Wow... this is too far Options

[impala454]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...on/5833544.html

OCEANSIDE, Calif. — On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news: Several students had been killed in car wrecks over the weekend.

Classmates wept. Some became hysterical.

A few hours and many tears later, though, the pain turned to fury when the teenagers learned that it was all a hoax — a scared-straight exercise designed by school officials to dramatize the consequences of drinking and driving.

I'm all for hauling the twisted car up to the school to show students just how bad it can be, etc, etc, but wow, this is WAY over the top...

[Mommy]

...

Wow.

[FORSAKENR320]

i don't think so.

as someone who's had WAY more than my fair share of friends (6) dying in drinking and driving, i'm all for scaring the shit out of students.

then again, i also heavily support public flogging for misdeamenor offense

[James]

Brilliant idea. Only problem is that it could become overdone and you get one of those "boy who cried wolf" scenarios. Maybe do it once every 4-5 years.

[Mommy]

I think what is even more scary is the fact that they have to resort to these kind of tactics to stop kids from drinking and driving.

[chook]

Lying isn't right.

[Spectatrix]

Solution: legalize drinking for like... age 12+. If adults don't make it out to be a big deal, kids won't think it's as big a deal and won't go fucking nuts/stupid over it.

My parents let me try alcohol as I was growing up... never a lot, aside from the time they lost track of my plum wine consumption at a Chinese restaurant... but if they were drinking something for a holiday or birthday or w/e, they'd let me try a sip. I don't think I've ever been drunk, though I did get pretty buzzed once at 18 (safe at a friend's house, with only people I knew well), and I never went crazy with alcohol in college or drove drunk or anything like that.

[Mommy]

By that same token, though, alcohol was absolutely forbidden in my household growing up. My parents didn't drink even a sip. I never drank a single sip while in high school. When I left for college, I didn't try alcohol until my second semester at Tech. I never drove while drinking. Then, at age 19, I gave up alcohol completely until I was almost 21. I really never drank much until I was 22, and then pretty much gave it up again. I never had a problem with drinking despite my parents absolutely forbidding it. In fact, to this day, my mom thinks I have pretty much never drank. I have made the conscious choice that I will probably never drink again because that's the kind of household I want to raise my children in.

I don't think it has anything to do with how the parents are concerning alcohol. I know plenty of parents that allow their kids to drink supervised, and their kids make awful decisions regarding alcohol. I think it has to do with adult supervision. Know where your teenagers are. Know what they are doing. Know who they are with. My mom was always in my business, but I didn't care. I knew she did it to protect me because she loved me.

[nickluto]

oh noes! UR FRIENDS R DED!




lol.jk.

[Spectatrix]

I don't think it has anything to do with how the parents are concerning alcohol. I know plenty of parents that allow their kids to drink supervised, and their kids make awful decisions regarding alcohol. I think it has to do with adult supervision. Know where your teenagers are. Know what they are doing. Know who they are with. My mom was always in my business, but I didn't care. I knew she did it to protect me because she loved me.

Well I think the worst households are where the adults drink but forbid the kids from drinking because "it's something for adults to do". The forbidden fruit angle makes it all the more tempting for kids later on. But I definitely agree that parental involvement is key on this and other issues.

[Mommy]

Well I think the worst households are where the adults drink but forbid the kids from drinking because "it's something for adults to do". The forbidden fruit angle makes it all the more tempting for kids later on. But I definitely agree that parental involvement is key on this and other issues.

I will agree to that.

[impala454]

It was forbidden for me and my parents never drank either. First drop of alcohol that entered my house was when I moved back home last year and brought my box O liquor (like $300 worth). My first drink was at 17 at a party and I partied quite a bit from then through college, but never really got careless with it. Now it's about a once every couple months kinda thing.

[nickluto]

Solution: legalize drinking for like... age 12+.

Hell yeah! Let em get used to the impairment in motor function while they're cruising around on their bicycles. Few broken limbs and road rash will teach em not to get into a car when they get their licenses.

[impala454]

it works overseas because they've done it that way for like... hundreds of years. somehow I doubt it would work overnight here.

[chook]

It was forbidden for me and my parents never drank either. First drop of alcohol that entered my house was when I moved back home last year and brought my box O liquor (like $300 worth). My first drink was at 17 at a party and I partied quite a bit from then through college, but never really got careless with it. Now it's about a once every couple months kinda thing.

I remember the time on my porch.

[impala454]

I knew you'd chime in with that one... I still swear I was handed everclear by people telling me it was water.

[Spectatrix]

it works overseas because they've done it that way for like... hundreds of years. somehow I doubt it would work overnight here.

Few policy changes are effective if implemented overnight. I think, though, that a gradual reduction of the drinking age could work quite well. 18 for starters, then work down from there.

[James]

Well I think the worst households are where the adults drink but forbid the kids from drinking because "it's something for adults to do". The forbidden fruit angle makes it all the more tempting for kids later on. But I definitely agree that parental involvement is key on this and other issues.

Never was a problem for me /shrug If anything, it can also be a motivator. You see how your parents act, consequences of their actions - liver operation/jail/emotional roller coaster/etc - and you just don't even bother.

[FORSAKENR320]

Hell yeah! Let em get used to the impairment in motor function while they're cruising around on their bicycles. Few broken limbs and road rash will teach em not to get into a car when they get their licenses.

i can't decide if this would be the most awful, or the most awesome video to watch....

[Testm0nkey]

my high school did the same thing. then when it was told it was a hoax the students that were "dead" came to school for the rest of the day wearing shirts about the statistics of automobile accidents. i thought it was pretty good

[jonathan83]

my high school did the same thing. then when it was told it was a hoax the students that were "dead" came to school for the rest of the day wearing shirts about the statistics of automobile accidents. i thought it was pretty good

we had something similar to this but we were never told anyone actually died.

just some select students wore shirts with statistics and then they weren't allowed to talk all day, like to pretend they were dead kinda.

i think that stuff is fine, but when you actually tell students that "so and so" died over the weekend, that's horribly wrong. you're giving specific names and potentially could make some kids just go nuts...i know when i was in high school, i'd never experienced death before, and to do that at school for the first time would be too tramatic for some.

[Dogmeat]

i think they should just beat the living shit out of all highschool students on a regular basis.

yeah, some of the good ones will get beat too, but they're just gonna have to tough it out for four years so we can keep the fucktards in check.