Chapel planned for Texas Tech Campus Options

[jwttu]

So its been announced today that Tech is looking into building an all faiths chapel on the campus. It looks like it will all be financed privately. How do y'all feel abou this?

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/051608/loc_279578482.shtml

[FORSAKENR320]

as long as there are no requirements placed on students, i don't have an issue with it.

the second that this church starts trying to cram it's self down students throats though, it should get cut.

[Oasis]

as long as its privately financed

[cmac]

if it truly can be used by muslims as well as christians, then i have no problems.

[James]

That's dumb. Put a cross in it, imo. Stained glass windows with saints and other events, too.

[Psykopath]

That's dumb. Put a cross in it, imo. Stained glass windows with saints and other events, too.

nah, not on a public university. IMOIMOIMOIMO

[Psykopath]

as long as there are no requirements placed on students, i don't have an issue with it.

the second that this church starts trying to cram it's self down students throats though, it should get cut.

This

and the whole "open to all faiths" thing, no singling out to endorse one over the other.

[RitalinJunkie]

I get the feeling that it will end up being used most by faiths that are a minority here. Look at how many churches there are just down Broadway (First Christian, 1st Baptist, St. Elizabeth's, First United Methodist, Church of Christ all there in the same area)...then try and find a mosque or a synagogue. I think it could be great for those students who don't have a definite place in this town to worship they way they feel they need to.

[FORSAKENR320]

believe it or not, this will prolly be just the loophole some of my clients need to avoid being arrested.... i've gotten several people who've been arrested "loitering" on texas tech property, trying to pick up college chicks.

with an "all inclusive" church with more open hours, they really can't be kicked as easily


doesn't have too much to do with the nature of this thread, but is interesting how such things are always capable of being abused

[impala454]

Sounds to me just like a moneymaker for whoever is building it. For weddings and such. Doesn't sound like some kinda place where people will be worshipping all the time.

[FORSAKENR320]

or further tax break purposes for the school?

unsure on that, but i know that churches get massive tax breaks

[Dogmeat]

Well, as long as they don't allow those whacko extremist faiths, like the Muslims, the Hindus, the Bhuddists ... you know, all those weirdos .... then that's just fine. You can't have any of that weird shit going on in the heartland of all places ya know, you gotta just get on down there and worship GOD. And not any of those other pinko communist gods, the REAL god! The one in the CHRISTIAN BIBLE!

[Psykopath]

Well, as long as they don't allow those whacko extremist faiths, like the Muslims, the Hindus, the Bhuddists ... you know, all those weirdos .... then that's just fine. You can't have any of that weird shit going on in the heartland of all places ya know, you gotta just get on down there and worship GOD. And not any of those other pinko communist gods, the REAL god! The one in the CHRISTIAN BIBLE!

your e-persona is so funny.

[Dogmeat]

your e-persona is so funny.

There was no ePersona here. Were there such words as "Sextits", "Masturbatory Femi-Instincts", "Cuddle", or "girl-feelings" ...?

[Psykopath]

There was no ePersona here. Were there such words as "Sextits", "Masturbatory Femi-Instincts", "Cuddle", or "girl-feelings" ...?

Well, either it was the e-persona or you're unAmerican.



(I'm kind of against any sort of chapel on a public university to begin with, given the whole no church/state mixture thing...I mean, I can see pluses and minuses to the whole thing, but it makes me a bit uneasy... )


But hey, whatever.

This post has been edited by Psykopath: May 17 2008, 12:53 AM

[Dogmeat]

Well, either it was the e-persona or you're unAmerican.
(I'm kind of against any sort of chapel on a public university to begin with, given the whole no church/state mixture thing...I mean, I can see pluses and minuses to the whole thing, but it makes me a bit uneasy... )
But hey, whatever.

Well, that's ok there Zach, I understand! If they were going to allow those communist pinko relegious weirdos into a chapel that was supposed to have GOD worshipped in it, I'd feel uneasy too!

ok but on a serious note...

Why do I have visions of this idea backfiring radically and the place being bombed or something? heh

[chook]

its probably just a moneymaker as people stated. Who would want to get married in Lubbock anyways?

[kcroxyoursox]

I wouldn't want to get married in Lubbock. But I would have been interested in being able to get married on the campus where my husband and I first met...

Perspective ftw.

And yeah, I think it will be more for performing marriages and holding receptions/events than it will be to impose religion on anyone. It's not like they're bringing in a preacher/minister/priest to run the chapel.

[Dogmeat]

I wouldn't want to get married in Lubbock. But I would have been interested in being able to get married on the campus where my husband and I first met...

Perspective ftw.

And yeah, I think it will be more for performing marriages and holding receptions/events than it will be to impose religion on anyone. It's not like they're bringing in a preacher/minister/priest to run the chapel.

We need Jerry Falwell.

[The Fanatic]

I don't personally agree with it because whether it be one faith or every faith there should still be a separation of church and state. Plus, while the church may be funded with private dollars it will be located on public property. The whole project seems tainted with ulterior motives. I don't really trust Kent Hace...

[Dogmeat]

well this whole freedom of relegion thing has been completley bastardized.

if it was just different denominations of christianity, everything would be ok, as this is what the founding fathers OBVIOUSLY intended, but then you get a bunch of god dammned communist pinkos invading this country trying to destroy it and then you get a bunch of people with ass-backwards relegions that worship everything from goats to false prophets who aren't jesus who seem to think the hard working christian folks of america owe them something, and that's how you get this mess!

[Mommy]

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[The Fanatic]

[Testm0nkey]

I don't like the idea of "privately" funded buildings being built on a public university. "privately funded" just scares me. I'm curious who or what organization donated the money? that is not a common thing is it?

not that i necessarily care if the university chose to have a "chapel" on its campus but also curious what other public-non religion associated universities have such a thing.

[Mommy]

I don't like the idea of "privately" funded buildings being built on a public university. "privately funded" just scares me. I'm curious who or what organization donated the money? that is not a common thing is it?

not that i necessarily care if the university chose to have a "chapel" on its campus but also curious what other public-non religion associated universities have such a thing.

ummm a lot of buildings on campus are built through private donations. Take the Business Administration building at Tech for instance. I believe all the funding for that came from one person. UT's business building is the same way.

[Testm0nkey]

money donated to the school at large i dont consider "privately funded" per say IMO. i know the meaning of the words its the idea behind them

like a person/org. paid money for the exact purpose of religious intention on a public university is what i have an issue with

[impala454]

why do you have an issue with it?

[Mommy]

I understand what you are saying. I do...

It's just that I don't see too much of a difference. I mean, the guy that donated the money to Tech for their BA building did so with the exact purpose of getting a new BA building built.

Now, a lot of other privately funded buildings are on campus that are for religious purposes. Texas State has a Baptist Student Ministry building. I assume that was privately funded by either a person or organization. I guess my point is, it isn't that rare. Additionally, the fact that this building can be used by any faith (at least in theory) is a plus also. I see it as a good thing. If people are that afraid of religion then they need to hide in a box. It's not illegal to go door to door passing out religious pamphlets (a judgment handed down by the US Supreme Court so it's legally binding in every part of the US). I don't see a problem with having a building where students can go to get away from their studies and the busy life of being a student. Some find solace in their religion.

[Testm0nkey]

well with that same kind of thinking whats wrong with all the student ministries on university 100m away from campus?

i mean tech could have used that money for something, imo, more useful and necessary

and we already have a cultural/international center where religious things used to be housed

im not going to protest this or anything but thats my opinion. although i would have a problem if the money came from some fanatical group, like baptists. HOHOHO

[impala454]

cat, it wasn't tech's money to spend. they simply allowed it to be built. like has already been said it's probably just going to be a moneymaker for people having weddings in it.

[Testm0nkey]

theres something in this that just makes me feel uneasy! i cant break it down!

[impala454]

just think of it as tech making money off religion... maybe that'll help

[Testm0nkey]

ok makes me feel a little better

[Epic]

i really don't know much about the specifics about Tech's interfaith center, but campuses that establish these and run them as fairly as possible usually have a lot of success with them. I've worked at two schools where they were able to do a lot of philanthropic endeavors through it, had a great and fun place for students to interact, and actually sparked a lot of positive dialogs concerning the middle east (which seems to always be the topic of discussion).

i support them, and in my opinion is also something that could really support the international student population if we do it correctly.

[The Fanatic]

It won't be done correctly this is west texas!

[Mommy]

It won't be done correctly this is west texas!

That's two sentences!

[The Fanatic]

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Bitch...

This post has been edited by The Fanatic: Jun 9 2008, 10:26 PM