Oct 3 2007, 04:03 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/news/2007090...arent-diagnosed
Turns out that it may not be as overdiagnosed as we think... -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:22 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yeah... or it could be that mommy and daddy don't slap the shit outta the kid when they're doin stupid shit or not paying attention.
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Oct 3 2007, 05:11 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
yeah... or it could be that mommy and daddy don't slap the shit outta the kid when they're doin stupid shit or not paying attention. Or it could be a chemical imbalance in the child's brain... -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:13 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:23 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
i was diagnosed with ADHD in the past but how do they expect someone with ADHD to take their medication?!
that always baffled me article makes sense -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 3 2007, 05:25 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
this article doesn't give you justification to claim having add. I don't recall claiming to have ADD... -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 3 2007, 07:43 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
there is a slight validity to the argument that it's a chemical change...
i heard something that it could be the change in what we eat...we eat a lot of cheapened food products with a lot of strange chemicals but i think the reason is that people don't understand the emotional stresses and changes their children are going through in today's society... they go to a doctor because of a child's attitude and have no clue if their child really is suffering from anything... and doctor's get kickbacks on medication they subscribe...especially ADHD drugs -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Oct 3 2007, 07:52 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
It is a chemical thing in the brain. Thats already been shown
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Oct 3 2007, 07:55 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
just means you gotta slap em harder
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Oct 3 2007, 10:29 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 30-September 07 Member No.: 2,514 |
Or it could mean the child is bored out of their freaking little mind.
And their teacher sux. Sux big monkey balls. Big, hairy monkey balls. Cause thats what some teachers do. They sux. And the teacher doesn't want to deal with the child and so she tyies to label them as having ADD. Happened to my nephew. All because his teacher sux. To tell the truth I can understand treatment, but the drugs simply zombify people from what I've seen. If Largo entered a clinic with ritalin junkies he would try to kill them all as zombies. (No offense meant Glen). I worked with a guy named will who took his meds on the weekdays for school. But he was so much fucking fun on the weekends. He wasn't out of control, just not stupified by the meds. So I really am not sure if I believe in all of the millions of kids have ADD bit, even with their clinical test numbers. After all, as I beleive Mark Twain said, there are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics. -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2007, 10:39 PM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
Here is my 2 cents.
I have seen kids with ADD and kids diagnosed with ADD. A lot of kids ive seen who are diagnosed (but really only acting their age) are really bored....they dont pay attention in class because its TOO FUCKING EASY for them (thank you dumbed down standards). The kids who HAVE ADD need help, particularly the kids with legit ADHD, because my experience with them is that they are also somewhat emotionally disturbed (a lot of times because their parents "hit them harder" as impala put it)...... do some of these kids just need better discipline? (not more beating, but overall good parents who pay attention to whats going on with their kids) YES. Do they need better teachers? maybe....more than that they need better administrators who set up the curriculum to work the best with all the kids. It also needs to be remembered that for all the kids who DONT have ADD, but have ritalin/aderal/etc, there are also kids who DO need it, but their parents are too much of dumbshits to do anything about it because they are convinced their kids just need more beatings. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Oct 4 2007, 12:06 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well i go to a public place, say a restaurant, and see a young family. say they have a 5 year old boy. I will see crap like the kid standing on the seat and squirmin around and yelling and actin like a lil punk and disturbing people sittin next to him, while the parents just sit there and carry on a conversation, completely ignoring the kid. imho it's stuff like this that causes kids to end up this way.
if i'd have been doin that kinda crap when i was 5, my parents woulda turned and told me to shut up and sit still. and if i didn't do it they'd get that parent look and warn that they'd spank me when we got home if i didn't quit acting up, and that was usually enough. and they did spank me if i was bad enough. but nowadays if you spank a kid you can have all hell break loose and end up with child abuse charges (another grand piece of the further pussification of america). |
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Oct 4 2007, 12:23 AM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
i agree with you on that, on the pussification of America and all. But that is just an example of shitty parenting. It has nothing to do with ADD other than that. Sure you cant spank a kid in public, but you can sure as hell straighten em out at the car. A lot of times what worked best for my nephew, take the power chords from their ps, and the cable off the tv. He would act up like crazy even if you beat his ass, because his parents (my brother and his wife....both shitty parents) overused it. But you take away a kids playstation and he listens real quick.....really the big problem is that too many parents put up with stupid shit when the kid is young and doesnt know better.
Also....young children should not be allowed in most public places.....but thats just me. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Oct 4 2007, 12:28 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well what i meant in regards to the ADD is that, whether or not there's a chemical imbalance, the way kids are gettin raised nowadays, they're taught that ignoring authority is ok. and the amount of discipline (one of those great lil things you tend to need to have to do well in school) is plummeting like a rock.
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Oct 4 2007, 10:39 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
how many of you have experience working with young children or have children of your own?
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