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post Sep 1 2007, 07:58 PM
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Craig's resigning

My favorite part of the article is this last part:

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Craig also was an opponent of expanding the rights of gay Americans, a stance that drew charges of hypocrisy from gay rights advocates after his arrest became public. He has supported a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and opposed extending a federal hate-crime law to cover violent acts based on a victim's sexual orientation.


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post Sep 1 2007, 08:29 PM
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Fantastic!


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That karma will get get you every time.


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post Sep 2 2007, 08:16 PM
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireSto...1012&page=1

Uh huh. So Craig (a senator from a state with a Republican governor) gets prodded out of office for something that's questionable at best. Meanwhile David Vitter (a senator from a state with a Democrat governor who would theoretically replace him with a Democrat) gets to stay in office after getting caught with prostitutes.

Politics and double standards ahoy!


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post Sep 2 2007, 08:28 PM
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i wouldn't call it a political double standard. I would place that one in the "better press team/spin doctors" category.

It's all about how fast you can spin, and in what direction.


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post Sep 2 2007, 11:33 PM
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seriously, how many Craig threads are we going to have?


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post Sep 2 2007, 11:52 PM
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post Sep 4 2007, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Sep 2 2007, 09:28 PM) *
i wouldn't call it a political double standard. I would place that one in the "better press team/spin doctors" category.

It's all about how fast you can spin, and in what direction.


I disagree...I think it is a double-standard....they're saying...."it's ok to have extramarital affairs and solicit prostitutes, but being gay is NOT allowed" I think if Craig had to resign for this, then Vitter should also be forced to resign for his little scandal.
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post Sep 5 2007, 08:40 AM
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Craig reconsiders resignation, Republicans cry "no backsies!"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/05/craig/index.html


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post Sep 5 2007, 09:01 AM
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gah i wish he'd just either resign or not resign... gettin so sick of hearin about this on the news
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post Sep 5 2007, 11:09 AM
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Agreed. It's really just hurting his case. The best thing he could do is just come out of the closet and come clean. But that would probably be a very bad idea politically.


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post Sep 5 2007, 03:22 PM
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God, he's like herpes! The gift that keeps on giving, but you don't want!

I find it awfully odd that he ACCIDENTALLY left that voicemail on a stranger's voicemail. Wouldn't the lawyer's mailbox say his full name? Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

BTW, supposedly Michael Vick's lawyer has been hired by Craig.
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post Sep 6 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 4 2007, 02:32 PM) *
I disagree...I think it is a double-standard....they're saying...."it's ok to have extramarital affairs and solicit prostitutes, but being gay is NOT allowed" I think if Craig had to resign for this, then Vitter should also be forced to resign for his little scandal.

extramarital affairs cant really be equated with sexually harrassing unsuspecting males in public restrooms. so, no, its not a double standard.
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post Sep 6 2007, 12:24 AM
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Here is an excerpt from an Austin American Statesman article that ran last week. Its by a columnist named John Kelso. I love his writing. This article had me rolling on the floor... Too bad I cant copy and paste the whole thing without signing up for an online subscription. If i can find the article in my room, I'll scan it though.

Travel warning: Senators could be in the bathrooms

Air travel is inconvenient enough without having to worry about the Republicans in the men's room. It's one thing to have to take off your shoes while you're going through security. It's another to have a Republican taking off his pants in the bathroom.

Take the case of Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho, who pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct after a cop accused him of soliciting sex in a public men's room...



I have really gotten into Kelso lately... he is awesome
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post Sep 6 2007, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 6 2007, 01:18 AM) *
extramarital affairs cant really be equated with sexually harrassing unsuspecting males in public restrooms. so, no, its not a double standard.


If sexually harassing means attempting to engage in a totally consensual act, ok. The only reason it was illegal was that Craig theoretically wanted to have sex in a public restroom.


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post Sep 6 2007, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 6 2007, 01:18 AM) *
extramarital affairs cant really be equated with sexually harrassing unsuspecting males in public restrooms. so, no, its not a double standard.


I dont think you read what i wrote....

its not the sexual harrassment thats being equated....it's the fact that it's been OTHER MEN who he's been engaging in sex with that makes it the double standard.

They're wanting him gone because he's having sex with men(sticking him in the league with us gays). They could care less about Vitter because he was having sex with women...prostitutes, but women. The double standard lies in that right there.
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