 MacWorld... the iPhone and Apple TV |
| MacWorld... the iPhone and Apple TV |
 Jan 9 2007, 12:25 PM
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I don't know how many of you are keeping up with this but the iPhone looks pretty damn cool. I don't care if you don't like Apple or not, once you see this thing you should be impressed.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-fr...e-jobs-keynote/ IMAP and POP support. Push-email (like Blackberry) provided by Yahoo. Service through Cingular. No keypad, all on-screen. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:10 PM
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 N O E S Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Hieuston, TX Member No.: 42 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 9 2007, 12:25 PM)  I don't know how many of you are keeping up with this but the iPhone looks pretty damn cool. I don't care if you don't like Apple or not, once you see this thing you should be impressed. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-fr...e-jobs-keynote/ IMAP and POP support. Push-email (like Blackberry) provided by Yahoo. Service through Cingular. No keypad, all on-screen. it is very sexxy. the $$ is not very sexxy. 
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Jan 9 2007, 01:16 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Tygriss @ Jan 9 2007, 01:10 PM) it is very sexxy. the $$ is not very sexxy. I do agree about the price tag. It does have an 8GB harddrive in the $599 model and that includes 2 years of service. Will be interesting to see how much service will be after those two years. Apparently Apple will be the main support provider for the phone as well. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:30 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
http://www.apple.com/iphone
Viewable voicemail is something I have wanted for a long, long, long time... :drooool: -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:37 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
The iPhone WILL be mine.
-------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:37 PM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
i'll wait a few months & get my friend to hook me up for free
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Jan 9 2007, 02:03 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
"apple sucks" reply
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Jan 9 2007, 05:55 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I think it looks neat. Hopefully they dont develop shitty software that will completely ruin the experience like iTunes did with the iPod
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Jan 9 2007, 06:07 PM
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 ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
I don't think it includes 2 years of service....its part of a deal where you agree to a 2 year contract ?
Unless I'm terribly mistaken. The ability to have a REAL browser looks nice, but that price is just ridiculous. Plus with everybody I know having their iPod's shit out on them, I'd be way too leary to spend that much. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Jan 9 2007, 07:14 PM
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 Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
i'll take a look once my sprint contract runs out... unless they plan on a CDMA version, which i'm not seeing.
besides, i JUST got my Treo 700wx. 
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Jan 9 2007, 08:42 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
i like the ability to view your voicemails... other than that i don't see the big deal. i've used a phone with a large touchscreen dialpad for the past 6 months and it's neat, but i'd hate to not have at least a "answer" & "hangup" button. i use those two buttons and the button i configured for voice command and that's pretty much it. i do slide out the keyboard for SMS and i gotta say that's way faster than touching the touchscreen with your fingernail or getting out a stylus. hopefully the thing will have some kind of voice recognition, because it really is difficult to try and use the touch screen when trying to multitask (driving, etc). the problem with a pure touch screen and no buttons is you actually have to look at the device.
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Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:42 PM) i like the ability to view your voicemails... other than that i don't see the big deal. i've used a phone with a large touchscreen dialpad for the past 6 months and it's neat, but i'd hate to not have at least a "answer" & "hangup" button. i use those two buttons and the button i configured for voice command and that's pretty much it. i do slide out the keyboard for SMS and i gotta say that's way faster than touching the touchscreen with your fingernail or getting out a stylus. hopefully the thing will have some kind of voice recognition, because it really is difficult to try and use the touch screen when trying to multitask (driving, etc). the problem with a pure touch screen and no buttons is you actually have to look at the device. The hangup and answer buttons are on the screen...  I do agree that for the most part, the phone is for early adopters. I have wanted visual voicemail for a very, very long time so that's a plus for me. You need to watch the demo that Jobs gives to really understand the touchscreen and some of the other features. It has a full featured keyboard and since it can be oriented in landscape or portrait, personal preference takes over. I have to look at my phone now and it has tons of buttons. Driving and cell phones shouldn't happen anyway, that's stupidity on the driver's part. The price tag is hefty. The fact that you can do push e-mail, full web-browsing, google maps integration with faux gps, and instant conference calls are all very cool. I will need to play with it though before I buy one. I am not gonna knock the interface till I try it. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:28 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM) The hangup and answer buttons are on the screen... so press those buttons without looking at the screen QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM) I have to look at my phone now and it has tons of buttons. so you're saying having all the buttons on a screen would prevent you from having to look at the phone???  QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM) You need to watch the demo that Jobs gives to really understand the touchscreen and some of the other features. It has a full featured keyboard and since it can be oriented in landscape or portrait, personal preference takes over. i do understand. my phone has an on screen keyboard that can be in landscape or portrait, i honestly would rather have a keyboard i can press with two thumbs than have to fingernail or stylus press each button. QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM) Driving and cell phones shouldn't happen anyway, that's stupidity on the driver's part. maybe for some people, but having to look at a screen won't help that any. i can voice dial and talk to people without ever even looking at my phone. QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 10 2007, 08:51 AM) I am not gonna knock the interface till I try it. i'm not necessarily knocking it, i just don't believe it's been well thought out. my phone, being very similiar, with a large, touch screen interface, would be much less useable without the couple of buttons on the front (and it has almost exactly the same display shown on the iphone, with the dialpad on the screen, answer/ignore buttons on screen and such). |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:55 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
I do agree with a few of your points and after reading a few usability guy's thoughts, some more buttons would be better. I don't think a full keyboard should be on it but you are right about the hang-up and call buttons.
I know that there will be voice dial, i just don't know how good it will be. Buttons have their place. We've been conditioned to use cellphones, we can be reconditioned. No one used a mouse until Apple introduced it.... |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
yeah i think a hangup/call button would be cool. a lot of consumer devices nowadays are operated by touch only once a person gets used to it (phones, remote controls, video game controllers, etc). it definitely has a nice big screen, does it show the dimensions/resolution of the screen anywhere?
and btw, no apple didn't introduce the mouse. |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:17 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 10 2007, 06:04 PM) and btw, no apple didn't introduce the mouse. To a mass consumer market, yes, yes they did. No one gave a crap what Xerox was doing (or Stanford's research division, Sun, Lisp Machines). Apple released the Lisa with a mouse and no one really noticed, it wasn't till 1984 with the Macintosh that people started using a mouse all of the time and as a main component of the machine. They may not have invented the mouse, but they did give it recognition and put it out there for people to use. I'm wrong semantically on who "introduced" the mouse to the computer world but damn right on who introduced it to mass users. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:35 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
just makin sure
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Jan 11 2007, 09:06 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Apple is being sued for trademark violations over this. Apparently, the name iPhone was already taken. I just heard this on the radio so I dont have a link.
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Jan 11 2007, 09:17 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Jan 11 2007, 09:06 AM) Apple is being sued for trademark violations over this. Apparently, the name iPhone was already taken. I just heard this on the radio so I dont have a link. Well originally this was settled with Cisco, but apparently yesterday they reneged... This will be interesting to watch. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 11 2007, 09:25 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
geez i woulda figured apple had every word in the english dictionary with an i concatenated to the front trademarked
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Jan 11 2007, 10:29 AM
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 FFFFFFFUCKKKKKKKKKKKK Group: Members Posts: 1,673 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 11 2007, 09:17 AM) Well originally this was settled with Cisco, but apparently yesterday they reneged... This will be interesting to watch. "oh shit this thing is going to make billions lets bring up that whole name thing again to get our bastarized share" |
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Jan 11 2007, 10:36 AM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
apple trademark request:
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Jan 11 2007, 10:40 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Seussninja @ Jan 11 2007, 10:29 AM) "oh shit this thing is going to make billions lets bring up that whole name thing again to get our bastarized share" My thoughts exactly. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 11 2007, 12:05 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
http://crunchgear.com/2007/01/08/windows-h...e-and-personal/
This was announced at CES. Looks kinda cool. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 11 2007, 12:39 PM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
http://blogs.cisco.com/news/2007/01/update...one_tradem.html
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Jan 11 2007, 03:48 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
looks like the windows home server thing is actually just an OS. not a complete computer.
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