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post May 20 2008, 10:23 PM
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http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Report_US...5/20/97545.html

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Israel’s Army Radio is reporting that President Bush intends to launch a military strike against Iran before the end of his term.


You all think this is really gonna happen, or that this is just another neocon new site reporting weird neocon crap? smile.gif


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post May 20 2008, 10:40 PM
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wouldn't surprise me if it happened before his term was up. a nuclear armed iran scares the hell outta me...
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post May 20 2008, 10:50 PM
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i hope it doesnt happen, our military is stretched right now
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post May 20 2008, 11:03 PM
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Haha, what a dick thing to do...fuck over the next President by starting another war.


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post May 20 2008, 11:25 PM
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better than fucking the next pres over by letting us or someone else get nuked
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post May 20 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 12:25 AM) *
better than fucking the next pres over by letting us or someone else get nuked

Good thing we stopped all of those nukes from getting used by Iraq, amirite!!! laugh.gif


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Sorry, Impala. Bush used his 'blind-faith trump card' with the invasion of Iraq. The odds of him getting any sort of military action approved, without undeniable proof that America is in imminent danger, are slim to none.


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post May 21 2008, 01:08 AM
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we should of just bombed iraq or iran's enrichment program and not invaded.

Israel will probably do a strike, we should publically denounce, while pumping them money. Its middle east politics!

If bush orders an invasion, i hope the pentagon tells him to go fuck himself.


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post May 21 2008, 01:28 AM
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President Bush is not going to launch any kind of strike on Iran before the end of his term. He is not popular enough nor do i think the nation as a whole is very gung ho on attacking Iran because of domestic issues such as the current economic instability.


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post May 21 2008, 08:05 AM
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I love how you guys boil attacks down to some kind of political move. "Bush's trump card", that's laughable bud. I guaranfuckintee if we had posts that went back to the start of the war every single one of you was in favor of it. You do what's necessary. It doesn't mean it's going to be pretty, or some kind of three days of smart bomb runs to take care of. Iraq told the weapons inspectors to fuck off for several years. You guys think that was just out of spite?? Are we gonna let this asshole, who threatens to annihilate other countries, do the same thing?
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post May 21 2008, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 21 2008, 12:03 AM) *
Haha, what a dick thing to do...fuck over the next President by starting another war.


You gotta admit though, it's pretty amusing


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post May 21 2008, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 08:05 AM) *
I love how you guys boil attacks down to some kind of political move. "Bush's trump card", that's laughable bud. I guaranfuckintee if we had posts that went back to the start of the war every single one of you was in favor of it. You do what's necessary. It doesn't mean it's going to be pretty, or some kind of three days of smart bomb runs to take care of. Iraq told the weapons inspectors to fuck off for several years. You guys think that was just out of spite?? Are we gonna let this asshole, who threatens to annihilate other countries, do the same thing?


I organized the campus "no war" protest two months before the war started back at Tech. check the UD, I was badly misquoted in it for it.
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post May 21 2008, 09:36 AM
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So you're saying you're fine with other countries disobeying treaty and giving the bird to weapons inspectors for several years?
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post May 21 2008, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 09:05 AM) *
I love how you guys boil attacks down to some kind of political move. "Bush's trump card", that's laughable bud. I guaranfuckintee if we had posts that went back to the start of the war every single one of you was in favor of it. You do what's necessary. It doesn't mean it's going to be pretty, or some kind of three days of smart bomb runs to take care of. Iraq told the weapons inspectors to fuck off for several years. You guys think that was just out of spite?? Are we gonna let this asshole, who threatens to annihilate other countries, do the same thing?

Hmm Israel bombed Iraq's reactors a long time ago, they should just do the same and not worry about invading them. I told you I switched sides about believing in Bush's WMDs in Iraq.


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post May 21 2008, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 09:36 AM) *
So you're saying you're fine with other countries disobeying treaty and giving the bird to weapons inspectors for several years?


wow, i normally don't jump on the "rail on impala" bandwagon, but you really like to read into things don't you?

When bush was priming for war, i did all the research I could trying to formulate my own opinion about his claims. I came to the decision that I didn't support a war with Iraq.

But that's not the point of this chuck, you said that all of us supported the war in the beginning, and I was disagreeing with you. So you were already wrong, because not "every single one of you [us]" was not in favor of invasion.
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post May 21 2008, 10:46 AM
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what made you "switch sides" on that issue chuck?

and "just" bombing Iran's nuke facilities might work, but what are the repercussions? do you think Iran will just sit back and go, "oh well they bombed our stuff, we'll just continue on business as usual."
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post May 21 2008, 10:47 AM
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like it matters anyway, saddam was just making chocolate chips in his factories
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post May 21 2008, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (Epic @ May 21 2008, 11:42 AM) *
wow, i normally don't jump on the "rail on impala" bandwagon, but you really like to read into things don't you?

When bush was priming for war, i did all the research I could trying to formulate my own opinion about his claims. I came to the decision that I didn't support a war with Iraq.

But that's not the point of this chuck, you said that all of us supported the war in the beginning, and I was disagreeing with you. So you were already wrong, because not "every single one of you [us]" was not in favor of invasion.

that's fine. let me rephrase. "almost everyone on here"
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post May 21 2008, 12:21 PM
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i am pretty sure i remember zach (as well as i) being against the war in iraq from the beginning.


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post May 21 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 11:46 AM) *
what made you "switch sides" on that issue chuck?

and "just" bombing Iran's nuke facilities might work, but what are the repercussions? do you think Iran will just sit back and go, "oh well they bombed our stuff, we'll just continue on business as usual."

Because nothing was found, and lost of it was falsified.

Israel Bombed saddam's nuke facility in the mid 80's. If we did the same thing in Iran and they tried to invade Iraq, we would really mess up their army. If we invade, we would have to deal with more insurgents. Iran already supports foreign fighters in Iraq, although not as much as previous.


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QUOTE (chook @ May 21 2008, 01:32 PM) *
Because nothing was found, and lost of it was falsified.

Do you think it'd take five years to hide/destroy some weapons?

QUOTE (chook @ May 21 2008, 01:32 PM) *
Israel Bombed saddam's nuke facility in the mid 80's. If we did the same thing in Iran and they tried to invade Iraq, we would really mess up their army. If we invade, we would have to deal with more insurgents. Iran already supports foreign fighters in Iraq, although not as much as previous.

I think if we simply bombed their nuke facilities and walked away, every single weapon left would immediately get launched at Iraq & Israel.

Not to mention if Iran does successfully build some nukes or other bad weapons, they're not going to be dumb enough to put them in some facility where they're easy to find. So we just end up with the same pre-Iraq war problem.
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post May 21 2008, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 01:47 PM) *
Do you think it'd take five years to hide/destroy some weapons?
I think if we simply bombed their nuke facilities and walked away, every single weapon left would immediately get launched at Iraq & Israel.

Not to mention if Iran does successfully build some nukes or other bad weapons, they're not going to be dumb enough to put them in some facility where they're easy to find. So we just end up with the same pre-Iraq war problem.

Sorry I meant to say lots and not lost. The whole congo yellowcake thing pissed me off. Why should we invade? My brother still serves and I do not want to see him go to Iran because I know it would be stupid.


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post May 21 2008, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 21 2008, 01:21 PM) *
i am pretty sure i remember zach (as well as i) being against the war in iraq from the beginning.

yep, you are correct.

And I think other posters no longer around were against it as well.


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post May 21 2008, 07:30 PM
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I'm going to get a bumper sticker that says "Stop the war in Iraq: Support domestic drilling operations!"

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post May 21 2008, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 21 2008, 08:30 PM) *
I'm going to get a bumper sticker that says "Stop the war in Iraq: Support domestic drilling operations!"

Seriously smile.gif

LOL


So the war WAS about oil!

Dogmeat-Jeezus said so!!!!!!!!!!!


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post May 21 2008, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 21 2008, 07:31 PM) *
LOL
So the war WAS about oil!

Dogmeat-Jeezus said so!!!!!!!!!!!


Well ... I mean how strong of case anyone wants to try to make about WMD's now, who knows ... but, when they say that the troops are over there defending our "way of life", I believe that, our way of life is dependenton cheap oil .... nasty, but true.

Therefore, the more we'd drilled here for it the last 30 years, perhaps the less likley we'd have needed to go take over an oil-rich country maybe?

I dunno, but yeah, you're fucking delusional if you think oil wasn't a huge reason for Iraq hahah smile.gif


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post May 21 2008, 08:00 PM
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I think oil wasn't a huge reason for the war in Iraq.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mttimiz1m.htm
US Crude imports from Iraq (in thousands of barrels):

1996 423
1997 32,530
1998 122,518
1999 264,764
2000 226,804
2001 289,998
2002 167,638
2003 175,663
2004 240,191
2005 193,987
2006 201,866
2007 177,009
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QUOTE (chook @ May 21 2008, 02:08 AM) *
we should of just bombed iraq or iran's enrichment program and not invaded.

Israel will probably do a strike, we should publically denounce, while pumping them money. Its middle east politics!

If bush orders an invasion, i hope the pentagon tells him to go fuck himself.
Reminds me of that movie Charlie Wilson's War (if any of you haven't seen this movie, I highly recommend it). Fund a war with Iran, but do it all through secret earmarks sent to a foreign country, in this case Israel. Also, I'm so sick of people saying that Israel is bullying Palestine. They take a lot of shit from the people over there. They have to defend themselves.
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