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Timbo
post Jul 10 2008, 02:35 AM
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What are the best ways to maximize p2p security/privacy these days?

Also, I recently got Cox cable and it would appear that using the router I normally use with my connections appears to break the internet. I've read a bit about this issue, and am not certain what to do. Albeit, this is relatively little information to diagnose the problem, I find myself a bit frustrated that this would happen. Router is a Linksys router with fully updated firmware.


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post Jul 10 2008, 02:48 AM
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um, that sounds like cox bullshits to me. any router should work, just plug it into the modem.


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post Jul 10 2008, 03:02 AM
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Ah, nah, I mean I've tried plugging two different routers inline and the both shut down the internet, even though my system is sending and receiving packets. Rather odd.


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post Jul 10 2008, 07:57 AM
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you try resetting the router to factory defaults?
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:12 PM
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Does it happen all the time or does it work for a little while and then quit?

If it works and then quits, you probably need to cap the number of peers you're connecting to via bittorrent. What you have to understand is that when you download a torrent, you can easily connect to literally hundreds of peers in a few seconds. Since the router can only handle so many connections at once, you'll probably notice that the connection will die off.

If it's happening all the time, my guess is that the router would be misconfigured. Since it's Cox, you want to make sure it's configured to get your IP address automatically. You may want to call Linksys and figure out the best way to configure it. Cox will probably be less than helpful about it since they want you to buy their home networking solution (if they're like most ISPs).


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post Jul 10 2008, 02:15 PM
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I had the cable company here (Grande Communications) tell me the other day that they I only pay for one connection so if a router isn't splitting that connection, they won't do anything about it. The internet was being retarded. I could get internet on my laptop. Or I could get internet on the desktop. But I couldn't get it on both simultaneously. It finally stopped being stupid and started working again but still... What the fuck kind of customer service says that? Who pays for multiple connections for internet in one home? NOBODY. That's who.
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:23 PM
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That's weird, I've always gotten awesome customer service from Grande. Were they just saying they couldn't support router troubleshooting since it wasn't their equipment?


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post Jul 10 2008, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 10 2008, 03:23 PM) *
That's weird, I've always gotten awesome customer service from Grande. Were they just saying they couldn't support router troubleshooting since it wasn't their equipment?
No, because the router was working. They were saying that their service only provides one connection and if it doesn't split with use of a router than they don't care. I usually have great customer service with them too. Their connection has been pissing me off lately though.
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:53 PM
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You probably just got an idiot person, just try calling back a few times or going up the management chain or something. A router doesn't "split" your connection, it.... drumroll.... ROUTES the connection. You're still only using one connection to the outside.
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:55 PM
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Yeah, the guy sounded like he was having a bad day. I was going to call back, but I hate talking to those people sometimes.
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Any router issues, I would suggest resetting the router to factory first, then going from there.
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post Jul 10 2008, 04:07 PM
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Yep, didn't do much unfortunately sad.gif


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do you have both wired and wireless computers that won't work? (and you're sure plugging a PC directly into the cable modem works?)
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post Jul 10 2008, 04:17 PM
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Yes on both counts


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post Jul 10 2008, 04:20 PM
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might be a long shot, but try at the command line:

ipconfig /flushdns
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if that still doesn't work do this:

cls
ipconfig /all
click the C:\ icon in the upper left -> edit -> select all
hit enter once
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post Jul 10 2008, 04:48 PM
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Random thought... when you first got Cox, did you initially plug your computer directly into the modem? If so, you may need to set your router to clone your comp's MAC address. I had that problem once.


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post Jul 10 2008, 05:21 PM
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Good suggestions, I'll be trying those a bit later. And someone else installed it in my absence, but yeah, they plugged it right into the computer.


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post Jul 10 2008, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 10 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Random thought... when you first got Cox, did you initially plug your computer directly into the modem? If so, you may need to set your router to clone your comp's MAC address. I had that problem once.

so...... when you first got cox.... did you just plug them right in?











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post Jul 11 2008, 01:02 AM
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Go ahead and ditch Cox. Cable internet connections have static IP addresses, unless you want to pay extra for up to 6(well, 6 with Comcast here in CO, but I'm sure there's some sort of low limit.) I had a problem with Cox a few years back, they said that Paramount e-mailed them that I was sharing some movie and if it happened two more times that they would permanently disconnect my service.


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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 10 2008, 06:21 PM) *
Good suggestions, I'll be trying those a bit later. And someone else installed it in my absence, but yeah, they plugged it right into the computer.

I'd be willing to bet that's your problem. They used to (and probably still do) lock onto a single MAC address, so whatever it sees first is what gets associated with your account/IP. You can call them and have them change it or unlock it completely, but the easy work-around is just to have the router clone it.


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post Jul 11 2008, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 11 2008, 02:02 AM) *
Go ahead and ditch Cox. Cable internet connections have static IP addresses, unless you want to pay extra for up to 6(well, 6 with Comcast here in CO, but I'm sure there's some sort of low limit.) I had a problem with Cox a few years back, they said that Paramount e-mailed them that I was sharing some movie and if it happened two more times that they would permanently disconnect my service.

Cable internet connections don't have static IP addresses by default. If you want a static IP you can pay extra to get it, but your standard connection is not static. It may appear that way because you'll keep the same IP for a while, but it's not. You got caught and they just went through their database and matched the IP to your account at the time.
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 10 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Random thought... when you first got Cox, did you initially plug your computer directly into the modem? If so, you may need to set your router to clone your comp's MAC address. I had that problem once.

I've had to do this before too. It also could be that it wants you to enter the dns server manually (it should give it to you if you type "ipconfig /all" in the cmd box, just a thought.


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post Jul 13 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 11 2008, 08:24 AM) *
Cable internet connections don't have static IP addresses by default. If you want a static IP you can pay extra to get it, but your standard connection is not static. It may appear that way because you'll keep the same IP for a while, but it's not. You got caught and they just went through their database and matched the IP to your account at the time.

That's probably the case, because I had the same IP address for the year that I lived at that house so it seemed like it was static. Cox had cut off the service after about 9 months of downloading.

I got dsl after I moved, and I've had it for nearly 2 years now. During that time I've downloaded over 900GB of data, and haven't had any problems.


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Yeah, when I had DSL in Lubbock, my ip would change like 4 or 5 times a day. It was annoying as shit because the internet would cut out for a bit, but we downloaded so much shit with that service that I didn't mind the constant ip changes. I'm talkin' we probably downloaded a good 100 GB of movies and music in the 4 or 5 months that we had it. I don't download stuff anymore because I have cable internet, and it's honestly too risky these days. My husband just buys all the cd's he wants, and I occasionally get something, but not often. We have Netflix to watch the movies we want to watch. In desperation, I downloaded keygens for Adobe software a while back, but I deleted the programs. I had a trial version that was good for 30 days, and it expired like 2 weeks before my final publication design project was due. I wasn't going to spend god knows how much buying the programs. Adobe is stupid. Their trial versions are full versions. When the trial expires, it asks you if you have a product key. All you have to do is find a keygen generator, type in the code and you have a full copy without having to worry about getting a good connection on a torrent to download the product. Very stupid IMO, but whatever.
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post Jul 13 2008, 10:01 PM
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if you have an IP that changes a lot, go sign up at http://www.dyndns.com . It's a free service, and it will have a small app you can run either in the tray or as a background service, that will keep your IP associated with the domain of your choice. I.e. you can choose from stuff like: JessicaLoveBigCock.cooldns.net. there's a huge list of domains to choose from too. (obviously only useful if you have services where you log in to your home network remotely)
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post Jul 13 2008, 10:17 PM
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post Jul 14 2008, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 11 2008, 08:43 AM) *
I'd be willing to bet that's your problem. They used to (and probably still do) lock onto a single MAC address, so whatever it sees first is what gets associated with your account/IP. You can call them and have them change it or unlock it completely, but the easy work-around is just to have the router clone it.


How in Sam's Spoons do I have the router clone it? o,o


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post Jul 14 2008, 01:07 AM
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i like no-ip.com better.

they have servebeer.com


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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 14 2008, 12:58 AM) *
How in Sam's Spoons do I have the router clone it? o,o

It's under setup when you login to your router.


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Excellent, I got it working biggrin.gif Thanks a lot guys

Now back to the original question. What sort of options are there to maximize p2p security? o,o


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post Jul 14 2008, 08:30 AM
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you don't. honestly. that's like asking how to get healthy if the only food you eat is 2 dozen donuts per day.
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post Jul 14 2008, 03:25 PM
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I have noticed that my max speed appears to be halved since I figured out the router. Odd.


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max speed? your internet connection or some p2p client?
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Just download an ipfilter file. That's a simple start.


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Forgive my uh, stupidity, but what is one of those and how's it work?


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It's just a list of IP addresses from sources you don't want to be connecting to your computer. PeerGuardian is a program that will ban connections from that list of IP's. Don't know what program you use, but it's built in and for me it's under options and security. It accepts filter files and whatever format peerguradian is in. Google "ipfilter.dat".


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Yep Dauss knows it. some services also do encryption


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