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Hartmann
post Apr 23 2008, 09:58 AM
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Proceed as follows:

1. Login to Facebook
2. See pop-up window
3. Proceed to vomit


This is retarded. If I want to talk to someone from high school, college, etc. I'll login to AIM, I still have the same screen name.


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cmac
post Apr 23 2008, 10:40 AM
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zuckerberg likes to steal shit. (ex: facebook itself)
the interface sucks.
looks even worse with 1024x768 or smaller and doesn't work in ie6.


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post Apr 23 2008, 10:43 AM
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useless and ghey IMO
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impala454
post Apr 23 2008, 11:28 AM
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I don't really see anything wrong with it. Prob won't use it, but whatever.
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post Apr 23 2008, 02:00 PM
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its basically the same thing as the chat inside gmail. its very unobtrusive so i see no problem with it
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post Apr 23 2008, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (jwttu @ Apr 23 2008, 03:00 PM) *
its basically the same thing as the chat inside gmail. its very unobtrusive so i see no problem with it


I don't see it as the same thing. Gmail is e-mail, Facebook is social networking. Gmail saves chats as e-mails, who knows what Facebook is doing with them. Gchat is a standalone messaging client based on an open source protocol, again, who knows what Facebook is based on.

I am usually for new, cool things but this seems retarded. If people want instant messaging, get an instant messenger.


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post Apr 23 2008, 02:24 PM
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It's just a little chat app man, I don't understand why you think it's so retarded. As much as people sit around on facebook all day, it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.
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post Apr 23 2008, 02:29 PM
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until digsby and other multi im messengers supports it, it's just stupid.
all i need is another im. aim, msn, gchat, facebook, yahoo, icq.


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post Apr 23 2008, 02:45 PM
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I don't believe it's an actual application is it? It's just a quick chat app inside the page right? Just like the gmail one.
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post Apr 23 2008, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:45 PM) *
I don't believe it's an actual application is it? It's just a quick chat app inside the page right? Just like the gmail one.

correct its just like the gmail one in the way that if you have an account then you have the chat capability. Also like Gmail you make yourself unavailable. After the initial popup it is very unobtrusive as it just sits on the bottom right of the screen like a taskbar item.

I probably wont ever use it but I have no problem with it being there. Stephen I normally think you are pretty rational, but i on this i think you are taking it too far.
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post Apr 23 2008, 04:52 PM
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its not an actual application because i have 0 applications but it pops up for me! is there a way to close it or make it go away? its annoying having it at the bottom of my screen

the gmail chat i like and i like how its set up (discreet etc)


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post Apr 23 2008, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:45 PM) *
I don't believe it's an actual application is it? It's just a quick chat app inside the page right? Just like the gmail one.


Google Talk is an actual application, it just has a web interface as well.

http://www.google.com/talk/

I'm not really getting worked up about it, I just think it is dumb. One more thing we don't need.


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post Apr 23 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 23 2008, 05:52 PM) *
its not an actual application because i have 0 applications but it pops up for me! is there a way to close it or make it go away? its annoying having it at the bottom of my screen

the gmail chat i like and i like how its set up (discreet etc)

you cant make the bar at the bottom of the screen go away but you can close the popup
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post Apr 23 2008, 11:05 PM
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I just used the facebook chat thingy...it's not so bad.
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post Apr 24 2008, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:24 PM) *
It's just a little chat app man


But this is teh internetz. It's serious business!


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post Apr 24 2008, 08:47 AM
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I think facebook is just TOO stuffed full of CRAP. Those damn apps drive me nuts...I have resorted to just ignoring all of the notifications cus it's just droves and droves of stupid shit.
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Apr 24 2008, 09:47 AM) *
But this is teh internetz. It's serious business!


To some people the internet is business.


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post Apr 24 2008, 12:52 PM
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Then think of it in the business sense. Facebook wants people to use the site as much as possible to pull in ad revenue. So now someone can see that you're on and send you a text message. That alone could keep the person at the site for an extra 30 seconds. Hell could be 30 minutes. Multiply that by a giant number of users and that's a lot of ad revenue.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:04 PM
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impala, quit asking me to cyber with you over facebook chat, i told you i'm not like that
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 24 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Then think of it in the business sense. Facebook wants people to use the site as much as possible to pull in ad revenue. So now someone can see that you're on and send you a text message. That alone could keep the person at the site for an extra 30 seconds. Hell could be 30 minutes. Multiply that by a giant number of users and that's a lot of ad revenue.


My thinking was that chat on websites went out the door four years ago... I guess I was wrong.

Ad revenue is not generated by "hits" anymore, it's generated by leads, people actually clicking the links.

Facebook is slowly turning into MySpace, minus the viruses. Guess I'll be deleting that account as well.


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post Apr 24 2008, 01:16 PM
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Yeah I can't stand the "applications" crap. I will still use facebook because I like the layout, and the fact that people can't put seizure inducing colors and patterns as their backgrounds. I just wish you could turn off all applications and application notifications.

as far as chat on websites, I find myself using the gmail one a fair amount. I'll get on to check my email, and one of my buddies (who can't use aim at work) will be on, and will chat for a min.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:16 PM) *
as far as chat on websites, I find myself using the gmail one a fair amount. I'll get on to check my email, and one of my buddies (who can't use aim at work) will be on, and will chat for a min.


My point was that chat inside of Gmail makes sense, as it was originally a standalone application and Gmail is a communication tool. So if you're going to send someone an e-mail and you see them online, you just send them a message on the chat tool. It makes sense.

In that regard I can see the chat tool in Facebook being useful, instead of sending someone a message, you send them a chat message. But other than that, it's a bloat feature without a lot of value-add (IMO)


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