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 May 23 2007, 02:35 PM
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4829623.html
QUOTE "They now have 1,600 centrifuges  a year and a half ago they had 40 centrifuges," said the senior U.N. official. It's only a matter of time now. It's Deja Vu all over again... middle east country defying UN weapons sanctions... QUOTE With the council's latest deadline for Iranian compliance ending Thursday, the report could be followed within days by consultations on new council penalties. It'll be interesting to see what the council does, if anything. |
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May 23 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 23 2007, 03:35 PM)  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4829623.html It's only a matter of time now. It's Deja Vu all over again... middle east country defying UN weapons sanctions... It'll be interesting to see what the council does, if anything. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/23/...ning/index.html A small fleet has deployed to the Gulf of Oman to conduct war games... Show of force. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 23 2007, 02:44 PM
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We don't have the manpower to go to war with another country. Not enough enlisted and not enough officers to lead them.
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May 23 2007, 02:44 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yeah I saw that on chron.com too... interesting times for sure
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May 23 2007, 02:52 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (James @ May 23 2007, 03:44 PM) We don't have the manpower to go to war with another country. Not enough enlisted and not enough officers to lead them. we have plenty of manpower... although the media would have you believe every last soldier is in Iraq dying right now. 1,450,689 active duty (254,479 officers) 858,500 reserves 160,000 troops currently in Iraq. ~15,000 in Afghanistan |
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May 23 2007, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 23 2007, 03:52 PM) we have plenty of manpower... although the media would have you believe every last soldier is in Iraq dying right now. 1,450,689 active duty (254,479 officers) 858,500 reserves 160,000 troops currently in Iraq. ~15,000 in Afghanistan My source for lack of manpower was not the media. How many of those are actual combat forces? You can't occupy a country from the sea or the air or by paperworking them to death :-\ How many are in places like Korea? We still have interests over there. How many of those troops returned from a long-term deployment within 12 months ago? Long deployments with high frequency lead to low troop morale. You get the idea. Just defying UN sanctions alone won't be enough. They'll need to be caught attacking us or directly supporting those attacking us. Kind of like something that Stephan (think I spelled his name right) referred to in that War on Iraq thread. BTW, there are reported to be 1,136,125 enlisted and 221,243 officers as of March 31, 2007. Highly doubt 30,000+ officers were accessioned in the past two months. Doubting the 70,000+ enlisted, too. We've lost 8,000+ troops between March 31, 2006 and March 31, 2007. From what I can tell, it looks like we haven't had that many active duty since 1997-1998. (Source: http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/) -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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May 23 2007, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 23 2007, 03:35 PM) http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4829623.html It's only a matter of time now. It's Deja Vu all over again... middle east country defying UN weapons sanctions... It'll be interesting to see what the council does, if anything. If it's really Deja Vu, I can't wait to see what evidence the Bush Administration will exaggerate to all hell to support their case. hehe Come on, I had to say it! And I agree with James on this one, word for word. -------------------- |
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May 23 2007, 07:59 PM
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From the looks of it, the move into the Gulf of Oman is simply for war games and it is being blown out of proportion. It is one Expeditionary Force, I doubt they would try to invade with that.
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May 23 2007, 08:52 PM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
yeah they found out from iraq we need to have a draft and then invade with like 100 batallions and plasma cannons and battle mechs and fucking like, arnold schwartzenegger to win a war ....
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May 23 2007, 09:00 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 23 2007, 09:52 PM) yeah they found out from iraq we need to have a draft and then invade with like 100 batallions and plasma cannons and battle mechs and fucking like, arnold schwartzenegger to win a war .... We need Metal Gear! ...Or Solid Snake, either works. -------------------- |
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May 23 2007, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 23 2007, 09:52 PM) yeah they found out from iraq we need to have a draft and then invade with like 100 batallions and plasma cannons and battle mechs and fucking like, arnold schwartzenegger to win a war .... send in the entire team from Predator, and to maximize effectiveness, give ahnold only a survival knife and some camo paint. (trust me, he'll do wonders) Rambo, but make sure he only uses a bow... that fucker could burn through 600 rounds of ammo, and only hit one guy.... jesus.... bruce willis could also go. but bruce is only a hard ass when he's covered in blood. and just for fun, we'll send richard simmons --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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May 24 2007, 12:00 AM
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 Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
We need israel to blow up the centrifuges.
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May 24 2007, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 23 2007, 09:52 PM) yeah they found out from iraq we need to have a draft and then invade with like 100 batallions and plasma cannons and battle mechs and fucking like, arnold schwartzenegger to win a war .... Let's see, 17,000 personnel vs. 350,000 person Iranian Army 
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May 24 2007, 07:36 AM
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we arent going to do anything without any help from other countries.....which we wont be able to get anymore
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May 24 2007, 08:00 AM
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WE ARE SPARTA!!!
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May 24 2007, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 23 2007, 04:59 PM) If it's really Deja Vu, I can't wait to see what evidence the Bush Administration will exaggerate to all hell to support their case. hehe Come on, I had to say it! And I agree with James on this one, word for word. well the details are slightly different... Iraq simply claimed they had no weapons and weren't building weapons. I suppose they were playing tiddlewinks for the five years they didn't allow weapons inspectors in. anyhow... with Iran, they're claiming they went from 40 centrifuges to 1600, so they can build power plants... so yeah... same shit different day. and yeah I knew you had to say it  QUOTE (Hartmann @ May 24 2007, 08:17 AM) Let's see, 17,000 personnel vs. 350,000 person Iranian Army 350,000 vs cruise missles & smart bombs what did Iraq's army total before we took them down? |
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May 24 2007, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE How many of those are actual combat forces? You can't occupy a country from the sea or the air or by paperworking them to death :-\ LMAO that is actually a very valid point though. |
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May 24 2007, 09:14 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well what is the number then?
1.5 million active duty... how many of those are paper pushers? |
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May 24 2007, 09:27 AM
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I wasn't able to find a breakdown by job. Not sure if that's public information or not. Part of me hopes that it's not.
Also not sure if they classify people in training and DEP as part of those numbers. I know they include people in the academies and ROTC in the numbers, neither of which are deployable. Then there's people with temporary medical conditions that people have preventing them from deploying. Oh hell, I even forgot the instructors that have to stay behind to train the new people. Ugh. What a mess. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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May 24 2007, 10:00 AM
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active warfighters/combat arms units (infantry, armor, arty) make up a small fraction of the total mil. especially considering they are only in 2 branches out of 5 (I'm sure the coast guard is included in those mil numbers).
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May 24 2007, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 24 2007, 09:13 AM) well the details are slightly different... Iraq simply claimed they had no weapons and weren't building weapons. I suppose they were playing tiddlewinks for the five years they didn't allow weapons inspectors in. anyhow... with Iran, they're claiming they went from 40 centrifuges to 1600, so they can build power plants... so yeah... same shit different day. and yeah I knew you had to say it 350,000 vs cruise missles & smart bombs what did Iraq's army total before we took them down? Well you are looking at a different population as well. The Iraqis hated Saddam just as much as the U.S. but there are some very staunch supporters of the Ayatollah and the regime in power and they would probably muster as many civilians as they could to fight off any invasion by the "Great Satan" -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 24 2007, 03:43 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
update today
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ld/4832082.html QUOTE "If Iran's right to nuclear technology is confirmed, all nations of the world will gather under Iran's political banner. Enemies of Islamic Iran know this, and for this reason they have mobilized," Ahmadinejad said. The leader said Iran doesn't fear its foes' attempts to thwart its nuclear ambitions. "The enemy is applying its ultimate capabilities against Islamic Iran, which will be useless," Ahmadinejad said. "With the support of the Iranian nation, we do not fear the enemy's hyperbole and psychological warfare. We are nearing our final goals." not sounding too good... also doesn't sound like the words of a country who claims it's nuclear program is only for peaceful power production. Heh the democrats may get exactly what they wanted... to pull our troops out of Iraq... 'cept they'll head straight to Iran. |
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May 24 2007, 05:10 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
im perfectly fine with pooping on iran instead of iraq if we arent the only ones doing it. this is if things are what they sound like bad naughtyness.
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Jun 7 2007, 12:36 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I heard on the radio news this afternoon that Iran was caught red handed supplying C4 and roadside bombs to taliban terrorists in afghanistan.
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Jun 7 2007, 01:08 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 7 2007, 01:36 PM) I heard on the radio news this afternoon that Iran was caught red handed supplying C4 and roadside bombs to taliban terrorists in afghanistan. ...was it from Rush Limbaugh????  Seriously, link? -------------------- |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:14 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
haha no. i actually was listening to rush, but it was a local news radio guy on a normal news break. i'd put a link up but i can't find anything about it... just heard it on the news radio (houston 740 ktrh).
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Jun 7 2007, 01:14 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I dont really think that is something that needs to be linked to believe. Iran has been pulling some shady ass shit.
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Jun 7 2007, 01:16 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
here's an ABC news link
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/0...ent_iran_c.html |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:22 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 7 2007, 02:14 PM) I dont really think that is something that needs to be linked to believe. Iran has been pulling some shady ass shit. Yeah, I know. From the article: QUOTE Iran and the Taliban had been fierce enemies when the Taliban was in power in Afghanistan, and their apparent collaboration came as a surprise to some in the intelligence community. Yep...enemy of my enemy is my friend. Fuck, if only Iraq hadn't been such a damn fiasco... -------------------- |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:25 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well, they're enemies, but they hate us more than each other
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Jun 7 2007, 01:26 PM
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Jun 7 2007, 01:27 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:25 PM) well, they're enemies, but they hate us more than each other Yeah, 'tis what I meant. Same with how we worked with Osama and the Taliban (jn a proxy fashion) to get the Ruskies out of Afghanistan. QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 7 2007, 02:26 PM) $429 USD YES, WANT -------------------- |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 7 2007, 02:26 PM) $429 USD Free if you pick it up off a corpse 
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Jun 7 2007, 01:30 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
 think i would rather try this looks like a fun shoot -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:33 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 7 2007, 02:22 PM) Yeah, I know. Well, Im just saying, Iran is going to hate America a lot more than her muslim neighbor nations. Additionally, the President of Iran made an announcement the other day that their nuclear program was in full force and at this point the can not back down... something to that affect. Wish I could find a link to that. It was on a major news site though
From the article: Yep...enemy of my enemy is my friend. Fuck, if only Iraq hadn't been such a damn fiasco... |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:37 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
there was something said by iran again lately about "time is running out for israel"
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Jun 7 2007, 01:51 PM
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Looks like Iran is getting some weapons from Russia by way of Syria. Think it was like 40 anti-aircraft for Syria and 10 for Iran, all paid for by Iran.
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Jun 7 2007, 01:54 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
i think we should just bomb the fuck out of Iran until their entire country is gone.
whoah... what |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:56 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
OMG! You crazy!
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Jun 8 2007, 03:05 AM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:30 PM) think i would rather try this looks like a fun shoot that gun must be a joke, just waiting for the AK with a scope -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jun 14 2007, 12:12 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
UN Official says attack on Iran would be "madness"
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ld/4890039.html QUOTE A recent IAEA report confirmed that Iran was expanding its activities and continuing to stonewall the IAEA in its attempts to gain more information on past activities of concern. That has set the stage for a new round of Security Council-imposed penalties. yeah... i'll be interested to see these penalties. QUOTE U.S. officials have told The Associated Press their information indicates Iran has not yet achieved the technical perfection. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were discussing confidential matters. Gregory L. Schulte, the U.S. envoy to the IAEA, scoffed at Soltanieh's claim of enrichment mastery, telling AP Television News: "The Iranian ambassador spins faster than any centrifuge." lol |
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Jun 14 2007, 05:01 PM
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Friend of mine is going to Iran to visit relatives tomorrow (hadn't seen his grandparents ever, etc...).
I'm curious to hear his first hand accounts of the country... And I would steer clear from blanket statements that "they all hate us" because he said a substantial amount of the population is apathetic towards religion and against the present rhetoric by the "president". Those particular people are, however, for weapons buildup because they view it as an act of self defense rather than aggression. I'll get back to you with more info about this when he gets back... --------------------  |
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Jun 14 2007, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (blaarg @ Jun 14 2007, 06:01 PM) Friend of mine is going to Iran to visit relatives tomorrow (hadn't seen his grandparents ever, etc...). I'm curious to hear his first hand accounts of the country... And I would steer clear from blanket statements that "they all hate us" because he said a substantial amount of the population is apathetic towards religion and against the present rhetoric by the "president". Those particular people are, however, for weapons buildup because they view it as an act of self defense rather than aggression. I'll get back to you with more info about this if he gets back... Fixed it for you, given their recent actions. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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