 Americans Don't Know How To Protest |
| Americans Don't Know How To Protest |
 Jan 21 2007, 03:54 AM
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Italian. Yes. Group: Members Posts: 767 Joined: 22-February 06 From: - Member No.: 18  |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVdH1G0KQt4
This is one area where the French have us beat. They protest by tearing through police, turning over cars and burning shit up. It's a shame, really  I wouldn't be so disillusioned to say that I would do all those things at the heat of the moment, unfortunately, but damn, it sorta saddens me that when the police hits, they don't hit back Protestors will ALWAYS outnumber police. Meh.
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Jan 21 2007, 04:39 AM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Timbo @ Jan 21 2007, 03:54 AM)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVdH1G0KQt4 This is one area where the French have us beat. They protest by tearing through police, turning over cars and burning shit up. It's a shame, really I wouldn't be so disillusioned to say that I would do all those things at the heat of the moment, unfortunately, but damn, it sorta saddens me that when the police hits, they don't hit back Protestors will ALWAYS outnumber police. Meh.we are a nation of chaos, not a nation of anarchy. i think that one of the great points of the way our system was designed is the ability for the public to protest the government to inspire change. not the active idea of trying to over throw it. --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 21 2007, 02:25 PM
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 FFFFFFFUCKKKKKKKKKKKK Group: Members Posts: 1,673 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jan 21 2007, 04:39 AM) we are a nation of chaos, not a nation of anarchy. i think that one of the great points of the way our system was designed is the ability for the public to protest the government to inspire change. not the active idea of trying to over throw it. well the French have that whole "overthrowing the government" thing in their blood, so. As I an occasion will kill a British person |
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Jan 21 2007, 02:35 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
the french would rather fight themselves than band together to fight someone else
history has proven this (except on few rare occasions) -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jan 21 2007, 02:44 PM
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 Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
I laughed at that video...
The protesters act like it's Kent State with complete and utter chaos and they are going to make people feel sorry for them because they get a taser shock. Maybe if they protested like the counter culture of the 60's and 70's instead of hiding behind a mask and spray painting crap they would get some respect. I was at the Texas capitol building during the Nazi rally and there were some people dressed just like the tards in this video and you know what, their cause isn't even known because all they want to do is start an uprising (violent). The problem is that this war (Iraq) may be unpopular but sadly, Americans have lost interest, so all of the protesting that goes on does do anything but get a few people fighting and losing sight over the purpose. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 21 2007, 03:25 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
Oh, and another thing, it's pretty bad when people who are protesting something don't really know why they are protesting...
 "Why are you protesting the recruiters?" "Because this is an illegal war" uh huh... ok, so let's protest recruiters. What?! The recruiters didn't call for an invasion and people aren't being drafted. Of course recruiters lie. Do people really think a potential recruit wants to see pictures of maimed soldiers? No. I don't agree with all of the recruitment methods (ie. the phone call at the end) but protesting recruiters because you can't organize enough people to protest the war is stupid. Also, if you're going to protest, get a permit so that they don't bring out the dogs. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 21 2007, 04:12 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jan 21 2007, 04:39 AM) we are a nation of chaos, not a nation of anarchy. i think that one of the great points of the way our system was designed is the ability for the public to protest the government to inspire change. not the active idea of trying to over throw it. Chaos = anarchy We are not a nation of chaos The French have a history of bloody revolution. In America, we elect new officials if we are unhappy with the government. In France, they start revolutions/protest to change their governments. In most cases, these overthrows are quite violent in nature. Europeans (not including British/Germans), usually don't have a problem with questioning authority, laws etc. We follow in the tradition of the British, who usually have peaceful transitions of power/ obey laws on some moral standing. QUOTE the french would rather fight themselves than band together to fight someone else history has proven this (except on few rare occasions) You need to study history... 100 years war anyone??? The only war that I can think of where the French were "split" was world war 2. That was due to two different factions in France. One was the catholic, conservative, jew hating French who sided with Hitler. The other was of course the secularist, communist, and the liberals who fought Hitler. They have a history of revolutions, this much is true but when push comes to shove the French will band together to fight off enemies. The stereotype of the cowardly French is undeserved. Just because they do not agree on all policy issues with the United States and follow their own interests does not make them cowards. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 21 2007, 04:22 PM
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 N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
Protesters need to begin carrying pepper spray and tasers to make things fair.
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Jan 21 2007, 05:09 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
What about semi automatic weapons with rubber bullets?
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 21 2007, 05:11 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 21 2007, 03:25 PM) Oh, and another thing, it's pretty bad when people who are protesting something don't really know why they are protesting... "Why are you protesting the recruiters?" "Because this is an illegal war" uh huh... ok, so let's protest recruiters. What?! The recruiters didn't call for an invasion and people aren't being drafted. Of course recruiters lie. Do people really think a potential recruit wants to see pictures of maimed soldiers? No. I don't agree with all of the recruitment methods (ie. the phone call at the end) but protesting recruiters because you can't organize enough people to protest the war is stupid. Also, if you're going to protest, get a permit so that they don't bring out the dogs. It defeats the purpose to protest legally. The only way things get changed is when daily life is disturbed. All you have to do is look at the civil rights movement with the sit ins and various protests/strikes that forced change. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 21 2007, 05:19 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 21 2007, 05:11 PM) It defeats the purpose to protest legally. The only way things get changed is when daily life is disturbed. All you have to do is look at the civil rights movement with the sit ins and various protests/strikes that forced change. But civil rights was different.... See, by protesting illegally and having the police bring out the tear gas and dogs the protesters are trying to get people to feel sorry for them. For the civil rights movement, this is fine because the issue was with the people protesting. It's a little different for this situation because the issue does not concern those protesting so to do it illegally and have the dogs come out does nothing to make me think about the issue. Just my opinion though. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 21 2007, 05:24 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Different situation, but what I said about protesting in general stands
Note: I did not watch the video, my internet is being weird This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Jan 21 2007, 05:24 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 21 2007, 05:26 PM
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N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
They tried shutting down a street to protest. Those who were in the street got tasered. I agree with hartman about not knowing why you're protesting. These people are seriously society's rejects.
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Jan 21 2007, 06:03 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
What is the point in protesting if you don't have some motive to protest??
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 21 2007, 06:31 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
The older people seemed to know the cause better. Most of the kids seem like the type who will protest something to make them feel better about their meaningless lives.
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jan 21 2007, 06:52 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 21 2007, 06:03 PM) What is the point in protesting if you don't have some motive to protest?? they don't have jobs or money and it's always somebody else's fault. |
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Jan 21 2007, 11:49 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Protesting is a 24 hour job man
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 22 2007, 07:22 AM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
chaos and anarchy are NOT the same thing. our government lives in chaos, a state where someone is always against and for something, it is conflicting and changing all the time by it's very nature, but the government is there, and it's obviously been effective enough so far to help america be the top world power, whatever means it used to get there. anarchy denounces all government, no matter the policys.
-------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 22 2007, 11:43 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
I have to disagree. Anarchy, by its very nature, is political/ social/ economic chaos. There are not leaders to pass laws, in fact there are no laws. Our government is not chaotic. If it were, then things would never get done. Politicians, people, policy choices are always going to be conflicting: if that is your definition of chaos then every political system (other then dictatorships) would be "chaotic". Since you obviously need the terms defined I will do so.
Definition of chaos: "a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order." Our government and system do not lack organization or order. If this were the case, then I expect you to explain how every president has taken over power peacefully after election results Definition of anarchy: "1.a state of society without government or law. 2.political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. 3.a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society. 4.confusion; chaos; disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith" (Dictionary.com). -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 22 2007, 01:05 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
You need to throw away your trash on the table brandon! That is my Chaos!
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jan 22 2007, 03:55 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (chook @ Jan 22 2007, 01:05 PM) You need to throw away your trash on the table brandon! That is my Chaos! trash on the table? i thought that was your stuff! seriously, i dunno what trash you're talking about -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 22 2007, 04:23 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
It's probably trash from all of the people that come over for D&D.
Seriously, they need to stop wrecking the house every session....leaving cups, wrappers, and bottles everywhere. -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2007, 04:48 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
i see domino's stuff everywhere downstairs. who had that?
-------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jan 22 2007, 10:51 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
Roommate situation resolved, through the power of prostitution!
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jan 22 2007, 11:00 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (chook @ Jan 22 2007, 10:51 PM) Roommate situation resolved, through the power of prostitution! giggity goo -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2007, 11:43 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Send the prostitutes to my house for summary execution...
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 23 2007, 11:37 AM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
can't kill undead prostitutes!
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jan 23 2007, 12:36 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
I beg to differ
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 23 2007, 01:13 PM
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 Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 23 2007, 12:36 PM) I beg to differ i think the word you are looking for is 'make them deader' -------------------- 32-bit whore
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