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[Dogmeat]

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/whites_mi...2/11/71928.html

Whites to Become Minority in U.S. by 2050

Monday, February 11, 2008 9:20 PM

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WASHINGTON -- Non-Hispanic whites will become a minority in the United States by 2050, with immigrants and their children driving 82 percent of U.S. population growth in coming years, a new study said on Monday.


The U.S. population will grow to 438 million in 2050 from 296 million in 2005 if current population trends continue, the Pew Research Center study found.


Non-Hispanic whites would account for 47 percent of the total in 2050, it concluded.


By that time, one in every five Americans will be a foreign-born immigrant, compared to one in eight in 2005.


"Of the 117 million people added to the population in this period due to the effect of new immigration, 67 million will be the immigrants themselves and 50 million will be their U.S.-born children or grandchildren," the study said.


While the white population, with its lower fertility rate, ages, the Latino population, the nation's largest minority, will triple in size. Latinos will be responsible for 60 percent of the population growth until 2050.


They will account for 29 percent of the population, or 128 million in 2050, up from 14 percent now, the study said.


"The number of whites will increase, but only by 4 percent," said D'Vera Cohn, one of the report's authors.


The Asian population will almost double in percentage terms, from 5 to 9 percent, while blacks will remain around 13 percent of the total, the report said.


At the same time, the elderly population will more than double as the baby boom generation retires. The number of children and working-age people will grow more slowly.


Almost half of the new immigrants arriving the country will be from Latin American countries, said the other author of the study, Jeffrey S. Passel from the Pew Hispanic Center.

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Do you think maybe if we cease government-funded welfare programs now we can stem this tide?

[impala454]

I'm a little confused by the article... they say that in 2050:

1. Whites will be approx 205 of 438 million (47%)
2. Hispanics will be approx 128 of 438 million (29%)
3. Blacks will be approx 57 of 438 million (13%)

Someone explain to me how whites would still be the minority given these numbers... I understand that whites will be less than 50%, but there will still be far more whites than any other.

[The Fanatic]

The article title is misleading. While the whites will not have the majority of the population they will account for the largest percentile. Basically, the native population is kicking out the white man(well kind of).


catholicism

This post has been edited by The Fanatic: Feb 12 2008, 02:15 AM

[impala454]

are you trying to say mexicans are native to america?!?

[pebkac]

are you trying to say mexicans are native to america?!?

Most Mexicans have some Indian blood in them, so I suppose that could be true in a roundabout way.

[impala454]

they're not any more native to America than the rest of us.

[blaarg]

yes the article is misleading.

but regardless, if there is ever a chance that whites would not be a majority, we would cut off immigration years before.

[Hartmann]

yes the article is misleading.

but regardless, if there is ever a chance that whites would not be a majority, we would cut off immigration years before.

That's a fairly large assumption. Are you white? Do you expect us to cut off immigration?

[Testm0nkey]

eh if whites ever become a minority then mixtures of races will be or would-be-soon-to-be the majority imo. so theres no "threat" involved in my mind. maybe just a more progressive, democratic government as everyone bleeeends

i dont take it as a "threat" to american culture either. i dont think thatll ever happen

[Spectatrix]

Who cares? Race isn't important -- attitude/ambition is.

[Hartmann]

Who cares? Race isn't important -- attitude/ambition is.

I agree. I was just asking his/her race to find out what side of the spectrum they were coming from. If a white person was making the argument that immigration would be cut off is different than a non-white person making the argument (at least to me).

[Spectatrix]

Oh my post was just a general reaction to this thread, not responding to anyone in particular.

[Testm0nkey]

well i can understand the "threat" though i dont think itll ever happen like this. but say in some world America became a suburb for Mexico. mexicans were the majority or even the vast majority. then probably a mexican or mexican american would be president and then maybe a lot of America's money, funding, support would go to mexico and typical white people would be like whaaat!? noooo

again not saying that mexico DOESNT need a lot of aid

[FORSAKENR320]

Who cares? Race isn't important -- attitude/ambition is.

i read an article that i can't seem to find... in 2020 because of uneducated immigrants migrating into texas, for the first time in history texas will have substandard education.

(i assumed from the article that texas has always had above average education)

that is what scares the hell outta me. i am proud of this state, the one thing i do not want to happen is for it to be invaded and overrun by a dumber species of human simply because they breed quicker. (and yes, i understand that this is usually how species of animals go extinct)

[Testm0nkey]

animal species with longer periods of gestation and single births (they typically go hand in hand) are at higher risks of extinction then those that dont ie. animals that breed quicker. unless you meant whites as the animals that would get extincted!

[blaarg]

That's a fairly large assumption. Are you white? Do you expect us to cut off immigration?

yes I'm white but I don't think that has anything to do about it.
I just think it will happen just because racism is still alive and the "powers to be" wouldn't let it happen because of that reason.
Just a reaction to present day observations.

[blaarg]

I agree. I was just asking his/her race to find out what side of the spectrum they were coming from. If a white person was making the argument that immigration would be cut off is different than a non-white person making the argument (at least to me).

why would it be different? If anything a non-white person would probably come to the same conclusions because of their own personal oppressions...they would understand that racism is still around and that the whites in power wouldn't let it happen...

[FORSAKENR320]

animal species with longer periods of gestation and single births (they typically go hand in hand) are at higher risks of extinction then those that dont ie. animals that breed quicker. unless you meant whites as the animals that would get extincted!

i was refering more to the idea that people who are smarter tend to reproduce less (1-2 children) but the poor and uneducated tend to reproduce way more.

my implication was that smart people are getting bred out and are gonna go extinct.

but yes, the whites in this scenario are ones getting extincted.

[Hartmann]

why would it be different? If anything a non-white person would probably come to the same conclusions because of their own personal oppressions...they would understand that racism is still around and that the whites in power wouldn't let it happen...

I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration.

In that case, is every person going to Europe or Australia to assume that the whites run the government?

[FORSAKENR320]

I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration.

In that case, is every person going to Europe or Australia to assume that the whites run the government?

i think non-rascist people still like to play the race card when it's convieniant for them

/random

[blaarg]

I just think that people would have enough common sense to understand that your point is overblown. Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration.

Ok by whites in power I mean the elites (which are mostly whites).

I don't think it is overblow at all. Almost every single advanced country is having an immigration problem which is a big deal. With us it is Mexicans. Here in Scandinavia it's Muslims. Every country wants to protect/enforce some sort of cultural hegemony, and when the dominant class becomes a minority they can't do it as effictively. That's why Scandinavians are considering curbing immigration drastically (because of the recent influx) and that's why we would curb it and most likely stop it completely if we are ever in a type of position the article mentions.

Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century...

[FORSAKENR320]

Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century...

and we saw just how effective that was...

[FORSAKENR320]

get me the Great Wall of Texas, arm it with motorized Phalinx unit gatling guns, and create a law where "illegal immigrants have NO rights on american soil. (that'd make a nice "shoot on site" clause and get alot of our bored idle handed rednecks to make a border militia and have some target practice.

i see it that america is being invaded. and i want it stopped

[Hartmann]

Ok by whites in power I mean the elites (which are mostly whites).

I don't think it is overblow at all. Almost every single advanced country is having an immigration problem which is a big deal. With us it is Mexicans. Here in Scandinavia it's Muslims. Every country wants to protect/enforce some sort of cultural hegemony, and when the dominant class becomes a minority they can't do it as effictively. That's why Scandinavians are considering curbing immigration drastically (because of the recent influx) and that's why we would curb it and most likely stop it completely if we are ever in a type of position the article mentions.

Hell, we've already done it once in our history at the turn of the 20th century...

Hence my other thread about the west.

Scandinavia also enforces their immigration laws pretty heavily so they have a head start.

[blaarg]

and we saw just how effective that was...

regardless, the immigration levels were SIGNIFICANTLY less (proportionately) than what they are now and we were still motivated to curb/cut immigration.

I stand by my statement, we would completely ban immigration if were in a situation like the article mentions. The government would never let it happen, I guarantee it.

[FORSAKENR320]

regardless, the immigration levels were SIGNIFICANTLY less (proportionately) than what they are now and we were still motivated to curb/cut immigration.

I stand by my statement, we would completely ban immigration if were in a situation like the article mentions. The government would never let it happen, I guarantee it.

wasn't there several mentions of bush approving of immigration or something? i can't fully remember and i'm not arguing with you on that point, i just wish that i remembered where those arguements were

[Testm0nkey]

he was supporting the work visa thing. i dont know what happened to that. and i thought he was supporting the amnesty for current illegals and their families?

[FORSAKENR320]

he was supporting the work visa thing. i dont know what happened to that. and i thought he was supporting the amnesty for current illegals and their families?

yea! i think you are right. my point of that is... when the government thinks that the immigrants are a good idea, what are the odds they will actually do what you say? blaarq?

don't get me wrong, i support immigration, but it better be damn legal. mooching assbags

[pebkac]

Yes there is racism but my friends of other nationalities don't think "whites in power" when I ask them about our government and immigration.

You've obviously never met my boyfriend.

[off topic story]
One time we went to Souper Salads. Of course I have to put a lot of meat and cheese on a salad to enjoy eating it. When I went back to the table, he took one look at it and said "That looks like a White Man's salad to me."
[/off topic story]

[Testm0nkey]

souper salad is the best

[Mommy]

god i miss that place.

[chook]

yeah for Cathoception!