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post Jun 27 2007, 07:37 AM
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Anyone getting one or know anyone who's getting one? People are putting them up for $25,000 starting bid on ebay. It's actually kinda funny to see all these professional looking people waiting in line for a cellphone.


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post Jun 27 2007, 07:49 AM
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mine comes in Wednesday of next week.
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i'm curious to see how the pan/tilt sensor is going to work according to their latest commercial...
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Who the fuck wants an iPhone? Here's a list of stuff it DOESN'T HAVE.

1. Songs as Ringtones
2. Games
3. Any flash support
4. Instant Messaging
5. Picture messages (MMS)
6. Video recording
7. Voice recognition or voice dialing
8. Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
9. One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)
10. 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
11. GPS
12. A real keyboard
13. Removable battery
14. Expandable Storage
15. Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/what-the-...have-272571.php
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post Jun 27 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (1up @ Jun 27 2007, 11:12 AM) *
Who the fuck wants an iPhone? Here's a list of stuff it DOESN'T HAVE.

1. Songs as Ringtones
2. Games
3. Any flash support
4. Instant Messaging
5. Picture messages (MMS)
6. Video recording
7. Voice recognition or voice dialing
8. Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
9. One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)
10. 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
11. GPS
12. A real keyboard
13. Removable battery
14. Expandable Storage
15. Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/what-the-...have-272571.php

Yeah, but it's Apple, which means it's trendy, which means people will buy it even if it's not remotely the best product of its kind on the market.


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post Jun 27 2007, 10:19 AM
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Yeah, but it's Apple, which means it's trendy, which means people will buy it even if it's not remotely the best product of its kind on the market.


Exactly.

Apple and the iPhone release is analogous to Sony and the PS3. Sony announced that they could release a total piece of shit that doesn't even play games, call it a PS3, and still sell millions because of fanbois. Apple is releasing a steaming pile of shit and all the fanbois are going crazy over it. Same scenario, different company/product.
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post Jun 27 2007, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (1up @ Jun 27 2007, 11:19 AM) *
Exactly.

Apple and the iPhone release is analogous to Sony and the PS3. Sony announced that they could release a total piece of shit that doesn't even play games, call it a PS3, and still sell millions because of fanbois. Apple is releasing a steaming pile of shit and all the fanbois are going crazy over it. Same scenario, different company/product.

It's just because they're a lot better at marketing than they are at designing, I think. The ability to see full format web pages seems pretty awesome, but what's the point if you're not on 3G. Also, I have fat fingers, so you're trying to tell me I'm going to type out full emails on a tiny on-screen keyboard? I have the cingular 8525, and I like the sliding keyboard because I can type with both thumbs. The iPhone's design makes it seem as though you have to type everything out with one finger.

I'll wait until I get my hands on one to pass final judgment, but I'm not excited over it like some. It kind of reminds me of the iPod: There were lots of MP3 players on the market at the time, and some of them were a lot better than iPods (I love my iRiver and the ability to drag and drop songs or data into FOLDERS) but iPods came out and were stripped down, defective models. But they sold like crazy because they were easy to use for people who didn't know what an MP3 player was, and they had a tremendous amount of advertisement behind them compared to other brands.


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post Jun 27 2007, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 27 2007, 11:10 AM) *
i'm curious to see how the pan/tilt sensor is going to work according to their latest commercial...


This video on the NYT website is actually a pretty good indicator of what it will look like in a regular user's hands: http://video.on.nytimes.com/index.jsp?fr_s...f3940afb8a3f7c8


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post Jun 27 2007, 10:54 AM
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punk bitches make you accept their cookie to view a video... no thanks.

what i mean though, is how is the thing going to determine which way you're looking at it? it's obvious if you're holding it at a 90 to the ground, but if it's flat on a table, how will it know which way to rotate the screen?
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:00 AM
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As far as getting an iPhone, it looks cool but the fact that the camera doesn't have a zoom (basic phones with cameras do), you can't send picture messages, and that it uses the EDGE network are big negatives for me.

Usually, I use my Palm when I need the internet in places that don't have WiFi or I don't want to get out my laptop. So if I am in a cab and need to check-in for a flight, I use my Palm. This could be a painful process on the iPhone.

As AT&T moves away from EDGE and starts upgrading their network and the phone gets revised, I may buy one.

The simple fact is, it's a revolutionary phone. The touchscreen, the keyboard, and the sensors make it that and soon we'll see other devices using the iPhone as a benchmark. So, whether you like it or not, we'll soon see "clones" of it.

Lance, I wholeheartedly agree with you about some of the issues, but for one, only a few people have played with the keyboard, and all of their reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. Also, the expandable storage? Do you really need more than 8GB? What are you going to be doing on the phone, writing a novel? Apple has actually said that there are features it has not released yet, some of which may include songs as ringtones. Guess we won't know till Friday.


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 27 2007, 11:54 AM) *
punk bitches make you accept their cookie to view a video... no thanks.

what i mean though, is how is the thing going to determine which way you're looking at it? it's obvious if you're holding it at a 90 to the ground, but if it's flat on a table, how will it know which way to rotate the screen?


I think that's where the accelerometer comes into play.


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jun 27 2007, 11:32 AM) *
It's just because they're a lot better at marketing than they are at designing, I think. The ability to see full format web pages seems pretty awesome, but what's the point if you're not on 3G. Also, I have fat fingers, so you're trying to tell me I'm going to type out full emails on a tiny on-screen keyboard? I have the cingular 8525, and I like the sliding keyboard because I can type with both thumbs. The iPhone's design makes it seem as though you have to type everything out with one finger.

I'll wait until I get my hands on one to pass final judgment, but I'm not excited over it like some. It kind of reminds me of the iPod: There were lots of MP3 players on the market at the time, and some of them were a lot better than iPods (I love my iRiver and the ability to drag and drop songs or data into FOLDERS) but iPods came out and were stripped down, defective models. But they sold like crazy because they were easy to use for people who didn't know what an MP3 player was, and they had a tremendous amount of advertisement behind them compared to other brands.


Watch the video I posted and new video posted by Apple, both show people using both thumbs to type.


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:09 AM
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I want an iPhone, but it costs $600 and the plans start at $60. sad.gif


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:21 AM
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can we merge the two threads?


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 27 2007, 12:02 PM) *
I think that's where the accelerometer comes into play.

I don't think you see what I'm saying. If I take my iPhone out of my pocket and set it flat on a table, how does it know which way the screen should face?
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:36 AM
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I read an article on yahoo yesterday that listed the reasons why the iPhone isnt all its cracked up to be. looks cool, but doesnt have the best features....hmmm kinda reminds me of the iPod.
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jun 27 2007, 11:32 AM) *
Also, I have fat fingers, so you're trying to tell me I'm going to type out full emails on a tiny on-screen keyboard? I have the cingular 8525, and I like the sliding keyboard because I can type with both thumbs. The iPhone's design makes it seem as though you have to type everything out with one finger.


http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/keyboard_large.html


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post Jun 27 2007, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 27 2007, 12:33 PM) *
I don't think you see what I'm saying. If I take my iPhone out of my pocket and set it flat on a table, how does it know which way the screen should face?


I know what you are saying. From what I've read, the default facing will be vertical until the accelerometer senses a change. This makes sense, as when you set something down on the table, you do it so that it faces you. You don't usually use a phone as it sits on a table unless you're using the speakerphone to talk to someone (in my experience).

Movies and TV shows will always be shown in horizontal mode (as far as YouTube goes, I haven't found anything).


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Yeah, I'm not real confident in their ability to produce a good phone considering this link broke my browser (Firefox) then when I restored the session it told me that my Quicktime software is missing a component to show the video, and the component is not available on the Quicktime server.


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post Jun 27 2007, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 27 2007, 12:33 PM) *
I don't think you see what I'm saying. If I take my iPhone out of my pocket and set it flat on a table, how does it know which way the screen should face?


Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if you could manually change that setting...


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My current phone:


I got this in 2002 and it still keeps on ticking (best receptions, coverage, etc... of any phone I've had with no problems whatsoever).

I don't understand why everyone wants to pack so much shit into a mobile device. On an iPhone I would use: voice, text msg, and music. I couldn't imagine using any of the extras to justify the cost. Maybe if I lived in NYC and had a long commute I would use the video/web browsing features, idk. *shrug*


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post Jun 27 2007, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Jun 27 2007, 04:45 PM) *
I don't understand why everyone wants to pack so much shit into a mobile device. On an iPhone I would use: voice, text msg, and music. I couldn't imagine using any of the extras to justify the cost. Maybe if I lived in NYC and had a long commute I would use the video/web browsing features, idk. *shrug*

but it's so shiny...


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post Jun 27 2007, 05:06 PM
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anybody who buys this is dead to me. dead.
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post Jun 27 2007, 05:10 PM
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Because you're gonna kill them and steal it, yeah?


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post Jun 27 2007, 05:12 PM
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and then sell it on ebay for triple the retail price
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Jun 27 2007, 05:45 PM) *
My current phone:


I got this in 2002 and it still keeps on ticking (best receptions, coverage, etc... of any phone I've had with no problems whatsoever).

I don't understand why everyone wants to pack so much shit into a mobile device. On an iPhone I would use: voice, text msg, and music. I couldn't imagine using any of the extras to justify the cost. Maybe if I lived in NYC and had a long commute I would use the video/web browsing features, idk. *shrug*


holy crap yes...

that was my old phone before i got a shitty clamshell

i'm thinking about switching back to it


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I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this goddamn phone. IT'S A PHONE. NOT EVEN A CUTTING-EDGE ONE.

I pray to god this ends up being the next RAZR and people start to hate them.


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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 27 2007, 06:12 PM) *
holy crap yes...

that was my old phone before i got a shitty clamshell

i'm thinking about switching back to it


Yeah man, I went to clam shell for about 3 months before it broke into two pieces.
I was like fuck that, give me back my sanyo!


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QUOTE (zetec @ Jun 27 2007, 06:59 PM) *
I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this goddamn phone. IT'S A PHONE. NOT EVEN A CUTTING-EDGE ONE.

I pray to god this ends up being the next RAZR and people start to hate them.


its a phone with mass storage

the only thing unique is the whole ipod, video playback, and web browsing

why the fuck do i need that in a phone anyway


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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 27 2007, 06:12 PM) *
holy crap yes...

that was my old phone before i got a shitty clamshell

i'm thinking about switching back to it

I still have that phone, and its beat to hell. Got a new one last year since the battery and the reception was going badly. Phone lasted me since 2001. Now I got the fusic, lots of bells, trendy but sucks.

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Some questions get answered: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/28/technolo...and&emc=rss


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still disappointing


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Why didn’t Apple use AT&T’s faster 3G Internet network? Apple says that today’s relatively unpolished 3G (third generation) radio chips would drain the battery too fast — and at this point, wouldn’t provide enough of a speed boost to justify that trade-off. Apple will release a 3G iPhone model when the time seems right.

lol "when the time is right". in other words, when the buzz wears off and they need to sell another one to the same people who bought the first one.
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i apparently am the only one that cares but....

IT'S iPHONE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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are you getting one for sure later today?


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no, actually i'm getting it next wednesday when i get back from a 4th of july trip that i'm leaving for today.
the transaction is complete though, so no worries of them selling out.


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QUOTE (blaarg @ Jun 27 2007, 05:45 PM) *
My current phone:


I got this in 2002 and it still keeps on ticking (best receptions, coverage, etc... of any phone I've had with no problems whatsoever).

I don't understand why everyone wants to pack so much shit into a mobile device. On an iPhone I would use: voice, text msg, and music. I couldn't imagine using any of the extras to justify the cost. Maybe if I lived in NYC and had a long commute I would use the video/web browsing features, idk. *shrug*


I agree. I don't need an MP3 player on my phone because I own an Ipod. I don't need a shitty camera on my phone because I have a digital camera. I certainly don't need to get on Myspace from my phone because I have a computer. Until someone invents a cell phone that gives me head, I'll stick to using one that actually gets decent reception


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I agree. I don't need an MP3 player on my phone because I own an Ipod. I don't need a shitty camera on my phone because I have a digital camera. I certainly don't need to get on Myspace from my phone because I have a computer. Until someone invents a cell phone that gives me head, I'll stick to using one that actually gets decent reception



DUDE I have that phone sitting in my closet somewhere...that thing rocked.

I got rid of it because everyone made fun of how huge and annoying it was...I'm a lil bitch... sad.gif
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DUDE I have that phone sitting in my closet somewhere...that thing rocked.

I got rid of it because everyone made fun of how huge and annoying it was...I'm a lil bitch... sad.gif


that will pass...

my parents have phones they got in 2001 and they look like bricks but people still comment on how "cool" they are because it's "oldskool"

then people will ask you where you got that phone...and you can tell them you time traveled...


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I so far have no problems with phones that plays MP3's or takes pictures, since a) I don't own an ipod, cool.gif don't own a small camera (I have an SLR which is kinda hard to carry around regularly), c) I prefer not to walk around with a cellphone, a camera, and a mp3 player


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I had that same sanyo phone that was posted for a long time, was an awesome phone until I accidentally smashed it on the ground.

as far as using more features... I like my pda phone a lot for the extra features, being able to browse to this site is huge for me. i also like the fact that it's an actual computer and I can put other nifty apps on it like novii remote (which I've used on tons of occasions to turn the volume up on TVs at the bar heh), media players (I've actually used it to watch full length movies on planes), and the ability to open office documents. It's way easier to send text messages because of the full qwerty slide out keyboard. having the ability to fully syncronize my outlook calendar & contacts with the phone, my home computer, and work computer is also a huge plus for me. If one of the computers or the phone takes a dump, I don't lose all my contacts and they simply get resynced. Plus, I can enter them all on my computer, along with people's picture and everything, rather than having to type them all into the phone by hand. I can connect to other computers or networks using bluetooth, wifi, or a USB cable. the nice large LCD touchscreen makes the interface easy to read and use.

I will agree with you guys on the "well all i need to do is use the phone and send text messages". My PDA phone started out as a toy, but now that I've had it for about a year I now find all the features to be extremely useful and worth the small cost difference between it and a regular cell phone.
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post Jun 29 2007, 02:55 PM
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Yeah, when you start using the PDAs and smartphones as such and not as status symbols, they end up being a great tool.

I use the camera on mine to grab shots of things when I'm not carrying a real camera, I don't listen to music on it, I use the calendar (a ton), and Google Maps on this thing is just like on the iPhone except you use a stylus ( i can call directly from the map)


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post Jun 29 2007, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 29 2007, 02:34 PM) *
that will pass...

my parents have phones they got in 2001 and they look like bricks but people still comment on how "cool" they are because it's "oldskool"

then people will ask you where you got that phone...and you can tell them you time traveled...


That's funny...the nickname for my phone is "the brick"


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post Jun 29 2007, 05:44 PM
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anyone else find these ebay ads kinda funny?

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QUOTE (Inferia @ Jun 29 2007, 06:44 PM) *
anyone else find these ebay ads kinda funny?

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Extremely since there probably won't be sell-out of the phones at most stores (and since you can pick them up at AT&T stores).

I find the news coverage hilarious.


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post Jun 29 2007, 08:47 PM
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Is it true that you have to get some special data plan for the phone?
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post Jun 29 2007, 09:01 PM
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see what the second one is going for?


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The Irony is that the second auction is out of Burlington, VT.....and AT&T doesnt work in Vermont.
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bought it.
the thing said 2-4 weeks but i'm sure it'll be here next week.
i heard it projected on cnn that iphone would take over 12% of every cell phone that exists.
thus 3 out of 25 people will have an iphone. seems crazy to me. initial response is looking good though.


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edit: this says 6%
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/arch...ed_iphone_sales


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I'm gonna head to the Apple store in a bit to play with the demo.


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