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 Jul 25 2008, 08:18 AM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10  |
So, I thought there was a topic about TV's, but I can't find it. Fiance and I are looking to get an HDTV here pretty soon and I want some recommendations. We don't really want (or need) bigger than 36", so please don't recommend anything bigger than that.
Mainly, we're looking for something to make our games look better and to make our movie watching experience awesome. So, any recommendations/suggestions? --------------------  |
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Jul 25 2008, 08:52 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Get a Samsung or Toshiba LCD. Make sure it displays 1080p. Many of them will say 1080p on them because they accept a 1080p signal, but that's decieving IMHO. To make sure it does true 1080p, look for it to say 1920x1080 resolution. If you want to make your movie watching experience awesome, grab a blu-ray player while you're at it
 . PS3 or Panasonic BD30 or BD50 are your best bets on those.
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Jul 25 2008, 08:57 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 25 2008, 08:52 AM)  Get a Samsung or Toshiba LCD. Make sure it displays 1080p. Many of them will say 1080p on them because they accept a 1080p signal, but that's decieving IMHO. To make sure it does true 1080p, look for it to say 1920x1080 resolution. If you want to make your movie watching experience awesome, grab a blu-ray player while you're at it . PS3 or Panasonic BD30 or BD50 are your best bets on those.Why would I need to grab another BluRay player? I thought you knew I had a PS3 =P Also, I'm not sure 36" TV's readily come in 1080p... -------------------- |
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Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Impala knows his tvs. If he says it does, I'm sure it does.
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Jul 25 2008, 09:14 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Mommy @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM) Impala knows his tvs. If he says it does, I'm sure it does. Yah, this is true. I'm also biased in where I want to buy my TV as I like the idea of getting a discount... -------------------- |
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Jul 25 2008, 09:24 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
oh cool, didn't realize you already had a PS3.
walmart sells samsungs don't they? if not, vizio is pretty good for the price. if you're watching blu-rays, man, do everything in your power to go 1080p. i'm sure there are some 36" that have it, they just might not be at walmart. if not, trust me it'd be worth it to go to 40" or so to get it. especially if you're getting a vizio with a walmart discount. |
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Jul 25 2008, 09:38 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 25 2008, 09:24 AM) oh cool, didn't realize you already had a PS3. walmart sells samsungs don't they? if not, vizio is pretty good for the price. if you're watching blu-rays, man, do everything in your power to go 1080p. i'm sure there are some 36" that have it, they just might not be at walmart. if not, trust me it'd be worth it to go to 40" or so to get it. especially if you're getting a vizio with a walmart discount. We actually have a bunch of Vizio's at Walmart. From what I've been reading and hearing, Vizio is surprisingly good. -------------------- |
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Jul 25 2008, 11:53 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yep. they're widely regarded as the best bang for the buck as far as flat panels are concerned. if/when you get one let me know and I'll find you all the calibration settings for it.
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Jul 26 2008, 08:24 AM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
-------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Jul 26 2008, 02:48 PM
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I'll second Samsungs. For the size you plan on buying, there isn't much of a difference between 720p and 1080p in terms of picture quality. Only when you get in to larger screens (40" or more) is there a noticeable difference. And I'm quoting a Best Buy salesman on this, so I really doubt he has any reason to lie. Plus, the difference is about $150. Imagine how many more months of WoW you could buy with that
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Jul 26 2008, 03:54 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Oasis @ Jul 26 2008, 02:48 PM) I'll second Samsungs. For the size you plan on buying, there isn't much of a difference between 720p and 1080p in terms of picture quality. Only when you get in to larger screens (40" or more) is there a noticeable difference. And I'm quoting a Best Buy salesman on this, so I really doubt he has any reason to lie. Plus, the difference is about $150. Imagine how many more months of WoW you could buy with that I don't pay for WoW... I can get a Vizio from Walmart for about 520 after my discount. -------------------- |
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Jul 26 2008, 05:29 PM
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 N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
If you really want to support Walmart, buy the Ilo.
And before you give me shit for the Ilo, I got my 42" for $500 from walmart, and it's a really nice television. There is very little difference in picture quality, a difference you could only possibly tell by sticking it side by side to one of the $4000 televisions. It was a really good value buy. --------------------  QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Jul 26 2008, 05:42 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Forum Warrior @ Jul 26 2008, 05:29 PM) If you really want to support Walmart, buy the Ilo. And before you give me shit for the Ilo, I got my 42" for $500 from walmart, and it's a really nice television. There is very little difference in picture quality, a difference you could only possibly tell by sticking it side by side to one of the $4000 televisions. It was a really good value buy. No Ilo at my walmart. -------------------- |
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Jul 26 2008, 06:59 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
The iLo brand is made by Funai, who also makes Emerson, Sylvania, and Symphonic. It is not HD though. Not giving FW "shit", just saying. I personally have a 36" Symphonic 720p in my bedroom and it looks great.
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Jul 26 2008, 07:12 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 26 2008, 06:59 PM) The iLo brand is made by Funai, who also makes Emerson, Sylvania, and Symphonic. It is not HD though. Not giving FW "shit", just saying. I personally have a 36" Symphonic 720p in my bedroom and it looks great. Yah, I need the HDTV  I think I'm gonna either go with the 32" Emerson LCD (it is HDTV) for 498 or the Vizio 32" for 670 something.
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Jul 26 2008, 08:05 PM
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N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 26 2008, 07:59 PM) The iLo brand is made by Funai, who also makes Emerson, Sylvania, and Symphonic. It is not HD though. Not giving FW "shit", just saying. I personally have a 36" Symphonic 720p in my bedroom and it looks great. Just curious, what is HDMI? My television is HDMI. -------------------- QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Jul 26 2008, 09:45 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4529477 shows that the iLo brand does make an HDTV.
HDMI = High-Definition Multimedia Interface -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Jul 26 2008, 11:10 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
Again, no iLo at my walmart, so that's a moot point.
Upon further reading, this iLo you linked isn't sold online... or in stores... -------------------- |
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Jul 27 2008, 02:11 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
Yeah. I wasn't linking for you to buy; just to show an example of one in Billy's defense. I did find it odd that the television wasn't sold anywhere, but there were others when I googled "HD iLo". I just picked the first one that came up.
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Jul 27 2008, 02:14 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
Probably in someone's warehosue.
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Jul 27 2008, 03:33 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Just be careful with some of those brands as they may say something which makes them sound like they are HD but really aren't. As said before, your real indicator is to look for the resolution. IMHO you're getting it at walmart to use your discount you're better off spending a few extra bucks and getting the vizio.
one of these two would be pretty kick ass: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8586330 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5684931 |
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Jul 27 2008, 04:55 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Is this a pre-wedding gift you guys are being offered or something? I thought just the other day you were complaining about a lack of funds... like for food.
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Jul 27 2008, 05:23 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 27 2008, 04:55 PM) Is this a pre-wedding gift you guys are being offered or something? I thought just the other day you were complaining about a lack of funds... like for food. The lack of funds for food was exaggeration. But, we've been saving up money for this occasion as well as Shellana having some extra money left over from her trip to England, so we're getting a TV. -------------------- |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:23 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
lawls Christine still crackin the money whip on him...
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Jul 28 2008, 08:09 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Nah, just found it odd to hear someone complaining about money one minute, then planning to buy an HDTV the next... *shrugs*
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Jul 28 2008, 11:38 AM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:53 AM) yep. they're widely regarded as the best bang for the buck as far as flat panels are concerned. if/when you get one let me know and I'll find you all the calibration settings for it. Where do iyou find the calibration settings? i have a 32 Vizio model#:VX32LHDTV10A -------------------- |
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Jul 28 2008, 11:58 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (woody @ Jul 28 2008, 12:38 PM) Where do iyou find the calibration settings? i have a 32 Vizio model#:VX32LHDTV10A The best way to go about finding them for any TV, go to avsforum.com, search on your model number to find the specific thread for your model. remove letters at the end one at a time if you don't find any thread, many of the threads are shared for multiple versions of the same model. or if some numbers for your model correspond to the size, replace them with xx. i.e. mine is a Samsung HLS6187w, but the thread is HLSxx87 (as the 61 is the size, and it's available in 50, 57, 61, 67"). The threads will usually be titled "official <manufacturer> <model> thread", i.e the one for yours is "Official Vizio VX32L Thread". Once you find the thread, search within it for "calibration settings" and you'll usually find at least a few posts where either the professional calibrators or some "power users" have posted theirs. They're not the end all be all, but a good place to start. Once you change the settings, give it some time to see how you like it, and try different lighting scenarios (regular TV watching, low light for movies, etc). You will most likely find it a little dimmer, but with a much nicer picture. Most TVs come with the brightness & contrast set way too high and it ends up blurring the image a little. Manufacturers set these values higher from the factory because it helps sell their TVs (i.e. trying to look brighter than the others, in an already bright retail store). There is also usually some type of proprietary processing the manufacturer puts in there to further "enhance" the image, which usually sucks (most calibrated settings have these turned off if possible). Anyhow, most who try out the calibrated settings see a night and day difference in picture quality over the factory settings. I know it was that way with my three and several friend's HDTVs. here's one I found for yours: backlight: 55 brightness: 57 contrast: 45 color:40 tint: 3 sharpness:3 color temp: red: 130 green: 120 blue: 105 DNR: medium Black level Extender: ON White Peak limiter: ON CTI: ON Flesh tone: OFF Adeptive luma: ON DCR: OFF |
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Jul 28 2008, 12:00 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,329 Joined: 20-June 07 Member No.: 1,243 |
QUOTE (woody @ Jul 28 2008, 12:38 PM) Where do iyou find the calibration settings? i have a 32 Vizio model#:VX32LHDTV10A He posted them in the thread I started back when I bought my tv. Early January or so. I'd find it but its a bitch searching on my phone -------------------- |
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Jul 28 2008, 01:43 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yours was a different TV though, they're different per each brand/model TV.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:05 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
lol
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Jul 28 2008, 03:44 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,329 Joined: 20-June 07 Member No.: 1,243 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 28 2008, 02:43 PM) yours was a different TV though, they're different per each brand/model TV. You posted the goddamned link to where you can find calibration settings for various tvs. I'm well aware Vizio is not Samsung -------------------- |
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Jul 28 2008, 03:52 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
lol
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Jul 28 2008, 10:32 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Oasis @ Jul 28 2008, 04:44 PM) You posted the goddamned link to where you can find calibration settings for various tvs. I'm well aware Vizio is not Samsung well hell if i knew wtf you meant. you posted "i'll see if i can find it" directly after i posted how to find it... sheesh. |
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Jul 29 2008, 05:19 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
lol
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Jul 29 2008, 06:26 PM
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N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
lol
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Aug 20 2008, 06:35 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
So, another quick question. We got a 37" Vizio (cost about 670 after my discount). It says it's 720p but when I switch to my PS3 it says that it's 1080p... does that mean it's reading that the PS3 can output 1080p or that the TV is actually doing 1080p?
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Aug 20 2008, 07:55 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
The TV "accepts" 1080p and then down converts it. Still looks killer though right?
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Aug 21 2008, 01:21 AM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 20 2008, 07:55 AM) The TV "accepts" 1080p and then down converts it. Still looks killer though right? Hell yes it does. Especially with HD channels. Mmm mmm sexy. -------------------- |
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