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post Mar 10 2008, 02:53 PM
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Very sad. One time that I actually believe the kid wasn't involved in a gang himself. He had offers to go to Stanford, and his mom was serving in Iraq when her 17 year old was killed.
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post Mar 10 2008, 04:01 PM
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LA is the gang capital of the western hemisphere. i heard a boys and girls club director in long beach say theres a few murders every weekend. after 911 police had to turn from working gangs to anti terrorism investigations even now. since then theres been a gang resurgence in a lot of areas. comparing the number of deaths, loss to the economy, and other criminal activity due to gang related issues versus terrorism in america would be interesting

sad. that father especially got to me


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post Mar 10 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 10 2008, 05:01 PM) *
sad. that father especially got to me
yeah, same here. He had a lot of ambitions for his son. I can tell he worked hard to keep his sons straight.
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this is why i approve of limited vigilante justice...... gangs want a war? let the normal civilians take that war to them.


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when I think about this story I touch myself


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QUOTE (Oasis @ Mar 10 2008, 09:08 PM) *
when I think about this story I touch myself


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post Mar 10 2008, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 10 2008, 04:01 PM) *
LA is the gang capital of the western hemisphere. i heard a boys and girls club director in long beach say theres a few murders every weekend. after 911 police had to turn from working gangs to anti terrorism investigations even now. since then theres been a gang resurgence in a lot of areas. comparing the number of deaths, loss to the economy, and other criminal activity due to gang related issues versus terrorism in america would be interesting

sad. that father especially got to me


If protecting us from terrorism means a bunch of worthless gangbangers killing each other than so be it.


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post Mar 10 2008, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 10 2008, 09:59 PM) *
If protecting us from terrorism means a bunch of worthless gangbangers killing each other than so be it.

You know that a lot of innocent people are caught in the crossfire of these gang battles, right?

It's really not something to just overlook.


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post Mar 10 2008, 10:47 PM
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i dont think he read the article - which is just one example of many incidents of innocent people being targeted by gangs. not to mention how gangs in a section of town instantly turn it into a dangerous ghetto (suburbs including)


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agreed.


i would support gang on gang violence completely if there wasn't any innocents involved


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post Mar 11 2008, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Mar 10 2008, 10:42 PM) *
You know that a lot of innocent people are caught in the crossfire of these gang battles, right?

It's really not something to just overlook.


Hmmm.

A few people vs. 3000 people .... 30,000 people ... 300,000 people ... hell, maybe even 3,000,000 people...?

I'll take a few.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 11 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Hmmm.

A few people vs. 3000 people .... 30,000 people ... 300,000 people ... hell, maybe even 3,000,000 people...?

I'll take a few.


Hmmm, didn't know America was so dumb-fucked in the head that both areas of crime couldn't be prevented/investigated. I guess you can only focus on one, right?
Ah well. *shrug*


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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Mar 11 2008, 01:45 PM) *
Hmmm, didn't know America was so dumb-fucked in the head that both areas of crime couldn't be prevented/investigated. I guess you can only focus on one, right?
Ah well. *shrug*


If the "focus" on the latter requires that less resources be allocated to the prior, then yes, I will support the latter any day of the week.

Should there ben a dire need for focus and resources allocated to dealing with the prior, then I suggest paying cops more money to make it worth their while and hiring more of them, as well as support from the public in these localities to fund this should they deem this important to them.

Ultimatley, as cold and harsh as this sounds, I look at this in a similar aspect to somone getting in a traffic accident, except the odds of dying because of gang related violence is probably astronomically lower than getting in a car wreck and dying.

Think about it. How likley are you to be killed by a gang member when you're innocent? Probably one HELL of a lot less likley than you are to be killed in a car wreck on your way to work every day .

So does this mean we need to cause mass upheaval and demand from this point on there will be no one killed in a car wreck every again through battle-proofing all vehicles, making every road an 8-lane highway, etc, at the cost of eleventy-billion dollars?

No.

Like I said, it sounds cold and harsh, but stastically speaking, if it's true that preventing terrorism takes resources from preventing gang violence, I'd say prevent terrorism. A few hundred thousand people getting killed vs. a few is a risk I'm sure virtually every american would be willing to take if it all came down to the wire.


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post Mar 11 2008, 06:20 PM
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the terrorism vs. gang violence debate:

how many americans have been hurt as a result of gang activity versus terrorism? i am willing to bet gang activity. so if that is the greater problem then the resources should be kept here in the country working to fix that problem. like some of you have said, the greater the risk/problem/number of deaths is where the money needs to go

and im not about to believe dogmeat was referring to global populations when he was talking about 300,000 people or whatever because i cant imagine he cares (ala he has routinely posted about turning the middle east into glass).

whats the phrase, something like gangs are the american terrorists on american soil or whatever


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 11 2008, 07:46 PM) *
the terrorism vs. gang violence debate:

how many americans have been hurt as a result of gang activity versus terrorism? i am willing to bet gang activity. so if that is the greater problem then the resources should be kept here in the country working to fix that problem. like some of you have said, the greater the risk/problem/number of deaths is where the money needs to go

and im not about to believe dogmeat was referring to global populations when he was talking about 300,000 people or whatever because i cant imagine he cares (ala he has routinely posted about turning the middle east into glass).

whats the phrase, something like gangs are the american terrorists on american soil or whatever


Gangs sell drugs.

Drugs sponsor terrorism.

Let them kill each other while we use our money to attack the source.

I'm sorry, but I stopped feeling sorry for black people in 1992.


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post Mar 12 2008, 07:41 AM
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wow you really are from wyomming! lots of gangs/gang members arent black


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ok, blacks & mexicans
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white people and asians etc


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Ok ok... blacks & mexicans, with a sprinkle on top of asians, and like 3 white people.
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and during my temporary ban i saw yalls signatures somehow (i usually have them turned off), you might want to read and understand that quote of mine in your sig before you think it is what i think you think it is.

unless it really is common that women sit on the toilet backwards, with their stomach facing the wall.
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Gotta say that a lot of gang bangin homies are mexican and black....

Fuck the mexican gang bangers. I hate them more than the black ones.
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 12 2008, 01:00 PM) *
and during my temporary ban i saw yalls signatures somehow (i usually have them turned off), you might want to read and understand that quote of mine in your sig before you think it is what i think you think it is.

unless it really is common that women sit on the toilet backwards, with their stomach facing the wall.
when were you banned?
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eh just the usual thing, sarcastic comment gone wrong, lance prob in a bad mood. bout 10 mins ago.
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oh. fun
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the largest most violent gang in america are made up of south americans. a sprinkle of white people!? have you never ran into an aryan brotherhood member?


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I didn't really think of nazis as gangs but I suppose that makes sense. But there you go again with your favorite word "most" and zero sources. I think you're smokin crack if you think there's going to be equality in the racial breakdown of gangs in America.
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most is true. MS13 is the largest most violent gang in america. look it up yourself i already know my facts.

and the aryan brotherhood and all the other white gangs arent a group of just 4 people


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coulda sworn MS13 was mexicans...


and I already admitted that counting the skinheads makes sense... dunno why you're still tryin to argue that with me.
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 12 2008, 05:27 PM) *
most is true. MS13 is the largest most violent gang in america. look it up yourself i already know my facts.

and the aryan brotherhood and all the other white gangs arent a group of just 4 people



thats because whites do it right. they aren't so much gangs, as organizations. all the same behavior and crime as a gang, but done on a different level


same way a normal guy can get murdered in a street, but a politician is assassinated in the street, there is different names, depending on the level in which it takes place. the guy is still dead, prolly died the same way, but it's done on a different level.

MOST aryan nation groups have chapters, and websites, and organized. i want to see you find me some websites promoting a certain gang's creed's, what they stand for, contact information, all of that. and don't try to pretend some 7th grade wannabe's myspace page will work....


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so gangs need a website to be real?


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 12 2008, 05:35 PM) *
so gangs need a website to be real?



:: slaps forehead ::

gangs don't have websites


aryan brotherhood nations do. THEY AREN'T GANGS, THEY ARE ORGANIZATIONS SIMILAR TO THE KKK AND BLACK PANTHERS.


GANGS.......NOT GANGS.....


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give it up man, she's counting MS13 as white people...
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 12 2008, 05:40 PM) *
give it up man, she's counting MS13 as white people...


ms13 isn't white..... even if she's claiming they are south american..... SOUTH AMERICANS AREN'T WHITE


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when did i say they were white?

brandon honestly i didnt even read your post


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 12 2008, 05:50 PM) *
when did i say they were white?

brandon honestly i didnt even read your post



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