College Democrats of America Convention, Ummm... I guess this can go in here. Options

[Melanie]

Since it's politics, it's here!

Anyone going from Texas Tech? It's in South Carolina this year and should be fun. Texas College Dems rented a van and we're heading up there tomorrow afternoon.

Just wanted to see if anyone would be there.

[Oasis]

No.

[Seeker]

Melanie, I think you should look into the Libertarian party... the Democrats are not what they used to be and they're not what they market themselves as today. They're not the party for the poor or minorities anymore.

10 - 20 years ago I would have voted Democrat, but not today. Republicans and Democrats are the same exact party with different spins.

Libertarians are they only party that actually supports the constitution.

This is Lance BTW.

[Melanie]

Alright Senator Gravel. (Kidding).

But I was born and raised a Democrat. I love what the party stands for. It still does stand for the union worker and minority. Go look up the votes that Congressman Ciro D. Rodriguez made and those will prove that there are Democrats still working hard for the hardworking people of the United States.

Oh, and I'll be there! I'll be with the Texas Delegation and CDA Executive Council. :-)

[Seeker]

In the 2004 election you thought you had a choice between Democrats and Republicans, Kerry and Bush, but both were members of the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale... both preached the same policies except with a different spin to fool the American public.

People threw the Republicans out of Congress because the Democrats said they would get us out of the war. Have they done that? No, because they don't want us out of the war... they're Republicans.

Just because you were born and raised Democrat doesn't mean you have to keep on being a Democrat. If my party continually lied to me and continually abused the Constitution just like the Republicans do I would switch parties.

Below are a list of candidates that HAVE attended a CFR (Council on Foregin Relations) meeting which is part of the Illuminati/New World Order. A vote for any of the candidates below will mean more of the same Bush-like policies, continued war-fare, less freedom, destruction of the Bill of Rights, devaluation of the American dollar, and the eventual merging of America, Canada, and Mexico into one nation like the E.U through the SPP (Security & Prosperity Partnership... research it).

Fred Thompson
Obama
Romney
McCain
Rudy
Gilmore
Newt
Hillary
Edwards
Dodd
Richardson

Vote wisely, think for yourself, don't swallow everything one party says hook like and sinker, research and look into everything you'll be surprised what you find. Avoid any candidate on that list and support any candidate that is not (such as Ron Paul and Mike Gravel).

[impala454]

[cupcake]

the two words "college" and "democrats" coupled together in such a fashion as to be a compound, almost proper, noun... "College Democrat" ...conjures images of those who are just educated and experienced enough to embrace a very naive and wholly unviable approach to life.

more specifically...I think of 'enlightened' LUG* lacrosse players and guys who'd rather eat whey and soy than bloody their hands on an animal because they respect the right of all sentient beings to live and prosper.

No...I do not think I will be attending.


*Lesbian Until Graduation

[James]

Unions promote mediocrity. What's good about that again?

The minority isn't going to be a minority in a few years if we don't close the damn borders.

Lance, sometimes you sound ok, but then you bust out that conspiracy junk and just ruin it for me. Conspiracy induces skepticism.

Dessert man, right again.

[moebary]

hahaha

and no

[Testm0nkey]

unions are killing america

though i am a democrat. cupcake your post reaks of flatulance

[Seeker]

There's nothing wrongs with unions, they protect workers from being taken advantage of by employers. There's always a fine line though and when the unions get more powerful than the employer the unions can destroy the business. It's a balancing act which hardly anyone ever gets right.

With that said, I support Unions.

[Melanie]

I like being a Democrat and I just wanted to know if anyone would be there. We're trying to get Texas Tech truly established with College Dems since the chapter went inactive in recent years.

[cupcake]

unions are killing america

though i am a democrat. cupcake your post reaks of flatulance

ok

[Divergent Realit...]

ok

man, thats a fucked up capri sun.

[cupcake]

ha

[Billy]

But I was born and raised a Democrat.

And this is why no other party will ever win an election other than democrat or republican. I promise, your situation is not unique.

[chook]

two places i worked with unions, they are counter productive and cause companies to go overseas. They do have a purpose sometime.

[jonathan83]

People threw the Republicans out of Congress because the Democrats said they would get us out of the war. Have they done that? No, because they don't want us out of the war... they're Republicans.

wait, are you saying Democrats are now Republicans?

[James]

I deny Lance's reality! They are definitely not Republicans. They may be traitors to the Democrats, but as a Republican, I refuse to accept them into my group

[GOB]

wait, are you saying Democrats are now Republicans?

does it really matter? they're all the exact same person.

[impala454]

it's not like the Republicans were "thrown" out of congress. The numbers only swayed by a couple of people.

[pysex]

they all suck

[Dogmeat]

DEATH TO DEMOCRATS!!!!

but especially, death to idiot fucktard lame ass naive as hell college democrats who are too stupid to live. Those are the WORST kinds of democrats, because they grow up to be even BIGGER democrats!

DIE DIE DIE!!!!!

[Melanie]

Just got back from CDA... It was a blast! I got to meet Senator Obama (again), Senator Clinton, Senator Edwards, and a whole bunch of other awesome people, but those three were the shit!

A lot of other crap happened, but the convention itself was awesome. And I got to walk around the beautiful city of Columbia, it was amazing.

[Dogmeat]

Just got back from CDA... It was a blast! I got to meet Senator Obama (again), Senator Clinton, Senator Edwards, and a whole bunch of other awesome people, but those three were the shit!

A lot of other crap happened, but the convention itself was awesome. And I got to walk around the beautiful city of Columbia, it was amazing.

Thank you for supporting the selling out of America! We appreciate your help!

--Democrats.

[Oasis]

Just got back from CDA... It was a blast! I got to meet Senator Obama (again), Senator Clinton, Senator Edwards, and a whole bunch of other awesome people, but those three were the shit!

I seriously fucking hope you're joking.

[Seeker]

Voting for Dems and Repubs at the local level is fine... because they usually don't sell out to lobbyists until they get elected to governor of a state or to some Federal/National position within Congress.

On the National level vote LIBERTARIAN.

[Seeker]

Obama, Clinton, and Edwards are major Illuminati shills.

[The Fanatic]

The only electoral choice you have in the American "democratic" system is the illusion of choice. Candidates preach the same spinned ambiguous policy for America, claiming that they will bring about prosperity and hope to a nation in its twilight. America is enslaved by the power of the sound byte laced with fear and naive lies. As long as the American two party system is manipulated by third party interests and lobbyists, power will be out of the hands of the American people. That being said, while unions to offer certain benefits to employees such as better wages and working conditions, they also tend to become huge corrupt bureaucracies.

[impala454]

it's not an illusion of choice at all. you choose the people that make the decisions. if you make the wrong choice for that person, it's your own damn fault.

[FORSAKENR320]

The only electoral choice you have in the American "democratic" system is the illusion of choice. Candidates preach the same spinned ambiguous policy for America, claiming that they will bring about prosperity and hope to a nation in its twilight. America is enslaved by the power of the sound byte laced with fear and naive lies. As long as the American two party system is manipulated by third party interests and lobbyists, power will be out of the hands of the American people. That being said, while unions to offer certain benefits to employees such as better wages and working conditions, they also tend to become huge corrupt bureaucracies.

power corrupts and total power corrupts totally

[cupcake]

The only electoral choice you have in the American "democratic" system is the illusion of choice. Candidates preach the same spinned ambiguous policy for America, claiming that they will bring about prosperity and hope to a nation in its twilight. America is enslaved by the power of the sound byte laced with fear and naive lies. As long as the American two party system is manipulated by third party interests and lobbyists, power will be out of the hands of the American people. That being said, while unions to offer certain benefits to employees such as better wages and working conditions, they also tend to become huge corrupt bureaucracies.

that sweet ass juggernaut speaks the truth...

[Melanie]

it's not an illusion of choice at all. you choose the people that make the decisions. if you make the wrong choice for that person, it's your own damn fault.

Thank you very much! That's exactly how I feel.

And those three are FANTASTIC public speakers. STFU. Have you ever been able to actually have a one on one convo with them? No. So hush!

[FORSAKENR320]

Thank you very much! That's exactly how I feel.

And those three are FANTASTIC public speakers. STFU. Have you ever been able to actually have a one on one convo with them? No. So hush!

silver tongues don't give you intelligence

[The Fanatic]

it's not an illusion of choice at all. you choose the people that make the decisions. if you make the wrong choice for that person, it's your own damn fault.

You did not read nor comprehend what I posted. There is an illusion of choice because there is no choice.

[Seeker]

don't bother explaining it, you could drill something into impalas skull with a jackhammer and he still wouldn't get it

if you somehow weave your unrelated point into something semi pro-microsoft he might buy it

[impala454]

You guys just simply don't understand the electoral system I guess. Maybe go back to jr high and pay attention in social studies this time?

democracy != every person in the country votes on every single issue that comes up for legislation.

[The Fanatic]

You guys just simply don't understand the electoral system I guess. Maybe go back to jr high and pay attention in social studies this time?

democracy != every person in the country votes on every single issue that comes up for legislation.

You need to learn that not everyone agrees with you. It has been and will always be pointless to attempt any semblance of rational conversation with a brick wall.

[impala454]

You need to learn that not everyone agrees with you. It has been and will always be pointless to attempt any semblance of rational conversation with a brick wall.

So you don't agree with me that in this country, you vote for people who make decisions?

[impala454]

silver tongues don't give you intelligence

and poor public speaking ability doesn't mean your stupid. (*cough* bush haters *cough*)

[Spectatrix]

So you don't agree with me that in this country, you vote for people who make decisions?

I don't think that's Spivey's argument. I think he's arguing that the "illusion of choice" is there because the two parties are very similar. I would argue that, while they're not THAT similar, the choice is an illusion because things only get done when the issue is something the two parties agree on; if they're at odds on it, they get deadlocked and nothing gets done one way or the other. This problem is exacerbated in a two-party system because candidates get more or less locked into one set of stances in order to appeal to the broader party base, regardless of how their personal views might differ. There is some fluctuation due to the preferences of their local constituents, but they still usually don't diverge much from the party line.

[impala454]

Right, but the only reason we have the two party system in the first place is because that's how the people themselves vote. There are several other parties and affiliations we have to choose from. It's not an illusion of choice, it's the choice that we as a population make.

[Melanie]

heh I just wanted to know if anyone was going to CDA. I'm sorry. :-(

And I'm ok with my Republican brothas. At Texas State, College Democrats and College Republicans have learned to coexist and even throw parties with one another. Maybe San Marcos is the black hole of Texas?

[Spectatrix]

Maybe San Marcos is the black hole of Texas?

I like San Marcos and I like black holes, yet this irritates me for some reason...

[Melanie]

I like San Marcos and I like black holes, yet this irritates me for some reason...

I love San Marcos. I'm just saying that we're one of only a few places where Democrats and Republicans aren't trying to poison each other... with the exception of Rick Green throwing punches at State Representative Patrick Rose in the middle of a church parking lot. He's crazy.

[THECHICKEN]

The whole point our system of government is to make things hard to pass as law. Its the ultimate minority protector on paper because at any point in the process someone can prevent something from becoming law (president, and the two congressional branches having equal power all can fight each other).

So the "illusion of choice" is kind of the point in a way (for good and bad reasons).

However, the problem today is that republicans or democrats = same shit, different ass hole.

[Dogmeat]

democrats need to kill themselves until they're dead, especialy all the ones running for president right now.

[Spectatrix]

The whole point our system of government is to make things hard to pass as law. Its the ultimate minority protector on paper because at any point in the process someone can prevent something from becoming law (president, and the two congressional branches having equal power all can fight each other).

So the "illusion of choice" is kind of the point in a way (for good and bad reasons).

However, the problem today is that republicans or democrats = same shit, different ass hole.

Well yeah, checks and balances and all that fun stuff. I agree that we don't want them getting TOO runaway with legislation. It just seems to me that the only stuff they agree on (and thus nearly the only stuff that gets passed) is stupid shit.