 The power of the sun, on the tip of your pencil |
| The power of the sun, on the tip of your pencil |
 Feb 26 2008, 09:52 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48  |
Saw this thing on HistoryHD last night. Pretty insane. They said that in the billionth of a second that they create a fusion reaction, during that time, they are producing 1000x more power than the entire earth is using in that same time frame. This is the future people.
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Feb 26 2008, 09:59 AM
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 Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
Interesting. I briefly looked through it but didn't see anything on how they planned to control the reaction after the lasers ignite it.
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Feb 26 2008, 11:03 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
this tells about it:
https://lasers.llnl.gov/programs/nif/how_ni...get_chamber.php QUOTE Numerous safety systems are being incorporated into NIF to assure that all experiments can be safely carried out. The neutrons, X-rays and gamma rays generated in a shot can be harmful if not properly controlled. Two-meter-thick concrete walls and doors encase the target bay in a protective shield and absorb most of the emitted radiation energy. Walls of adjacent areas further reduce the energy to safe levels for workers. Although NIF will use very small amounts of tritium in its targets, a tritium processing system is being installed to contain this material and provide a mechanism for its safe disposal. This filter system extracts tritium from the air that has entered the target chamber and deposits it into containers for safe removal. Very small amounts of tritium, deuterium, beryllium and heavy elements are contained in typical targets, and their use must also be strictly controlled. Several subsystems are being implemented to monitor, control, clean up and properly dispose of all components which may have traces of these materials deposited on them after an experiment. recommend reading that whole page though, every interesting. |
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Feb 26 2008, 11:03 AM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
That's pretty cool.
-------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM)  Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 26 2008, 11:28 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
A power plant could use this to generate energy and put it out on the grid, but it's not the future.
In the future everyone will be living OFF the grid and generating their own power at home either through Solar energy or some other method. Everyone will have a miniature power-plant in/on their home, and I don't see this being mass-marketed like I do Solar energy. |
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Feb 26 2008, 11:37 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
That would be cool too. As soon as they have solar panels that will give me 200A service I'm in. Or hell, just have them finish up this fusion stuff, and then miniaturize it
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Feb 26 2008, 11:39 AM
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 START THE REACTOR! Group: Members Posts: 874 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (Watchman @ Feb 26 2008, 11:28 AM) A power plant could use this to generate energy and put it out on the grid, but it's not the future. In the future everyone will be living OFF the grid and generating their own power at home either through Solar energy or some other method. Everyone will have a miniature power-plant in/on their home, and I don't see this being mass-marketed like I do Solar energy. That's a stupid utopian dream when you consider that coal fired plant down the way could be replaced with a "mini-sun" plant with no major rework to the electrical system or direct cost to the consumer in the form of reworking each individual home. I hate to break the news, but in the future, everyone is going to be just as cheap and lazy as they are now, unless some massive event happens that forces people to live off-grid then there is no reason to believe people will change. Edit: and honestly, I don't want my inept illegal immigrant neighbors to have any sort of powerplant in their house. Nothing like a huge unmaintained fire hazard barely chugging along next door to really make me feel safe. -------------------- FUCK YOU
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Feb 26 2008, 01:21 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
IN THE FUTURE WE WILL BE DAMN GREATFUL WE HAVE 4 WALLS AND A FIRE TO COOK OUR CANNED SPAM ON, AND WE WILL ALL BE DAMN GREATFUL THAT BRANDON HOBGOOD SAVED US ALL FROM CERTAIN DEATH!
--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Feb 26 2008, 01:27 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 26 2008, 11:37 AM) That would be cool too. As soon as they have solar panels that will give me 200A service I'm in. Or hell, just have them finish up this fusion stuff, and then miniaturize it Yeah either way. And solar panels are getting cheaper and more efficient by the month. It's almost at the verge of being fit for mass adoption. |
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Feb 26 2008, 01:28 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE (rabble @ Feb 26 2008, 11:39 AM) That's a stupid utopian dream when you consider that coal fired plant down the way could be replaced with a "mini-sun" plant with no major rework to the electrical system or direct cost to the consumer in the form of reworking each individual home. I hate to break the news, but in the future, everyone is going to be just as cheap and lazy as they are now, unless some massive event happens that forces people to live off-grid then there is no reason to believe people will change. Edit: and honestly, I don't want my inept illegal immigrant neighbors to have any sort of powerplant in their house. Nothing like a huge unmaintained fire hazard barely chugging along next door to really make me feel safe. Being a slave to the power company and paying 150 bucks a month like usual, or coughing up 10k for a solar panel set-up and never paying electricity bills again... I think most sane people would choose the solar panels. Thanks for playing though. I remember a time when AT&T thought that no one would have a personal PC in their own home and instead would farm out their computing needs to massive supercomputers housed by AT&T on a "computing grid"... and we all know how well that worked out. Idiot. |
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Feb 26 2008, 02:47 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Screw all that, we just need to harness the power of pistol shrimp!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc -------------------- |
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Feb 26 2008, 04:27 PM
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 Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 26 2008, 02:47 PM) Screw all that, we just need to harness the power of pistol shrimp! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc pistol shrimp. the assassin of the animal kingdom. more deadly than the dreaded stingray. uglier than the chunder inducing lungfish. more lopsided than a swollen testicle after a heavy session of CBT. -------------------- 32-bit whore
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Feb 26 2008, 04:28 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
Haha, how could I have never heard of those before?
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Feb 26 2008, 04:46 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I love this comment on the vid:
QUOTE shrimp's shooting his pistol sideways, wat a thug
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Feb 26 2008, 04:47 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (Watchman @ Feb 26 2008, 04:28 PM) Haha, how could I have never heard of those before? Because they are like the ninja. Very secretive and very deadly. 
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Feb 26 2008, 05:26 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Lance, you are assuming that human are rational actors. The truth is power companies have too much to lose if everyone decided to go off the grid. So they will do everything in their power to stop and discourage a move to private household power production and use. Plus it is a lot more convenient to pay $150 a month for electricity than to buy, install, and maintain solar panels. I actually see a middle ground in that power companies may use households to generate power and rent out the solar panels. That is the true future of power generating.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Feb 26 2008, 05:49 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Someday...I will own a mountain home.
-Solar panels -Wind vanes -Cistern off-the-grid++ (or on the grid, but overgenerating and getting checks FROM the power company  )
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Feb 26 2008, 08:09 PM
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START THE REACTOR! Group: Members Posts: 874 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (Watchman @ Feb 26 2008, 01:28 PM) Being a slave to the power company and paying 150 bucks a month like usual, or coughing up 10k for a solar panel set-up and never paying electricity bills again... I think most sane people would choose the solar panels. Thanks for playing though. I remember a time when AT&T thought that no one would have a personal PC in their own home and instead would farm out their computing needs to massive supercomputers housed by AT&T on a "computing grid"... and we all know how well that worked out. Idiot. Isn't this just the internet? -------------------- FUCK YOU
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Feb 27 2008, 12:59 AM
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 Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
Well, what are we going to do at night? The coulomb capacitance isn't too great for any type of battery we have.
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Feb 27 2008, 08:04 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I'm posting in this thread so I feel smart
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