Mother who used fake MySpace accounts to harass girl indicted Options

[Hartmann]

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/l...drew-indic.html

[jonathan83]

i remember hearing about this when it first came out.

what a loser with no life, to do something like that...

[impala454]

I hate to see a young girl commit suicide, but this is complete bullshit. The lady made a myspace page and "bullied" the girl and now faces 20 years in prison!!???! Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this?

[jonathan83]

i didnt read the article, but i dont agree with 20 years, no. and i doubt that would happen.

realistically, i would say involuntary manslaughter or something.

[Hartmann]

i didnt read the article, but i dont agree with 20 years, no. and i doubt that would happen.

realistically, i would say involuntary manslaughter or something.

She's under indictment for falsifying information when obtaining her MySpace accounts (against the TOS).

[impala454]

I think it's treading very dangerous waters to start indicting people of "making" someone else to commit suicide.

looking at the indictment pdf, here's the gist of what it says:

1. Sept 20, 2006 defendants created a myspace account for a 16 year old boy named "Josh Evans" and posted a pic (from the way it reads, he's not a real person, just one they made up)
2. Sept 22, 2006 defendants used the account to contact the girl, the exact message said that she was "sexi."
3. Sept 24, 2006 defendants sent another message inviting the girl to touch the "snake" of "Josh Evans"
4. Sept 26, 2006 defendants flirted with the girl
5. Oct 7, 2006 defendants told the girl "Josh Evans" was moving away
6. Oct 7, 2006 defendants induced the girl to write: "aww sexi josh ur so sweet if u moved back u could see me up close and personal lol."
7. Oct 10, 2006 defendants induced the girl to write: "Heyy babe!! Call me sometime 636 [xxxxxxx]! Its the cell. i love you so much."
8. Oct 16, 2006 defendants messaged the girl, in substance, that the world would be a better place without her living in it.
9. Oct 16, 2006 after learning the girl had killed herself, defendants deleted the myspace account.

What really disturbs me here are #6, #7, #8. They "induced" the girl to write those things???

[nickluto]

She's under indictment for falsifying information when obtaining her MySpace accounts (against the TOS).

I thought violating the terms of service usually got you kicked off whatever service you agreed to...


not indicted of federal crimes...

[nickluto]

and what kind of loser meets a "bOi" online, gives them their cell phone number, and tells them that they love him 18 days after he sends her a message?

She had serious social and emotional issues, obviously, as do most people that kill themselves. I would argue that you could not prove that her suicide was caused directly by the events on MySpace, but by her unhealthy psychological tendencies.

[jonathan83]

yeah i think i remember reading that she had some problems.

in any case, the woman should at least get some kind of probation or community service stuff. that's just sick that a mom would do something stupid like that.

[impala454]

but to what end? if someone at school calls a kid a name should they get community service due to "emotional stress"?

this topic almost calls for resurrection of the Pussification of America thread...

[Oasis]

this topic almost calls for resurrection of the Pussification of America thread...

YAHTZEE!

I feel no remorse that this girl died. Call me an asshole, I don't care. If you're fucked up enough to blow your brains out over a Myspace prank, good riddance. One less weak minded psychologically buttfucked loser in this world. Once we thin the herd and get rid of these invalids, maybe America will become great again

[Mommy]

I go both ways on this issue.

Americans are a rude and mannerless group of people. That needs to change, but I don't think it's up the government to set us straight.

[Epic]

people have killed themselves after emotional torment from people before, it just usually wasn't in writing so its tough to prosecute.

i actually remember reading an unverified account that the girl had threatened and attempted suicide before as well.

shitty situation, not sure how i would proceed if i was in the jury/was the judge.

[chook]

I think its a civil case more than criminal, and it that then manslaugher. The lady is a jerk for doing it.

[Mommy]

Why don't you all go kill yourselves

















OMG JUST KIDDING

[impala454]

omg you're goin to jail for 20 years

[Mommy]

where all my lesbian fantasies will come true




I mean.... WHAT

[impala454]

so if bullying someone into committing suicide is manslaughter, then is bullying by itself attempted manslaughter?

[Mommy]

the man asks a fair question

[FORSAKENR320]

YAHTZEE!

I feel no remorse that this girl died. Call me an asshole, I don't care. If you're fucked up enough to blow your brains out over a Myspace prank, good riddance. One less weak minded psychologically buttfucked loser in this world. Once we thin the herd and get rid of these invalids, maybe America will become great again

i absolutely agree with you. i was going to write something on similar lines. bullys happen. it's part of life, if you can't deal with it, maybe you SHOULD take yourself out of society.

Any adult who uses the internet or a social-gathering website to bully or harass another person, particularly a young teenage girl,

that part pissed me off. so, just because this "victim" is female, the charges should be more severe? so harassing a young boy shouldn't be as big a deal? fucking bullshit. genders are equal, they can take just as much emotional abuse

[Dogmeat]

I remember back when I was about 15 or so there was this girl that used to be on IRC in the same chatroom as me. She was a couple years younger than I was, and apparently was very insecure with herself.

I tried getting her to kill herself just to see if I could.

I had thought I succeeded for awhile, but didn't really feel bad about it, because I didn't know for sure if I did or if she just stopped getting on IRC.

When I was 18, she messaged me on AIM. Apparently some time long ago I'd given her my AIM name, as I had stopped using IRC awhile ago.

We chatted. She was still alive. I asked her how many boys dicks she'd sucked, etc, what kinda drugs she was into, that type of thing. She was like 15 at the time. Eventually I returned to being mean to her to try to get her to kill herself, knowing that this would never happen. She was too wise now. She got mad at me for trying to get her to kill herself, and stopped talking to me.

About three years later, I got an IM from her outta the blue. She was 18 or 19 now, and apparently had her own "web page" ... www.camwhores.com.

She wanted me to pay. I told her I would not pay to see her abused vagina, but that she could send me the naked pictures of herself and I would jack off to them and think about what a whore she was. She said her pussy was worth money now, and this gave her a false sense of worth in life.

I haven't heard from her in roughly 7 years. Perhaps she did wind up dying.

[pysex]

so if bullying someone into committing suicide is manslaughter, then is bullying by itself attempted manslaughter?

the defense should have a field day with this one

[Oasis]

I remember back when I was about 15 or so there was this girl that used to be on IRC in the same chatroom as me. She was a couple years younger than I was, and apparently was very insecure with herself.

I tried getting her to kill herself just to see if I could.

I had thought I succeeded for awhile, but didn't really feel bad about it, because I didn't know for sure if I did or if she just stopped getting on IRC.

When I was 18, she messaged me on AIM. Apparently some time long ago I'd given her my AIM name, as I had stopped using IRC awhile ago.

We chatted. She was still alive. I asked her how many boys dicks she'd sucked, etc, what kinda drugs she was into, that type of thing. She was like 15 at the time. Eventually I returned to being mean to her to try to get her to kill herself, knowing that this would never happen. She was too wise now. She got mad at me for trying to get her to kill herself, and stopped talking to me.

About three years later, I got an IM from her outta the blue. She was 18 or 19 now, and apparently had her own "web page" ... www.camwhores.com.

She wanted me to pay. I told her I would not pay to see her abused vagina, but that she could send me the naked pictures of herself and I would jack off to them and think about what a whore she was. She said her pussy was worth money now, and this gave her a false sense of worth in life.

I haven't heard from her in roughly 7 years. Perhaps she did wind up dying.

Holy shit, this is one of the funniest things I've ever read on Techsans