the pastor/preacher and a few others who have supported his campaign....

Obama seems to miss a lot of red flags until people raise a stink.
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post Aug 23 2008, 07:46 PM
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I think it's hilarious how he's going to bring "Change" to Washington with a guy who is an even bigger snake than he is at his side, except he's been a bigger snake for a lot longer too.

But that's ok, the national news media tells everyone Obama is going to change everything, so he's a God and can do no wrong.


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post Aug 24 2008, 01:56 AM
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look up what biden said about barack being the first "clean" black guy...

and what he said about indian-americans. and this is recent stuff! (within past year).


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post Aug 24 2008, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (jwttu @ Aug 23 2008, 09:27 AM) *
his mouth has already gotten him in trouble


http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multim...42-ed853838cd88
hahahaha awesome
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post Aug 24 2008, 09:02 PM
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Heres the comment that Jonathan is referring to:
QUOTE (Biden)
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy...I mean, that's a storybook, man.''


http://www.observer.com/2007/arts-culture/...n-obama-edwards

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post Aug 25 2008, 08:04 AM
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I think this pretty much seals the deal for McCain.

Obama/Biden is an urban, north/east, fairly divisive ticket. I just don't see it happening.


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post Aug 25 2008, 08:18 AM
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i think it seals the deal for obama.
especially if mccain chooses romney.


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post Aug 25 2008, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 25 2008, 09:18 AM) *
i think it seals the deal for obama.
especially if mccain chooses romney.


I don't see it that way at all. You still have a ton of pissed of Democrats who wanted Hillary and do not like Biden who may throw their votes toward Nader. I also think there is more to come from the Rezko ordeal.


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post Aug 25 2008, 09:53 AM
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Biden's RIAA and FBI record: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10024163-38.html


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post Aug 25 2008, 09:57 AM
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too bad he didn't chose ron paul
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post Aug 25 2008, 10:01 AM
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biden's riaa record scares me. one of the things i like most about obama is his technology voting record, so hopefully he will counter that.


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biden is a pheg
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post Aug 25 2008, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 25 2008, 09:18 AM) *
i think it seals the deal for obama.

what makes you think so?
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 25 2008, 12:45 PM) *
what makes you think so?


Obama could have died in a plane crash and he would have said this.


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yeah I know, just wanted to hear if actually had any reason to think so
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we need a vice president who isn't afraid to call the republicans out. i feel as if the vice president somewhat fills that role and john edwards didn't do any of that 4 years ago. the democrats problem with elections is never being on the offense, but always defending and it's been proven to not work recently.
he counteracts everything that obama is not. for example biden is for the death penalty, and obama is not. if someone was using that alone to not vote for obama, then maybe now they could reconsider.
he actually has a reasonable plan to bring the troops home and leave iraq stable. he provides the experience that everyone seems to be holding over obama's head. obama may be admitting a weakness by choosing biden, and that is what a politician should do. admit where he's weak and attack it. still think that hillary would have been a better choice, but biden would have been my second. curious to see what mccain does now.

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QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 25 2008, 04:09 PM) *
we need a vice president who isn't afraid to call the republicans out. i feel as if the vice president somewhat fills that role and john edwards didn't do any of that 4 years ago. the democrats problem with elections is never being on the offense, but always defending and it's been proven to not work recently.
he counteracts everything that obama is not. for example biden is for the death penalty, and obama is not. if someone was using that alone to not vote for obama, then maybe now they could reconsider.
he actually has a reasonable plan to bring the troops home and leave iraq stable. he provides the experience that everyone seems to be holding over obama's head. obama may be admitting a weakness by choosing biden, and that is what a politician should do. admit where he's weak and attack it. still think that hillary would have been a better choice, but biden would have been my second. curious to see what mccain does now.


Do we also need a vice president who doesn't think the guy he's running with is ready for the job? Do we also need a vice president who would rather McCain be president?


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QUOTE (cmac @ Aug 25 2008, 04:09 PM) *
we need a vice president who isn't afraid to call the republicans out. i feel as if the vice president somewhat fills that role and john edwards didn't do any of that 4 years ago. the democrats problem with elections is never being on the offense, but always defending and it's been proven to not work recently.
he counteracts everything that obama is not. for example biden is for the death penalty, and obama is not. if someone was using that alone to not vote for obama, then maybe now they could reconsider.
he actually has a reasonable plan to bring the troops home and leave iraq stable. he provides the experience that everyone seems to be holding over obama's head. obama may be admitting a weakness by choosing biden, and that is what a politician should do. admit where he's weak and attack it. still think that hillary would have been a better choice, but biden would have been my second. curious to see what mccain does now.

So other than the death penalty, where are biden and obama opposites? And honestly I don't see grabbing a running mate with opposite views as something that 'seals the deal'. If someone's key issue is the death penalty, they're not voting for Obama. Having a VP which is for it isn't going to change that. Though I don't see the death penalty as some key issue for many.

And the current administration is already working on a plan to finish up in Iraq, no doubt we'll be hearing much more about that before the elections.
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I think it will piss off lots of Hillary supporters. Honestly I like Obama, but I think he is gonna screw it up like Carter.


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QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 25 2008, 09:06 PM) *
So other than the death penalty, where are biden and obama opposites? And honestly I don't see grabbing a running mate with opposite views as something that 'seals the deal'. If someone's key issue is the death penalty, they're not voting for Obama. Having a VP which is for it isn't going to change that. Though I don't see the death penalty as some key issue for many.

And the current administration is already working on a plan to finish up in Iraq, no doubt we'll be hearing much more about that before the elections.



what'll really piss me off is that the plans are already being worked on to get out... they're doing all the work. and then some lame ass nancy boy democrat without a clue is going to get in office, and take all the credit. and the american public will be too stupid to know who really did all the work


my proof on this:: the american public is too stupid to know who really needs the blame....


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I think that's why you'll hear big news about it before the elections wink.gif
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was reading rumors that Michael Williams is a possible candidate for McCain's VP.
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Michael L Williams? But my dad is in Australia right now! tongue.gif


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Your dad is black!?
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Lemme go ahead and sum up Hillary's speech for yall since I'm probably the only one bored enough to watch it:

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Democrats good!!!!!!!! I have to talk like a damn 90 year old lady who sings bass. did i mention democrats are gooooood??? if you vote democrat you r gonna like amurrica. kids teachers middle class lower gas prices bill clinton healthcare affrickan amurrricans used to be slaves. did i mention democrats r GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!?!? you should vote 4 ooooooooooooooobaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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hmm... it removed all the extra spaces.... basically add about 30 spaces between every word in my post and you'll get the idea.
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Geez now speculation that Kay Bailey Hutchison could be McCain's VP... I bet that'd pull over a decent amount of Hillary voters.
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No, but his name is Michael Lawrence Williams.


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Geez now speculation that Kay Bailey Hutchison could be McCain's VP... I bet that'd pull over a decent amount of Hillary voters.


I don't think that would be necessary to pull over Hillary voters. It seems those who really liked Hillary really dislike Obama.


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yeah that's true. and guess why? oh yeah that's because the great "unifiying speech" hillary was the one who made them all hate obama. it's hilarious how two-faced these people are. short of him dying before the election, I think mccain has this one won.
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Its still a tossup for me. This year there are no really big Democrats going independent, so it may be their year.


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