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post Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM
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Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis
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cmac
post Feb 23 2006, 12:57 AM
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how is WOW different for warcraft?


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post Feb 23 2006, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Feb 23 2006, 12:57 AM)
how is WOW different for warcraft?

different from?
even if you already know, this is a good question for non-wowerz


warcraft 1-3, are aerial viewed strategy games where you command troops and such and have no real permanence on-line. The only real measurable progress was in the story part of the game that you would play by yourself completing different objectives.

world of warcraft (or WoW) is a Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG). In this game there are several realms, or servers, which host similar games, however your character is only saved to one server. The gameplay on here requires much more time and dedication for advancement. The average time for a player to reach level 60 (the current cap) is about 2 weeks of PLAYED TIME. After this, there are endless runs in a number of endgame instances hoping to get one small fraction of epic gear. This makes the game based much more around team work and communal attitudes. And of course, this game continues the original warcraft story.


For more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_warcraft
www.worldofwarcraft.com

wow = over 5.5 million players worldwide.

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post Feb 23 2006, 01:27 AM
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post Feb 23 2006, 01:31 AM
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60 Tauren Shaman on Ganis (2/8 Earthfury)
29 Orc Warrior on Ganis
11 Undead Priest on Ganis
17 Gnome Mage on Laughing Skull
12 Dwarf Hunter on Darkspear

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post Feb 23 2006, 01:41 AM
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let me lay down the hottness of the master list
not that it compares to alex's but . . .


Laughingskull: alliance
lvl 60 lock
lvl 11 priest

Mal'Ganis: horde
lvl 31 Mage (almost 32)
lvl 17 rogue

darkspear: alliance
lvl 20 warrior

Lothar: alliance (pve)
lvl 12 druid

various others below level 10 were omitted.
if anybody needs help on laughingskull let me know, i am the shit there.
not so hot on the other servers.
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post Feb 23 2006, 02:19 AM
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the old computer forum had a 7/8 page WoW thread.

'jes sayin.


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post Feb 23 2006, 02:22 AM
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38 Dwarven Hunter on Emerald Dream
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post Feb 23 2006, 05:15 AM
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oh and if you play wow and you do not know this site
http://www.thottbot.com/
then you are really missing out.

this answers a whole lot of where/who questions
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post Feb 23 2006, 05:21 AM
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Laughing Skull (ALLIANCE):
Jori - lvl 60 Paladin (7/8 LF) (2/8 LB)
Ladoras - lvl 47 Hunter
Chendy - lvl 41 Mage
Bimliss - lvl 31 Warrior
Sarand - lvl 29 Priest
Criz - lvl 27 Rogue
Belaris - lvl 24 Druid

Darkspear (ALLIANCE):
NickyG - lvl 14 Warlock

Mal'Ganis (HORDE):
Prariecake - lvl 37 Shaman
Caroseria - lvl 26 Warlock
lvl 12 warrior (I FORGET NAME)
Kamesh - lvl 11 Rogue


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post Feb 23 2006, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Feb 23 2006, 05:21 AM)
Laughing Skull (ALLIANCE):
Jori - lvl 60 Paladin (7/8 LF) (2/8 LB)
Ladoras - lvl 47 Hunter
Chendy - lvl 41 Mage
Bimliss - lvl 31 Warrior
Sarand - lvl 29 Priest
Criz - lvl 27 Rogue
Belaris - lvl 24 Druid

Darkspear (ALLIANCE):
NickyG - lvl 14 Warlock

Mal'Ganis (HORDE):
Prariecake - lvl 37 Shaman
Caroseria - lvl 26 Warlock
lvl 12 warrior (I FORGET NAME)
Kamesh - lvl 11 Rogue

bow to alex's huge amount of free time
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post Feb 23 2006, 07:54 AM
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All I have are horde chars on Burning Blade

Dogmeat - 56 Tauren Druid, crappy gear
Snarlbat - 24 Undead Mage
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post Feb 23 2006, 08:05 AM
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Dragonmaw - Alliance
Niebriar - 30 - NE Druid

Darkspear - Alliance
Jerey - 60 - H Paladin
Surprise - 48 - NE Rogue
Xin - 40 - H Mage
Schmelze - 23 - H Priest
Badba - 21 - H Warlock
Diablita - 20 - NE Hunter
Sillygoose - 19 - G Warrior
Alumirun - 13 - NE Druid

Greymane - Alliance
Snowena - 28 - NE Hunter
Solarion - 12 - NE Druid
Samarl - 11 - H Priest

Gurubashi - Horde
Ubala - 17 - Troll Rogue
Natam - 14 - Tauren Druid
Dixxie - 1 - O Hunter
Nordomel - 1 - U Priest

Hakkar - Alliance
Fhjerey - 1 - D Paladin

Maelstrom - Alliance (This was for the Pally Rally)
Fragan - 1 - D Paladin
Jerey - 1 - D Paladin

Balnazzar - Horde
Jeluz - 5 Troll Hunter

Mal'Ganis - Classified


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post Feb 23 2006, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 08:05 AM)
Surprise - 48 - NE Rogue

Best name for a rogue EVER
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post Feb 23 2006, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (Seussninja @ Feb 23 2006, 09:19 AM)
QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 08:05 AM)
Surprise - 48 - NE Rogue

Best name for a rogue EVER

No doubt rocky.gif

I was happy to see it available. About a week after I made her, someone messaged me telling me that they had the name since beta, but had just deleted it about a week before.


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:27 AM
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Darkspear (alliance)
60 druid
60 warrior
47 priest
29ish paladin
23 mage
23 rogue
23 hunter
9 warlock

Bloodscalp (horde)
43 priest
33 warrior

Mal'Ganis (horde)
14 rogue (first character)

And I have several other very low level characters spread out on other servers.


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:33 AM
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Would you like to use my TUF to do it?


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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 10:33 AM)
Would you like to use my TUF to do it?

?!?!?!?! Did you get to Exhalted?!?!?!?!!


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:33 AM)
QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 10:33 AM)
Would you like to use my TUF to do it?

?!?!?!?! Did you get to Exhalted?!?!?!?!!

laugh.gif No. I'm still saving all my horde body parts for when we're all on and in the same battleground. Maybe in a couple weeks I'll have a couple hundred of each.


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 10:39 AM)
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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 10:33 AM)
Would you like to use my TUF to do it?

?!?!?!?! Did you get to Exhalted?!?!?!?!!

laugh.gif No. I'm still saving all my horde body parts for when we're all on and in the same battleground. Maybe in a couple weeks I'll have a couple hundred of each.

awesome. Me and courtney were in AV till like 11:40 last night just waiting for horde to kill our general so we could leave. I helped some people take Irondeep and then did the supply quest 3 times. I think that's what I'm going to do from now on, just collect supplies.


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post Feb 23 2006, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 10:39 AM)
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Would you like to use my TUF to do it?

?!?!?!?! Did you get to Exhalted?!?!?!?!!

laugh.gif No. I'm still saving all my horde body parts for when we're all on and in the same battleground. Maybe in a couple weeks I'll have a couple hundred of each.

awesome. Me and courtney were in AV till like 11:40 last night just waiting for horde to kill our general so we could leave. I helped some people take Irondeep and then did the supply quest 3 times. I think that's what I'm going to do from now on, just collect supplies.

That's what I intend to do with Surprise if I ever get her to 50. I just send Jerey in there out of boredom. I'd respec him to make him more competitive, but about the time I did that, we'd finally end up going to something like MC where that spec would be bad.


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post Feb 23 2006, 12:29 PM
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Entertain me!


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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 12:37 PM)

I wouldn't need you to entertain me if I could see this picture at work. They have all WoW related materials blocked as of a few months ago. I can view some foreign sites sometimes, but not often.


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post Feb 23 2006, 12:46 PM
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Haha. Damn. Alright. Other ways shall be obtained.

Want to see how far into MC we can get with just you, courtney, shawn, and me?


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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 12:46 PM)
Haha. Damn. Alright. Other ways shall be obtained.

Want to see how far into MC we can get with just you, courtney, shawn, and me?

okay, I need to sneak in and get attuned, shouldn't take but 5 minutes. My warrior is attuned and I have the quest on my druid, just never did it. I bet we die pretty damn quick. We could start a Pickup group for MC! "LF39M for MC"


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post Feb 23 2006, 12:51 PM
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laugh.gif That could be fun.


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I went into ZG on a pickup group the other night. It sucked. It was a guild that just didn't have enough people for a full raid so they got some pickups. I asked if they were doing DKP or anything and they said that some mage from their guild was getting all Tokens and everything else was fair game. I didn't know they were doing a farming run, so all we were doing is killing trash mobs and the only things that dropped were the coins for that one mage. We only attempted 1 boss and wiped twice, so I bowed out and went to lbrs. The only good thing about it is that I got rep for the mobs killed in there, but I learned that the only good loot in that place is from collecting and turning in the coins, and from the bosses.


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There's some sweet goggles that engineers can make with ZG rep. The bloodvine lenses.


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post Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2006, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

How long is your queue?

Who has the good server now? wink.gif


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post Feb 23 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

How long is your queue?

Who has the good server now? wink.gif

the king of an unpopulated world is not a king at all.


and i have only had to wait in queue twice in the past few months. the only time it is really bad is saturday nights after 10 p.m.
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staghelm:

Amnorvend - Level 60 undead warlock
Luciela - Level 12 Nelf Priest

I've got a ton of others, but these are the only ones I play regularly anymore.


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post Feb 23 2006, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:15 PM)
QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

How long is your queue?

Who has the good server now? wink.gif

the king of an unpopulated world is not a king at all.


and i have only had to wait in queue twice in the past few months. the only time it is really bad is saturday nights after 10 p.m.

Dunno what server you play on, so I can't really say anymore smile.gif

Other than getting to 60 is easy when you're not solo all the way, and even then, it's easy. Only minor frustrations along the way.


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post Feb 23 2006, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 01:18 PM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:15 PM)
QUOTE (James @ Feb 23 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

How long is your queue?

Who has the good server now? wink.gif

the king of an unpopulated world is not a king at all.


and i have only had to wait in queue twice in the past few months. the only time it is really bad is saturday nights after 10 p.m.

Dunno what server you play on, so I can't really say anymore smile.gif

Other than getting to 60 is easy when you're not solo all the way, and even then, it's easy. Only minor frustrations along the way.

having a large guild really helps with coordinating multiple 40 man raids
which is a pretty neat part of the game

and i play on laughing skull
if you read the first quoted post.
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Yeah, but I hate large guild drama. I wish they'd make more instances that can be 5/10 manned. I don't see why blizz thinks that hard means 40 man raid.


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QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

OR.....you could have the decency to level to 60 on 2 characters without the help of a large guild.


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Not trying to steal from Zetec, but wow fits here,
so,

lvl 60 warlock on laughingskull
8/8 dreadmist 3/8 felheart

lvl 32 mage (horde) on mal'ganis

Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life.

if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif

OR.....you could have the decency to level to 60 on 2 characters without the help of a large guild.



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(moving wow talk back to the appropriate thread) Courtney and I were saying at lunch that we're glad you joined our server because you're always willing to help and seldom ask anything in return. She said you're like the opposite of Jason when he would constantly ask us for help with everything and then when he's out of the guild for like 6 months the first time we group with him he starts asking us for materials. haha


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Thanks. It's what I do. smile.gif

About a month before that, I gave him some mats for something else, too. His guild must suck though. That paladin friend of mine was out of the game for a few months, four or five. Then, when he comes back, in like September, he has nothing. My equipment was better than his. Now, he's like rank 10 or 11 and decked out in full Judgement. And he wasn't even guilded until about a month ago. So yeah, either IFB sucks or Jason sucks. Prob a mix of both.


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Thanks. It's what I do. smile.gif

About a month before that, I gave him some mats for something else, too. His guild must suck though. That paladin friend of mine was out of the game for a few months, four or five. Then, when he comes back, in like September, he has nothing. My equipment was better than his. Now, he's like rank 10 or 11 and decked out in full Judgement. And he wasn't even guilded until about a month ago. So yeah, either IFB sucks or Jason sucks. Prob a mix of both.

I wish buck would hurry up and hit end game. Hopefully when patch 1.10 comes out it will have the new loot tables and items they are promising. Blizz is saying some of the epics are obtainable through soloing, so hopefully our 5 man wrecking crew can get some good gear. I really wish blizz would stop slacking and add more stuff that's hard but accessible to 5 man groups like we can muster up, or 10 man at the most.


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Minor Note: The Talent Calculator will be up momentariry.

So the priest talent changes have been unveiled through the interactive calculator and I thought it would be a good idea to discuss what was revealed. My goal is only to outline a most of the changes, so it's likely that I might have left out something small here or there. I encourage players to take an extensive pass using the calculator which has been linked in the news post I created on the front page of our website. After reading my comments, please feel free to use this thread to discuss of any aspect of the priest talents.

Going from left to right, I'll start the discussion off with the Discipline tree. You'll immediately notice that Wand Specialization has been made a first tier talent. I feel that this is great for two reasons. First, previously neither available tier 1 Discipline talents felt very exciting or rewarding when investing your points into them at early levels. I feel this is no longer the case. Second, you won't have to compete with Improved Power Word: Shield or Fortitude to receive this talent. Moving on to tier 2 talents, Silent Resolve will now reduce the threat caused by all spells, rather than simply damage spells. You're probably also noticing that Improved Power Word: Shield no longer reduces the duration of the weakened soul effect and I'm sure you're freaking out.

Worry not, this is because the core ability, Power Word: Shield has been improved to only cause a weakened soul effect of 15 seconds, which previously required three talent points, hence the change detailed below.

The Improved Power Word: Shield talent will now increase the damage absorbed by 15%. The new focused casting effect of Martyrdom increases resistance to Interrupt effects by 20%, in addition to preventing the caster from losing casting time when taking damage. Inner Focus as you can see is no longer a 21-point talent, and now available by investing only a mere ten points into the tree. Also, the cooldown has been reduced to three minutes. Competing with the ability is Meditation, also previously a 21-point talent. This still offers an increase to mana regeneration while casting by 15%, however, now only costs three points.

Moving onto the 15-point talents, you can see that Improved Inner Fire remains the same. What we changed is the core ability. Next patch Inner Fire will provide 50% more armor than before. The duration will also be increased to ten minutes but now the effect will be removed when the caster endures twenty successful damaging melee or ranged hits. We've also increased the mana cost and removed the melee attack power boost from the ability as such offers the priest very little benefit.

The new 21-point talents are Divine Spirit and Mental Strength.

Finally, the new 31-point talent for the Discipline tree is called Power Infusion. This ability infuses the target with power, increasing spell damage and healing by 20% for 15 seconds, and can be used every three minutes. This spell is very similar to Arcane Power, however it can be cast on other players, enhances healing as well as damage, and doesn't increase the mana cost of spells cast while under its effect.

This is a long thread, so bear with me... wink.gif

I have a feeling most priests have been really curious to see what we've done with the Holy Tree. Well, fortunately the wait is over. You'll notice two things right off the bat. Improved Renew offers the same level of improvement for only three points, and a brand new talent is immediately available - Healing Focus. This talent, for only two points will gives players a 70% chance of avoiding interruption caused by damage when casting any healing spell.

Next at the five-point mark you'll notice another brand new talent - Spell Warding, which reduces all damage taken by 10%. That which was previously a 21-point talent now stands next to it, Divine Fury. In addition to being available much sooner, this talent now reduces the casting time of Smite, Holy Fire, Heal and Greater Heal spells by 0.1 sec.

Remember, with this talent (available very early in the tree) Greater Heal will cast in 2.5 seconds!

I'm actually pretty excited about what's next. Holy Nova is now an eleven-point talent and has no cooldown whatsoever (of course universal global cooldown is still in-effect). This means that much like Improved Arcane Explosion, priests can spam small bursts of threatless holy goodness which both damages foes and heals friends. The mana cost has been increased, so it's not as efficient as before. We actually had alot of fun testing this spell in both PvE and PvP, and I'm excited to read through player feedback when this is live on the PTRs.

Moving on to the competing eleven-point talents, another new ability is revealed, Blessed Recovery. This passive ability will heal 25% of the damage received over 6 seconds after being struck by a melee or critical ranged hit. Lastly, take a look at Inspiration. This talent now only costs three points.

Holy Reach is another new talent available to the priests. For two points, players can increases the range of their Smite and Holy Fire spells and the radius of their Prayer of Healing and Holy Nova spells by 20%. Improved Healing has the same effect and is found in the same place, however, only three points need to be invested in order to gain the 15% mana cost reduction to those healing spells. The last talent on this tier is called Searing Light which increases the damage of Holy Fire and Smite by 10%.

Don't forget, Holy Fire is now a core ability and the casting time reduced to 3.5 seconds. Which of course becomes 3 seconds with the appropriate talent (the same talent which also benefits the casting time of Heal and Greater Heal.

Another great new passive ability talent - Spiritual Guidance, is located at the 21-point mark. This talent will permanently improve the priests spell damage and healing by up to 25% of their total spirit. Pretty nice boost, if I do say so myself.

I must admit, the next improvement has me awfully excited. Spirit of Redemption, (you know that angel that lets everyone know you've died and that their probably about to die as well:), will now allow the priest to become the angel, upon death. For ten seconds, the priest can cast any healing spell completely free! This allows the strategic player much better control in preventing a wipe.

As you can see the new 26-point talent is Spiritual Healing, which as before offers the priest a 10% increase to all healing spells. Placing points this far into the tree, assuming you've picked up Improved Renew and Spiritual Guidance will most definitely make the Holy Priest's heals stand out.

It should be no surprise that the final rank Holy talent is brand new, seeing that Holy Nova is now an 11-point talent. This new spell, called Lightwell will create a holy lightwell near the priest. At final rank, friendly targets can click the lightwell to restore 1600 health over a period of ten seconds. The lightwell has five charges, meaning, up to five players can use the lightwell before it expires. Our testing has shown that this ability works great in both smaller dungeons and raids, often times allowing the lower maintenance party members to take advantage of the healing properties of this well, while the priest and other healing classes focused on the main tank or whomever was taking heavy damage.

One other thing I'd like to mention before moving on to the Shadow tree is the fact that Focus Casting has been removed completely. Essentially, with the improvements to Martyrdom and the new talent Healing Focus, it wasn't as valuable a talent as before.

So, what improvements have we made to Shadow you ask? You'll actually notice that very little changes were made, so fortunately, you're almost done reading my post. smile.gif

Shadow Affinity only costs three points now, instead of five. Improved Fade will no longer increase the duration of the spell, but rather decrease the cooldown by a total of six seconds. Shadow Weaving is available for 16-points. While Vampiric Embrace remains the same, a new talent is available called Improved Vampiric Embrace. For two points, the amount healed by Vampiric Embrace will be increased by 10%.

Well, this pretty much sums up the changes. It's likely we'll make some more adjustments and tweaks based upon what's revealed through testing on the PTRs. As a priest, I'm excited. How about you guys? Post your thoughts...

Sidenote: Try not to quote my entire thread, if possible please. Threads break much sooner that way, and I'd like to get as much out of this discussion thread as possible, before creating a "part 2".


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[quote=JRockTTU,Feb 23 2006, 02:51 PM] Oh yeah, and I started the other WoW thread that got up to like 8 pages. You have insulted me to the point that I must take my own life. [/QUOTE]
if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif [/QUOTE]
OR.....you could have the decency to level to 60 on 2 characters without the help of a large guild. [/quote]
i was not talking about using the guild for leveling, james was.
i never really got any help or anything, i just use them for raid groups.
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Wow. Those are some nice changes. I'm afraid to go read the bitching that is definitely happening right now in the paladin forums laugh.gif


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[quote=TetraGrammaton Cleric,Feb 23 2006, 05:04 PM] if you are going to kill yourself at least have the decency to make it to level 60 on a good server first . . . tongue.gif [/QUOTE]
OR.....you could have the decency to level to 60 on 2 characters without the help of a large guild. [/QUOTE]
i was not talking about using the guild for leveling, james was.
i never really got any help or anything, i just use them for raid groups. [/quote]
I wasn't talking about using a guild for levelling?

I was talking about levelling a 60 on any PvP server is just as easy as any other PvP server. Only difference being that you might have more jackasses on your server, but it doesn't matter. They get bored.


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[quote=James,Feb 23 2006, 05:13 PM] OR.....you could have the decency to level to 60 on 2 characters without the help of a large guild. [/QUOTE]
i was not talking about using the guild for leveling, james was.
i never really got any help or anything, i just use them for raid groups. [/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about using a guild for levelling?

I was talking about levelling a 60 on any PvP server is just as easy as any other PvP server. Only difference being that you might have more jackasses on your server, but it doesn't matter. They get bored. [/quote]
This is incorrect. Try levelling Horde or Alliance on Mal'Ganis. Tell me if there's a difference in which is easier.


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[quote=JRockTTU,Feb 23 2006, 05:15 PM] i was not talking about using the guild for leveling, james was.
i never really got any help or anything, i just use them for raid groups. [/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about using a guild for levelling?

I was talking about levelling a 60 on any PvP server is just as easy as any other PvP server. Only difference being that you might have more jackasses on your server, but it doesn't matter. They get bored. [/QUOTE]
This is incorrect. Try levelling Horde or Alliance on Mal'Ganis. Tell me if there's a difference in which is easier. [/quote]
Alright. But when I'm not around for the next couple months and then I come back and you say "Where have you been?" I'm gonna link you to this post laugh.gif


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auntbecky -- that is the one of the coolest WoW nicks ever.


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what would uncle jessie do?


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QUOTE (woody @ Feb 24 2006, 03:18 AM)
he'd nail becky

lori loughlin and john stamos

thats like a match made by GOD HIMSELF

aka bob saget

and uncle jessie is the son of god. WWUJD?


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QUOTE (zetec @ Feb 24 2006, 02:52 AM)
auntbecky -- that is the one of the coolest WoW nicks ever.


only UncleJessie or JohnStamos would be cooler

The guild is called Full House. Both Jason and Courtney play. Courtney has a toon named AuntBecky...that and I think Jason already posted earlier that his druid is named UncleJesse laugh.gif

The guild ranks use to be like Tanners, Kibblers/Gibblers/whatevers, and some other things, but she changed them recently and I'm not sure why.


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new priest info available today:

http://www.worldofwar.net/shredder/index.p...bold&&pid=25727

it's supposedly on the main wow site but i can't see that from work smile.gif
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:19 PM)
new priest info available today:

http://www.worldofwar.net/shredder/index.p...bold&&pid=25727

it's supposedly on the main wow site but i can't see that from work smile.gif

I can't see that kind of stuff from work either, but if you go up a little farther in this thread then Jim posted it yesterday.


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I posted that yesturday...


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Some of the new stuff is pretty cool.


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So, what kind of adventures will the gang from Full House encounter tonight?


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sorry nerf shamans reminded me
FROST SHOCK

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QUOTE (TetraGrammaton Cleric @ Feb 25 2006, 01:27 AM)
sorry nerf shamans reminded me
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Haha that was awesome!


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I made the alt. He's a warlock and kind of looks like him, too. I'll play him later and start up the charter.


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That frost shock video made me laugh. One of my friend's yesturday was bitching about Shaman being overpowered, and then he started playing his 60 mage (that somoene else gave him...) and was taking on 4-5 level sixties at one time. Bitching for no reason.


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Wow. 4-5 lvl 60s? Were they afk?


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Yeah. He had all of the uber trinkets, which gave him close to 750 more spell power PLUS arcane power, which adds 35% to damage. So, he was hitting people for about 2,250 on pyroblasts and 1750 on fireballs. Frost nova, poly one, take out one, take out the poly, blink, by the time they catch up to you, frost nova, poly one, take out one, take out the poly.


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Interesting, so he must've been killing weaklings or people that just didn't know how to work together. That sucks, but it's becoming quite common. Damn raids.


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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 24 2006, 02:06 PM)
I can't see that kind of stuff from work either, but if you go up a little farther in this thread then Jim posted it yesterday.

oh well somebody had told me it had just came out so i didn't expect there to be any previous posts on it.

EXCUSE ME

what is it with fuckin people's "ZOMG I POSTED THAT ALREADY" shit? like a buncha damn 5 year olds.
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 25 2006, 10:39 AM)
oh well somebody had told me it had just came out so i didn't expect there to be any previous posts on it.

EXCUSE ME

what is it with fuckin people's "ZOMG I POSTED THAT ALREADY" shit? like a buncha damn 5 year olds.



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QUOTE (Jim @ Feb 25 2006, 09:23 AM)
That frost shock video made me laugh. One of my friend's yesturday was bitching about Shaman being overpowered, and then he started playing his 60 mage (that somoene else gave him...) and was taking on 4-5 level sixties at one time. Bitching for no reason.

Shammies have been left alone for so long while other classes get buffed that there's no way they're overpowered anymore. Have you ever looked at their talent tree? It's the most worthless tree ever. Why blizz chose mages to be reviewed first I'll never know.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:25 AM
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Shaman trees aren't worthless. They can be buffed, but calling them wothless is stupid.

He was bitching about how Shaman get an animal shape ability... WIthout even knowing what Ghost Wolf even does...


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:26 AM
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No class is worthless.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:30 AM
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Paladin's are. I mean, who wants someone that can off-tank, heal, and buff? God, so worthless. They should be replaced with Shaman

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post Feb 25 2006, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 25 2006, 10:39 AM)
oh well somebody had told me it had just came out so i didn't expect there to be any previous posts on it.

EXCUSE ME

what is it with fuckin people's "ZOMG I POSTED THAT ALREADY" shit? like a buncha damn 5 year olds.

I'm not trying to be the "ZOMG I POSTED THAT ALREADY" guy, but it's in the SAME DAMN THREAD in HUGE quotes, and this thread isn't long at all.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Feb 25 2006, 11:30 AM)
Paladin's are. I mean, who wants someone that can off-tank, heal, and buff? God, so worthless. They should be replaced with Shaman

/sarcasm

lol, james healed our UBRS group last night. A PUG with a bunch of assclowns and james did like 70 some-odd percent of the healing while courtney did like 15ish and I did 11 sad.gif We never even came close to a wipe and only had deaths because people were pulling when none of the healers had mana.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:37 AM
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Hahah, that's pretty funny.

Paladin's are a great class. It just seems that mainly retards only play that class sad.gif It makes me sad.

Friend's comment on SHaman: "They're druids with Totems."

I'm like, "What the hell? They're nothing like druids..."


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Feb 25 2006, 11:30 AM)
Paladin's are. I mean, who wants someone that can off-tank, heal, and buff? God, so worthless. They should be replaced with Shaman

/sarcasm

Never had a place that an off-tank was needed, so I don't know about the validity of that. Sarcasm noted. I'd still take a shaman on alliance just so I didn't have to roll on another server.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:46 AM
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Paladin's are very good off-tanks (or so I hear). Just go to UBRS and have someone off tank one of the dragon groups. You'll see how good you can be (if you're spec'd properly).


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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Feb 25 2006, 11:34 AM)
lol, james healed our UBRS group last night. A PUG with a bunch of assclowns and james did like 70 some-odd percent of the healing while courtney did like 15ish and I did 11 sad.gif We never even came close to a wipe and only had deaths because people were pulling when none of the healers had mana.

I clocked 55% of the healing with a 21% crit rate on my damage meter. Had you, Courtney, and Katanna accounting for the rest of the healing with a pretty even split. But yeah. It was a lot. I was kind of surprised we didn't wipe on Drakk. Half a sec later and Divine Shield wouldn't have saved that last 7 health I had and it definitely would've been a wipe. He was still at like 70% health when that happened.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Feb 25 2006, 11:25 AM)
Shaman trees aren't worthless. They can be buffed, but calling them wothless is stupid.

He was bitching about how Shaman get an animal shape ability... WIthout even knowing what Ghost Wolf even does...

Well, yes there's a few good abilities in the shaman tree, but have you looked at the enhancement tree? I mean, you think the warlock tree has too many useless abilities, the enhancement tree's top tier talent is the most worthless in the entire thing.


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post Feb 25 2006, 11:56 AM
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http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-paladin/756527.htm

Try viewing that from work, Jason. It might let you read blue posts.


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I gave in. I'm installing WoW again as we speak sad.gif


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 25 2006, 03:23 PM)
I gave in. I'm installing WoW again as we speak sad.gif

stop making dupe threads

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post Feb 25 2006, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Feb 25 2006, 05:06 PM)
stop making dupe threads

BALEETED

DIE! Or here I am on the couch?


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Yeah, I'll start playing again over Spring Break...probably going Horde on Bloodscalp and then starting a character on whatever server and on whichever side has the most Techsans playing.

And I'll keep working with my lvl 37ish undead warlock on Draenor.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 25 2006, 03:23 PM)
I gave in. I'm installing WoW again as we speak sad.gif

Going to complain some more about druids? smile.gif
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 25 2006, 04:15 PM)
Yeah, I'll start playing again over Spring Break...probably going Horde on Bloodscalp and then starting a character on whatever server and on whichever side has the most Techsans playing.

And I'll keep working with my lvl 37ish undead warlock on Draenor.

You are welcome to join us on Darkspear, Alliance.
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QUOTE (Junsui @ Feb 25 2006, 04:16 PM)
You are welcome to join us on Darkspear, Alliance.

What class do you need?


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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 25 2006, 04:17 PM)
What class do you need?

Anything you want to play.
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QUOTE (Junsui @ Feb 25 2006, 04:19 PM)
Anything you want to play.

cool...I may do warlock since I'm most familiar with them. Plus I love my little demonic pets. wub.gif


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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 25 2006, 04:22 PM)
cool...I may do warlock since I'm most familiar with them. Plus I love my little demonic pets. wub.gif

That works. We don't have anyone with a 60 warlock.
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Almost to 40 and just about have enough to buy my mount + training.

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