 Bear Grylls Vs. Survivorman |
| Bear Grylls Vs. Survivorman |
 Jul 2 2007, 04:42 PM
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Here is the summaries of each from Wikipedia:
QUOTE Les Stroud (Born October 20, 1962 in Mimico, Ontario[1][2]) is a Canadian musician, film maker, and survival enthusiast best known as the host of the television program Survivorman. After a short career behind the scenes in the music industry, Stroud became a full-time wilderness guide, survival instructor and musician based in Huntsville, Ontario. Stroud has produced survival-themed programming for The Outdoor Life Network, The Discovery Channel, and The Science Channel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Stroud QUOTE Bear Grylls (born 7 June 1974) is a British mountaineer and adventurer as well as best-selling author, television presenter, and international motivational speaker. Grylls, a former member of the British Special Forces, made his name by becoming, at the age of 23, the youngest Briton to climb Mount Everest and return alive in 1998. He hosts the television programme Born Survivor: Bear Grylls (also known as Man vs. Wild on the Discovery Channel worldwide and Channel 4 in the UK). He was formerly the host of the television show, Escape to the Legion which was also on Channel 4 in the UK & on the Military Channel. Grylls is currently filming new HD episodes of the born survivor series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jul 2 2007, 04:47 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
Bear. I think I saw Survivorman once and didn't like it so much. I saw someone mention in asdf how Bear makes everything seem too easy; that's a good thing - you want it to seem easy to bring stress levels down and give you the mentality of "I can do that!" I would venture to guess that the greatest enemy to survival is pessimism. If you think you can do anything, then you can do anything.
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Jul 2 2007, 05:16 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
bear is hot and has pretty much one of the most impressive backgrounds
 seriously stroke against him through, he named one of his kids marmaduke -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Jul 2 2007, 05:22 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
LOL. Marmaduke. I wanna name a dog that now. Sounds cool.
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Jul 2 2007, 07:19 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Bear by a million miles.
He utilizes simplified and proven survival techniques, many pulled from native practices. -------------------- |
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Jul 2 2007, 09:36 PM
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who would you rather have if you were stranded in the wilderness:
1) Guy who was in the british special forces for 3 years, and has climbed mt everest. 2) Guy who has been a wilderness guide for over 20 years, and has been a survival instructor for 13 years, as well as had experience living out in the wilderness for as long as a year with almost no contact with the outside world. I suppose who is the "bigger badass" is up for debate, but who is the better survivalist is pretty obvious. especially considering he films his own show, whereas the other guy has a crew with him (no doubt with a full contingent of gear and food). |
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Jul 3 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 2 2007, 10:36 PM)  who would you rather have if you were stranded in the wilderness: 1) Guy who was in the british special forces for 3 years, and has climbed mt everest. 2) Guy who has been a wilderness guide for over 20 years, and has been a survival instructor for 13 years, as well as had experience living out in the wilderness for as long as a year with almost no contact with the outside world. I suppose who is the "bigger badass" is up for debate, but who is the better survivalist is pretty obvious. especially considering he films his own show, whereas the other guy has a crew with him (no doubt with a full contingent of gear and food). Your claims of crew interference are completely unfounded. The survivorman wins just because he has to carry his own camera? I'd most definitely rather be stuck with a former SAS badass. It's not his fault he only served 3 years in the military, he broke his back jumping from a plane at age 21. What did he do? Spent a year in rehab and the climbed Mt. Everest at age 23! There are a lot of hippies that run off into the woods and live there (By your very own definition that is what this makes Survivorman, a dirty, smelly hippy!). As far as I can tell the formats of the show are different (only seen one episode of Survivorman). Survivorman teaches you how to live somewhere for a week, while Bear teaches you how to get the hell out of there with your life. -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jul 3 2007, 04:28 PM
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i'd trust my life with bear over survivorman.
actually i'd trust both, but as jrock said, survivorman teaches you to survive for about a week and bear teaches how to get the fuck out. he may have to lug his own shit, but if i were trapped, i wouldn't be worried about setting my cams & shit bear has a crew (speculate crew interference, fucker still eats raw zebra & water from elephant shit) bear 100% -------------------- |
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Jul 3 2007, 05:20 PM
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i watched both and found them both interesting... while somewhat dramatic.
bear is a trained warrior who's job it is to fight and win battles by any means necessary. if something goes awry, then he has the skills to unfuck his situation and carry on. survivorman is one of those survivalist guys who relishes his misery and takes pride in the fact he can live in the wilderness. if I were to have to choose one of them as my partner in the field, I would choose Bear because he looks like the kind of guy I would fuck in prison... |
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Jul 3 2007, 05:50 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Jul 3 2007, 06:20 PM) if I were to have to choose one of them as my partner in the field, I would choose Bear because he looks like the kind of guy I would fuck in prison...  
--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jul 3 2007, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jul 3 2007, 06:50 PM) I SECOND! -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Jul 5 2007, 09:21 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 3 2007, 05:14 PM) Your claims of crew interference are completely unfounded. The survivorman wins just because he has to carry his own camera? I'd most definitely rather be stuck with a former SAS badass. It's not his fault he only served 3 years in the military, he broke his back jumping from a plane at age 21. What did he do? Spent a year in rehab and the climbed Mt. Everest at age 23! so recovering from back surgery and climbing mountains (no doubt with oxygen tanks and a full set of supplies) = survival skills... gotta love the logic QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 3 2007, 05:14 PM) Survivorman teaches you how to live somewhere for a week, while Bear teaches you how to get the hell out of there with your life. you obviously haven't watched his show much... the theme of every show is him showing you how to survive and get out. bottom line... 20 years experience vs 3. hmm. |
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Jul 5 2007, 09:26 AM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
still goin on bear with this one
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Jul 5 2007, 09:46 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
his name isn't even bear... he probably nicknamed himself to make him sound more rugged than "edward"
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Jul 5 2007, 09:48 AM
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I bet you guys would also want toby mcguire with you in case you fell from a building. or you'd want tom cruise to be on your plane so he could take over since he's such a good pilot
edit: i actually would rather have edward grylls with me, in case i was accidentally airdropped into mexico QUOTE He was educated at Eton College and studied for a degree in Hispanic Studies from London University
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Jul 5 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE Les Stroud (Born October 20, 1962 in Mimico, Ontario[1][2]) is a Canadian musician, film maker, and survival enthusiast best known as the host of the television program Survivorman. After a short career behind the scenes in the music industry, Stroud became a full-time wilderness guide Stroud went on to complete the Music Industry Arts program at Fanshawe College in London, Ontario Least he'll sing kum bai ya for ya This post has been edited by woody: Jul 5 2007, 10:18 AM -------------------- |
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Jul 5 2007, 10:25 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
keyword "short" career in the music industry. that's bc the other TWENTY years he was a wilderness guide and survival class instructor...
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Jul 5 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 5 2007, 10:21 AM) so recovering from back surgery and climbing mountains (no doubt with oxygen tanks and a full set of supplies) = survival skills... gotta love the logic you obviously haven't watched his show much... the theme of every show is him showing you how to survive and get out. bottom line... 20 years experience vs 3. hmm. What made it obvious that I haven't watched his show much, was it the part where I said I'd only seen one episode? You've been arguing for 20+ years but a 3 year old could probably put together a more valid debate than you can on many subjects, so that trumps your "more experience is better" theory. QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 5 2007, 10:48 AM) I bet you guys would also want toby mcguire with you in case you fell from a building. or you'd want tom cruise to be on your plane so he could take over since he's such a good pilot edit: i actually would rather have edward grylls with me, in case i was accidentally airdropped into mexico Maybe I just trust a guy that is trained by a military program that is respected around the world. And now you're faulting the guy for getting a college education? QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 5 2007, 11:25 AM) keyword "short" career in the music industry. that's bc the other TWENTY years he was a wilderness guide and survival class instructor... You trust your life with a guy that couldn't hold his job at a music company and ran away into the woods!
-------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jul 5 2007, 10:47 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 5 2007, 11:35 AM) so that trumps your "more experience is better" theory. so more experience is not better? QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 5 2007, 11:35 AM) Maybe I just trust a guy that is trained by a military program that is respected around the world. I didn't say I wouldn't trust the guy, and don't blame you for trusting him, but the question being debated is "who is better". I just fail to see the logic that someone with three years of spec ops training is 'better' at survival than someone who's been a wilderness guide and survival instructor for twenty years. les was teaching surival classes and guiding people through the wilderness when edward grylls was still wetting the bed. QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 5 2007, 11:35 AM) And now you're faulting the guy for getting a college education? no, just thought it was funny (the "hispanic studies" degree). QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 5 2007, 11:35 AM) You trust your life with a guy that couldn't hold his job at a music company and ran away into the woods! was he fired from his music job? guess I missed that part. and he didn't run away into the woods, he wanted to see if he could live there on his own with minimal outside assistance, which he accomplished. it's hilarious how you guys are all totally fooled by the TV show dramatics. |
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Jul 5 2007, 10:58 AM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
ok.... after careful consideration, i have decided that i would take les the survivor man.... because bear does some DUMB stuff in order to get the hell outta places.... i saw the fucker get in a leaky boat and try to cross a river that was half ice in alaska.... ended up having to swim the other half.... and bear seems to know how to do the minimum to survive.. the guy makes a show about eating bugs, and nasty shit... yes, you can survive off it, but you sure ain't gonna enjoy it... while the survivor man provides a bit higher comfort level. if i'm spending a long damn time outside, i want les. if i was kicked somewhere involuntarily and it's reasonable i could walk back to society, then bear is the choice, but i'm pretty damn sure les can get back to society just as easily.
-------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:35 AM
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here's i determined the winner
if both were on a deserted island and cannibalism was the only means of survival using the losers bones, skin, and hair to make a boat..i'm taking bear over kum bai ya to survive that one -------------------- |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 5 2007, 10:25 AM) keyword "short" career in the music industry. that's bc the other TWENTY years he was a wilderness guide and survival class instructor... he can survive anything but the music industry god what a bad ass -------------------- |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (woody @ Jul 5 2007, 12:35 PM) here's i determined the winner if both were on a deserted island and cannibalism was the only means of survival using the losers bones, skin, and hair to make a boat..i'm taking bear over kum bai ya to survive that one yeah that logic works great. so it'd be easier for you to kill a former SAS than les stroud. |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:47 AM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jul 5 2007, 11:58 AM) i saw the fucker get in a leaky boat and try to cross a river that was half ice in alaska.... ended up having to swim the other half.... The boat wasn't leaky at the start, remember? The ice flow became thicker as he went down river and the underwater ice began to shear his boat. -------------------- |
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Jul 6 2007, 11:15 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
bear because he'll get me the fuck out of there
survivorman seems to enjoy his plight but he's definitely more of a wilderness survivor...he knows how to utilize what he has where he is bear is more of a daredevil survivor... the whole camera crew argument is retarded....there's no way a producer of a television show is going to let a guy go out in the wilderness by himself without some way of contact in case he's in real trouble....there are a lot of legal ramifications if one of those guys dies both of them operate without help but if they need it help is not far behind -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jul 18 2007, 07:18 PM
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