 Death Penalty for Raping Minors |
| Death Penalty for Raping Minors |
 Apr 25 2007, 08:17 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15  |
http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_sto...asp?ArID=183033
The story says that any sexual predator who is convicted two times of raping a child under the age of 14 could be put to death. Im paraphrasing big time, but thats the jist of it Im not the biggest advocate of the death penalty, but for some reason I agree with this 100% |
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Apr 25 2007, 08:23 AM
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 N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
Hey, let's cut off people's hands when they steal while we're at it. We should also execute people who smoke weed. Damn potheads.
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Apr 25 2007, 08:24 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Raping a young child is on a whole different playing field. You know this, Billy. Dont act so arrogant.
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Apr 25 2007, 08:39 AM
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I'm pro-death penalty for murder, but am conflicted on this particular issue.
what if an 18yr old guy fucked some overdeveloped 13yr old (you've all seen them) who was at a party and then she felt guilty and told her parents he raped her (like happens...) man that would suck... |
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Apr 25 2007, 08:42 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
yeah, I think it should be restricted to 12 and under
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Apr 25 2007, 09:22 AM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
I am generally opposed to the death penalty. But, they should defiantly lock these fuckers up for a long time.
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Apr 25 2007, 09:27 AM
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The problem is courts decide that even if it was consensual it was rape for certain ages.....which sort of screws the whole thing up
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Apr 25 2007, 09:39 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Any asshole who tries to have sex with a 12 year old, consensual or not, deserves what he gets. Plus, I THINK it mentions in the article VIOLENT rapes which would mean nonconsensual sex (assuming that anyone that young wouldnt be masochistic enough to like super rough sex)
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Apr 25 2007, 09:43 AM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
Someone who is 12 doesn't fully understand the consequences of their action. Sure, they may know what's happening, but they don't fully get it. So, in a sense, I agree with it.
Then again, it is harsh. Then again, it can impact a person their entire life. --------------------  |
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Apr 25 2007, 10:15 AM
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yeah this is a great idea given that 50% of people accused of rape are innocent
dna evidence has been clearing people convicted of rape for years duke lacrosse anyone? |
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Apr 25 2007, 10:27 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
For forcible rape with DNA evidence to support it, maybe. Definitely not for regular statutory rape. Obviously cases with little kids would be determined by judge/jury to be forcible no matter what. But hell, there are 11-year-olds that slut it up nowadays.
This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Apr 25 2007, 10:29 AM -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2007, 10:30 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
1) that woman that was "raped" was of age which makes your comparison completely irrelevant.
2) we do have DNA testing now and if a minor is raped and there is DNA evidence then it is almost 100% certainty that he is guilty. |
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Apr 25 2007, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 25 2007, 11:30 AM) 1) that woman that was "raped" was of age which makes your comparison completely irrelevant. 2) we do have DNA testing now and if a minor is raped and there is DNA evidence then it is almost 100% certainty that he is guilty. i'm showing how easy it is for someone to be falsely accused of rape, duuuuh... i guess you failed the analogy portion on your SATs and here's an interesting tidbit... a guy i know in high school got a blow job from an underage girl... this underage girl thought that giving a blow job is sex and told her dad the guy raped her this ended up being a big ordeal in our small town and after being in court for months that little detail came out... that the girl didn't even know what sex is death penalty for rape is a dumb idea unless they change the rape laws to be less one-sided, men have no rights when they're accused of rape |
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Apr 25 2007, 10:39 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
We are talking about CHILDEN (male and female) that are little (I dont think it should be 14 and under. I think it should be 12). How do you falsely accuse someone of rape when you are that young if there is DNA evidence. ITS RAPE BECAUSE THEY ARE A MINOR...CONSENSUAL OR NOT. The Lacrosse woman argued that it wasnt consensual. Maybe you should learn how to make a proper analogy.
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Apr 25 2007, 10:40 AM
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you just don't get it, you're dumb
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Apr 25 2007, 10:48 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
uh-huh. thats it.
 cuz comparing a dumb bitch who is of age and gets her panties in a wad because she drank 10 cumshots that night is the same as a 10 year old kid being taken out to the wood shed to have his asshole ripped apart.
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Apr 25 2007, 10:54 AM
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do you know how OFTEN KIDS LIE? ALL THE TIME!!
they'll tell a lie that some dude raped them just so they can get out of trouble for something else there was a story on the news yesterday about two pre-teen girls who claimed a guy raped them when really they broke into his shed to steal his marijuana and didn't want their parents knowing they smoked marijuana!! |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:01 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
did you miss the part where I talked about DNA evidence... that doesnt lie. Unless you are saying the kid is smart enough to find some dudes cum dump rag and wipe it all over himself. Its a lot more clear cut in child rape cases than it is in adult cases. Psychologists can delve into children a lot easier so even if there isnt DNA evidence...its still easier.
And that story you are talking about... the girls were 17. It was two girls that some guy took down to his underground cave thing. The guy had been CONVICTED of raping a 12 year old before that. I think the girls were raped. The girls had bruises and marks all over them. You telling me that they wanted pot soooo badly that they let some guy sex beat the shit out of them? I think the guy was acquitted because the girls had lied about smoking weed. They probably went down there cuz the sick fuck said he had weed for them and then he raped them. |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:10 AM
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this just in, lance is accusing jessica of raping him
jessica to be put to death next week |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:11 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/23/dungeon....l.ap/index.html thats the story you were talking about I think. HEADLINE SAYS: SEX OFFENDER NOT GUILTY OF DUNGEON RAPES
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Apr 25 2007, 11:17 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 25 2007, 12:10 PM) this just in, lance is accusing jessica of raping him jessica to be put to death next week This just in: Lance, who claims to have been abducted by aliens 5 years ago, has been accused of raping an innocent, young alien. Trial scheduled for next week, despite Lance giving a full confession. Prosecuters hope to prove the existence of aliens while defense attorneys claim Lance is clinically insane. |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:21 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 25 2007, 11:48 AM) uh-huh. thats it. cuz comparing a dumb bitch who is of age and gets her panties in a wad because she drank 10 cumshots that night is the same as a 10 year old kid being taken out to the wood shed to have his asshole ripped apart.i can't stop laughing at this -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Apr 25 2007, 11:57 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
Lance, just an FYI, but they don't give the death penalty until the person has been convicted. How many of those rape cases that are being overturned were convictions pre-DNA testing vs post-DNA testing?
Anyway, execution is too good for these guys. Toss their ass in general population for life and let it be known why they're in prison. It's too expensive to give out the death penalty. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Apr 25 2007, 11:58 AM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
pedophile rapists belong in prison. they get what they deserve in there.
edit: ah, too slow. |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:59 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (James @ Apr 25 2007, 12:57 PM) Anyway, execution is too good for these guys. Toss their ass in general population for life and let it be known why they're in prison. It's too expensive to give out the death penalty. Agreed. |
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Apr 25 2007, 12:39 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNew...331853020070423
200th person freed from prison after dna proves their evidence the latest was a guy who served 24 years in prison for a rape conviction... he was set free because dna evidence proved his innocence |
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Apr 25 2007, 12:53 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,761 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Lubbock/Dubai Member No.: 57 |
yeah, 25 yrs is a little different then now.....
since DNA tests now days are usually standard in these cases, it sort of cuts back on wrong rape convictions but it still doesnt cut back on accusing someone of rape when it was consensual -------------------- bored...so i did this
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Apr 25 2007, 01:04 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Can't really read through all this as I am at work, but I will toss in my 2 cents:
I don't agree with the death penalty in the first place. I personally believe locking a person up in a 6x8 cell for the rest of their life in solitary confinement, etc., is a worse penalty. After 20 years of that, I'd be praying for a "release"...i.e.-death. To prescribe the death penalty for anything less than murder is a very slippery slope. It also eliminates any moral/biblical type reasonings for the punishment, i.e., "an eye for an eye." This post has been edited by Psykopath: Apr 25 2007, 03:39 PM -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2007, 02:00 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 25 2007, 02:04 PM) After 20 years of that, I'd be praying for a "release"...you know what I mean. Are you talking about SEX |
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Apr 25 2007, 02:04 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 25 2007, 02:04 PM) To prescribe the death penalty for anything less than murder is a very slippery slope. It also eliminates any moral/biblical type reasonings for the punishment, i.e., "an eye for an eye." I like where you're going with this! Broomsticks gallore for all rapists! Due to cutbacks, we'll have to skimp on the lube. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Apr 25 2007, 02:12 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,761 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Lubbock/Dubai Member No.: 57 |
QUOTE (James @ Apr 25 2007, 03:04 PM) I like where you're going with this! Broomsticks gallore for all rapists! Due to cutbacks, we'll have to skimp on the lube. broomsticks? HA, make it interesting....possible a wooden baseball bat, one that is worn and does have splinters.... -------------------- bored...so i did this
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Apr 25 2007, 03:42 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (James @ Apr 25 2007, 03:04 PM) I like where you're going with this! Broomsticks gallore for all rapists! Due to cutbacks, we'll have to skimp on the lube.  Yet another ridiculous assumption by James. Prescribing a harsher version of current punishments, i.e.- life w/o parole, would keep the guy off the streets... it would punish him with every waking breath that he's locked in his iron box. This post has been edited by Psykopath: Apr 25 2007, 03:42 PM -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2007, 04:04 PM
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Well rape of a an ADULT WOMAN has been ruled unconsitutional for disproportionality of the punishment to the crime. (coker case) The question does still remain on whether children (or men heh) that are raped makes the death penalty open.
Honestly i just think that we need better sentencing than what we do now. In the marijuana dungeon case the guy had already raped a 12 yr old? Why was he even out? Then you have the case of the georgia kid who is doing mandatory like 20 yrs b/c at 18 he got a blow job from a 14-15 yr old (where if he would have actually had sex with her he wouldn't have been charged). The kid was an A student and had scholarships too. I don't think we need or should allow the death penalty in cases like this, we just need better legislation and sentencing that allows the scum to be locked up, away from the kids. -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2007, 04:18 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 25 2007, 10:39 AM) (assuming that anyone that young wouldnt be masochistic enough to like super rough sex) i've nailed some pretty wild 12yr olds in my day.... 
--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Apr 25 2007, 04:27 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 25 2007, 04:42 PM) Yet another ridiculous assumption by James. Prescribing a harsher version of current punishments, i.e.- life w/o parole, would keep the guy off the streets... it would punish him with every waking breath that he's locked in his iron box. bleh.... i've always had issues with this..... if you give someone the death penalty, just get it over with. if a dog has gone crazy and murdered a small child, you don't lock it in a cage for 20 years... you take it out back, put a bullet in it's head, and then go wash up for dinner. how much money are these people leeching off the system? fuck them, they aren't gonna get out anyway, clear some space! -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Apr 25 2007, 04:31 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 25 2007, 04:42 PM) Yet another ridiculous assumption by James. Prescribing a harsher version of current punishments, i.e.- life w/o parole, would keep the guy off the streets... it would punish him with every waking breath that he's locked in his iron box. You made me giggle. Thank you. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Apr 25 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 25 2007, 05:27 PM) bleh.... i've always had issues with this..... if you give someone the death penalty, just get it over with. if a dog has gone crazy and murdered a small child, you don't lock it in a cage for 20 years... you take it out back, put a bullet in it's head, and then go wash up for dinner. how much money are these people leeching off the system? fuck them, they aren't gonna get out anyway, clear some space! thats because you have trod that path several times before. -------------------- 32-bit whore
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Apr 25 2007, 06:12 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I read somewhere that its more expensive to go through with the death penalty than it is to leave someone in jail for the rest of their life.
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Apr 25 2007, 07:42 PM
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 Your Private Eye Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 60 |
I feel the death penalty is more humane than life in prison, but i dont think many others feel that way.
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Apr 25 2007, 07:52 PM
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 Fantastic! Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Portales, NM Member No.: 51 |
The irony of the justice system is that a 13 year old killing a person can get convicted as an adult, but a 13 year old can't be judged capable of giving consent to fuck around.
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Apr 25 2007, 08:08 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Yeah, and thats why I dont think 13 year olds should be tried as adults. Hell, I think there has been a 9 year old that has been tried as an adult before
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Apr 25 2007, 08:12 PM
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Your Private Eye Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 60 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 25 2007, 09:08 PM) Yeah, and thats why I dont think 13 year olds should be tried as adults. Hell, I think there has been a 9 year old that has been tried as an adult before It's just the ability to know right and wrong... or the right and wrong set up for us. |
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Apr 25 2007, 09:33 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 25 2007, 07:12 PM) I read somewhere that its more expensive to go through with the death penalty than it is to leave someone in jail for the rest of their life. Yep, 'tis true most of the time by far, due to all of the mandatory appeal costs and the actual price of the execution itself. That part answers Brandon's reply as well. QUOTE You made me giggle. Thank you. Did I...make you squeal? 
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