Bush submits new terror detainee bill Options

[dauss]

Unfortunately the article disappeared, but it is still cached on google.
Bush submits new terror detainee bill

U.S. citizens suspected of terror ties might be detained indefinitely and barred from access to civilian courts under legislation proposed by the Bush administration, say legal experts reviewing an early version of the bill.

A 32-page draft measure is intended to authorize the Pentagon's tribunal system, established shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks to detain and prosecute detainees captured in the war on terror. The tribunal system was thrown out last month by the Supreme Court.

Administration officials, who declined to comment on the draft, said the proposal was still under discussion and no final decisions had been made.

Senior officials are expected to discuss a final proposal before the Senate Armed Services Committee next Wednesday.

According to the draft, the military would be allowed to detain all "enemy combatants" until hostilities cease. The bill defines enemy combatants as anyone "engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners who has committed an act that violates the law of war and this statute."

Legal experts said Friday that such language is dangerously broad and could authorize the military to detain indefinitely U.S. citizens who had only tenuous ties to terror networks like al Qaeda.

"That's the big question ... the definition of who can be detained," said Martin Lederman, a law professor at Georgetown University who posted a copy of the bill to a Web blog.

Scott L. Silliman, a retired Air Force Judge Advocate, said the broad definition of enemy combatants is alarming because a U.S. citizen loosely suspected of terror ties would lose access to a civilian court — and all the rights that come with it. Administration officials have said they want to establish a secret court to try enemy combatants that factor in realities of the battlefield and would protect classified information.

The administration's proposal, as considered at one point during discussions, would toss out several legal rights common in civilian and military courts, including barring hearsay evidence, guaranteeing "speedy trials" and granting a defendant access to evidence. The proposal also would allow defendants to be barred from their own trial and likely allow the submission of coerced testimony.

Senior Republican lawmakers have said they were briefed on the general discussions and have some concerns but are awaiting a final proposal before commenting on specifics.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England are expected to discuss the proposal in an open hearing next Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee. Military lawyers also are scheduled to testify Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The legislation is the administration's response to a June 29 Supreme Court decision, which concluded the Pentagon could not prosecute military detainees using secret tribunals established soon after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The court ruled the tribunals were not authorized by law and violated treaty obligations under the Geneva Conventions, which established many international laws for warfare.

The landmark court decision countered long-held assertions by the Bush administration that the president did not need permission from Congress to prosecute "enemy combatants" captured in the war on terror and that al Qaeda members were not subject to Geneva Convention protections because of their unconventional status.

"In a time of ongoing armed conflict, it is neither practicable nor appropriate for enemy combatants like al Qaeda terrorists to be tried like American citizens in federal courts or courts-martial," the proposal states.

The draft proposal contends that an existing law — passed by the Senate last year after exhaustive negotiations between the White House and Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz. — that bans cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment should "fully satisfy" the nation's obligations under the Geneva Conventions.

Sen. John W. Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Friday he expects to take up the detainee legislation in September.

Probably like other draconian acts that have been passed, it will fly through and get passed without any changes, or anyone reading it.

[Jim]

But, national security, wah.

Wait, this should never work because it's unconstitutional. It's one of the biggest things in the Bill of Rights, as well...

[Spectatrix]

Obviously this is a violation of the 6th Ammendment and, depending on the interpretation of "hostilities against the US", could violate the 1st Ammendment as well.

[GOB]

aww, poor terrorists.

[Mommy]

US citizens not being tried in civilian courts: yeah ok red flag maybe. People like Timothy Mcvey(sp) I wouldnt have any qualms about it though. Screw them

some fucking towel head accused of terrorism: I dont give a fuck as long as they have solid PROOF that he did it.

[Psykopath]

US citizens not being tried in civilian courts: yeah ok red flag maybe. People like Timothy Mcvey(sp) I wouldnt have any qualms about it though. Screw them

some fucking towel head accused of terrorism: I dont give a fuck as long as they have solid PROOF that he did it.

white trash idiot

[pysex]

[Mommy]

white trash idiot

There is a difference between a black person and a nigger.
There is a difference between a Arab and a towel head or sand nigger, if you will.



It makes me laugh when people say that. Its just to justify them saying a racist remark. I, on the other hand, am not a racist. I dont like Muslims, but I do like Arabs. I just like the word towel head. It makes me giggle. Then again so does honkey and cracker.

Anyways, Im not white trash. White trash live in trailer parks, wear wife beaters, and talk about "linching niggers" of which I do not do. I dont like the Muslim religion one bit.

[Psykopath]

Based off of the above post...


WHITE TRASH COMMENT STANDS.


Your blanket hatred for Muslims is absolutely idiotic and backwards. I'm assuming you just hate Muslims (BTW: Islam is the religion, not "Muslim"...) because of 9/11?

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Aug 16 2006, 10:38 PM

[Jim]

Because all Muslims are bred to hate America. It says so in the Koran, I read it.

[Mommy]

Based off of the above post...


WHITE TRASH COMMENT STANDS.


Your blanket hatred for Muslims is absolutely idiotic and backwards. I'm assuming you just hate Muslims (BTW: Islam is the religion, not "Muslim"...) because of 9/11?

No, I stood up for Muslims for quite a long time after 9/11. About ooooooo a year and a half ago, I read some interesting information from a reliable source and have studied the Koran. It really is a very violent religion, and unlike Christianity, it doesnt have a New Testament. The New Testament pretty much shows that Christianity is a peaceful religion. The Old Testament, yeah I'll give in that its violent. I like all sorts of religions and philosphies: Buddhism, Hinduism, etc etc but Im sorry I dont like the Muslim religion. I dont like Bush either. Does that make me hippy white trash? Yes, I made a blanket generalization. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, like Lauryn Hill for instance. I like her and I think she is Muslim. In all seriousness though, of course there are nice people out there who practice te Muslim religion, but generally its a very hateful religion.

[Jim]

No, I stood up for Muslims for quite a long time after 9/11. About ooooooo a year and a half ago, I read some interesting information from a reliable source and have studied the Koran. It really is a very violent religion, and unlike Christianity, it doesnt have a New Testament. The New Testament pretty much shows that Christianity is a peaceful religion. The Old Testament, yeah I'll give in that its violent. I like all sorts of religions and philosphies: Buddhism, Hinduism, etc etc but Im sorry I dont like the Muslim religion. I dont like Bush either. Does that make me hippy white trash? Yes, I made a blanket generalization. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, like Lauryn Hill for instance. I like her and I think she is Muslim. In all seriousness though, of course there are nice people out there who practice te Muslim religion, but generally its a very hateful religion.

The New Testatment shows Christianity as peaceful, yes. But what do CHRISTIAN's show of Christianity? I mean, we can't forget about forcing their beliefs on others, the Crusades, and God's War on Terror (oops, I mean Bush's War on Terror).

[Psykopath]

Blanket statements are FUN!


And it's all about interpretation when it comes to religion and how it is practiced.

[Jim]

Blanket statements are FUN!


And it's all about interpretation when it comes to religion and how it is practiced.

No it's not. We're here to discuss that Muslims are violent. It says it in the Koran god damnit.

[Mommy]

Blanket statements are FUN!


And it's all about interpretation when it comes to religion and how it is practiced.

I will give you that, but there are countries over there that breed their kids to all practice the same way. Unlike most, I dont have a problem with Lebanon nor her people. Most of her citizens are good, law abiding citizens. Its that damn Hezbollah. I do have a problem with countries like Iran though. Do note that a large portion of Lebanon's people are Christian and not Muslim.

[GOB]

The New Testatment shows Christianity as peaceful, yes. But what do CHRISTIAN's show of Christianity? I mean, we can't forget about forcing their beliefs on others, the Crusades, and God's War on Terror (oops, I mean Bush's War on Terror).

hey blanket statements are fun

[Psykopath]

I will give you that, but there are countries over there that breed their kids to all practice the same way. Unlike most, I dont have a problem with Lebanon nor her people. Most of her citizens are good, law abiding citizens. Its that damn Hezbollah. I do have a problem with countries like Iran though. Do note that a large portion of Lebanon's people are Christian and not Muslim.

I know many areas in America that breed their children to be just as intolerant as those in the majority of Iran and other such 'indoctrinated' regions of the world.

See: Deep south, areas of the midwest, yadda yadda

[Jim]

I will give you that, but there are countries over there that breed their kids to all practice the same way. Unlike most, I dont have a problem with Lebanon nor her people. Most of her citizens are good, law abiding citizens. Its that damn Hezbollah. I do have a problem with countries like Iran though. Do note that a large portion of Lebanon's people are Christian and not Muslim.

Then your problem shouldn't be with Islam at all but with parents forcing children to practice something corrupt (ie, teaching kids to be racist or what have you).

[Psykopath]

hey blanket statements are fun

WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS!!


HI CHARLIE

[GOB]

HEY ZACH

[Psykopath]

HEY ZACH

HOW'S YOUR TUBE OF THE INTERNETZ THESE DAYS ?

[pysex]

I doubt the bill is for "U.S. citizens" as it would be a major transgression against our Bill of Rights. I see this being more for those that are already in custody who certainly aren't citizens and who certainly don't deserve the rights granted by our Constitution.

That's what I find funny about all of this. Muhammed Jalad Balakadar is arrested in Afghanistan because he's planting C4 under the hood of a convoy truck and imprisoned at a U.S. facility. Then everyone cries about them being abused and how their rights are being violated when they don't even have rights in their own country.

Stop trying to make the world huggie bear land and realize there are people out to fuck us. Not because Bush is stirring the damn hornet's nest but because we are "evil". Infidels to be erased from this world.

WHY?! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS GOOD...would you want to protect them. These guys aren't going to love you more because you set them free. They'll turn right around and shoot you in the fucking back because THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.


Stop whining. The authorities aren't out there arresting Mary Rubelstien because her homemade apple pie looked like a bomb. They're protecting your ass from Derkasherpamubad walking into your coffee shop and pushing the OH NOES button.

[Psykopath]

Ah, Foucault.....you are a brilliant man.

[pysex]

Ah, Foucault.....you are a brilliant man.

Yes.

Chalk another one up there Thomas....Under Bloated Knowitall Philosopher.

[Psykopath]

Yes.

Chalk another one up there Thomas....Under Bloated Knowitall Philosopher.

um, ok.


::EDIT::
'Twas making reference to the "us versus them" arguement from Foucault...didn't mean to upset your anti-philosopher balance!

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Aug 16 2006, 11:37 PM

[Mommy]

I doubt the bill is for "U.S. citizens" as it would be a major transgression against our Bill of Rights. I see this being more for those that are already in custody who certainly aren't citizens and who certainly don't deserve the rights granted by our Constitution.

That's what I find funny about all of this. Muhammed Jalad Balakadar is arrested in Afghanistan because he's planting C4 under the hood of a convoy truck and imprisoned at a U.S. facility. Then everyone cries about them being abused and how their rights are being violated when they don't even have rights in their own country.

Stop trying to make the world huggie bear land and realize there are people out to fuck us. Not because Bush is stirring the damn hornet's nest but because we are "evil". Infidels to be erased from this world.

WHY?! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS GOOD...would you want to protect them. These guys aren't going to love you more because you set them free. They'll turn right around and shoot you in the fucking back because THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.


Stop whining. The authorities aren't out there arresting Mary Rubelstien because her homemade apple pie looked like a bomb. They're protecting your ass from Derkasherpamubad walking into your coffee shop and pushing the OH NOES button.

yup. very true.

[pysex]

I know many areas in America that breed their children to be just as intolerant as those in the majority of Iran and other such 'indoctrinated' regions of the world.

See: Deep south, areas of the midwest, yadda yadda

That's not a very good example because we at least have the freedom of information in our country so people can form their own opinions.

[Jim]

That's not a very good example because we at least have the freedom of information in our country so people can form their own opinions.

The freedom of information that isn't available to some places? Or the freedom of information that parents beat their kids over if they're looking at?

[Psykopath]

The freedom of information that isn't available to some places? Or the freedom of information that parents beat their kids over if they're looking at?

my point exactly.

[pysex]

The freedom of information that isn't available to some places? Or the freedom of information that parents beat their kids over if they're looking at?

What like incestual goat porn?

[woody]

freedom to kill your parents for brainwashing you

[pebkac]

What like incestual goat porn?

You mean that's wrong?

Personally though, I don't think the "terrorists don't deserve this" argument holds a lot of water. The point of a trial is to determine if they REALLY ARE terrorists. If they are, fine do whatever's neccessary. If they aren't, well, then I guess they do deserve a trial, don't they?

[FORSAKENR320]

WHITE POWER!

[Testm0nkey]

"The authorities aren't out there arresting Mary Rubelstien because her homemade apple pie looked like a bomb."

actually things like that have happened. and now mary's family wont know what happened to her. she will have just disappeared!

then once something does happen americans shout WHY DIDNT YOU DO MORE TO STOP IT! why? because the whole system is fucked

[False Dude]

What happened to the pie?

mmmm Strawberry-Rhubarb pie.

[Testm0nkey]

some sand niggers stole it

THERES COLORS DONT RUN 'MERICA

[woody]

[chook]

WHITE POWER!

if its white power, then why is it red?

[FORSAKENR320]

if its white power, then why is it red?

coated in nigger blood

[jonathan83]

Your blanket hatred for Muslims is absolutely idiotic and backwards. I'm assuming you just hate Muslims (BTW: Islam is the religion, not "Muslim"...) because of 9/11?

i'm pretty sure you've said something similar about Christianity and/or Christians.

i'm assuming it's because of all the crusades and hypocrites?

[nickluto]

I read some interesting information from a reliable source and have studied the Koran.

I laughed.

[Seeker]

US citizens not being tried in civilian courts: yeah ok red flag maybe. People like Timothy Mcvey(sp) I wouldnt have any qualms about it though. Screw them

some fucking towel head accused of terrorism: I dont give a fuck as long as they have solid PROOF that he did it.

little do you know that timothy mcveigh was a just a fall guy for the real perpetrators of the oklahoma city bombing... the same perpetrators of the 9/11 bombing... our own government

[Mommy]

little do you know that timothy mcveigh was a just a fall guy for the real perpetrators of the oklahoma city bombing... the same perpetrators of the 9/11 bombing... our own government

....



My head hurts

[Mommy]

I laughed.

I cried

[pysex]

You mean that's wrong?

Personally though, I don't think the "terrorists don't deserve this" argument holds a lot of water. The point of a trial is to determine if they REALLY ARE terrorists. If they are, fine do whatever's neccessary. If they aren't, well, then I guess they do deserve a trial, don't they?

the point is that they'll be tried in a military court instead of a public court...


because in a public court...there's always the chance they get off scott free


*cough* OJ *cough*

[FORSAKENR320]

....



My head hurts

i agree

[impala454]

little do you know that timothy mcveigh was a just a fall guy for the real perpetrators of the oklahoma city bombing... the same perpetrators of the 9/11 bombing... our own government

clinton was too busy gettin head to organize somethin like that

[Psykopath]

i'm pretty sure you've said something similar about Christianity and/or Christians.

i'm assuming it's because of all the crusades and hypocrites?

Specific groups: Westboro Baptist, and the like for example...yes.

ALL Christians? Perhaps once or twice here on Techsans, mainly out of jest or temporary anger.


The Crusades and famous Christian hypocrites do not help that certain relion's cause, that's for sure.

[impala454]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

[Mommy]

Specific groups: Westboro Baptist, and the like for example...yes.

ALL Christians? Perhaps once or twice here on Techsans, mainly out of jest or temporary anger.


The Crusades and famous Christian hypocrites do not help that certain relion's cause, that's for sure.

so you can say remarks like that, but heaven forbid I say "towel head". Additionally, I said they needed to have PROOF. If I really didnt care about the people, dont you think that I would have left that out? Honestly, I think its weird how you are quicker to take their side than you are a Christian's. If Im not mistaken, you are all like "oh gee oh my they are treating the terrorist suspects poorly." Its odd to me. They want to kill thousands. I dont think they should be tortured, but I dont shed a tear when they are

[Mommy]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

yes. exactly. I will agree to this.



Thats every hippy's excuse...THOSE NASTY CHRISTIANS DID IT 500 YEARS AGO SO THEY ARENT ANY BETTER. Guess what? Muslims have been acting like this since before the Crusades...and today they STILL are at it. Hmmm makes you think

This post has been edited by Jessica: Aug 18 2006, 04:49 PM

[Testm0nkey]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

islam is the second largest religion - fanatics are very few in number considering the size, just like christianity

whats your feelings on nazis? i mean they were killing jews left and right althought it was 70 some odd years ago.
they may feel the same but only a certain few do anything about it anymore

christians killed people left and right 500 some odd years ago (the crusades is not the last time major killing and massacres happened in the name of their god - hello discovery of the new world and "converting" native people)
sure we arent lopping off peoples heads off or castrating them anymore but there are some that still feel that way (fanatical christian groups)

and no muslims havent been "acting this way" for thousands of years

[Mommy]

islam is the second largest religion - fanatics are very few in number considering the size, just like christianity

whats your feelings on nazis? i mean they were killing jews left and right althought it was 70 some odd years ago.
they may feel the same but only a certain few do anything about it anymore

christians killed people left and right 500 some odd years ago (the crusades is not the last time major killing and massacres happened in the name of their god - hello discovery of the new world and "converting" native people)
sure we arent lopping off peoples heads off or castrating them anymore but there are some that still feel that way (fanatical christian groups)

and no muslims havent been "acting this way" for thousands of years

When they can pretty much make their own army with ONE fanaticalist group, yeah thats not so small in number anymore.

Nazis STILL want Jews and other minorities done away with. Yeah, there are still people that consider themselves to be Nazis. That argument goes out the window.


Christianity as a whole was very dark for about 600 years which includes the Crusades and the conquering of native people here in america. How long has the Muslim religion been like that? Since around the 8th or 9th century. Remember how the Moors (Muslims) conquered Spain.

[Testm0nkey]

the nazi statement wasnt an argument it was to illustrate an example

Christianity as a whole was very dark for about 600 years which includes the Crusades and the conquering of native people here in america. How long has the Muslim religion been like that? Since around the 8th or 9th century. Remember how the Moors (Muslims) conquered Spain.

what....
christian rome persecuted pagans, jews etc etc
so you are saying christianity has been equally as violent as the other major religion
yes

[Mommy]

the nazi statement wasnt an argument it was to illustrate an example


what....
christian rome persecuted pagans, jews etc etc
so you are saying christianity has been equally as violent as the other major religion
yes

you used it in a context as to argue that it happened 70 years ago so its not going on anymore in an attempt to devalidate what Impala said.

Its still going on today. Christian persecution towards Jews on the other hand is not. Thanks for playing

[Testm0nkey]

is the united states not a christian nation? have we not almost continously bombed the middle east for how many decades now? jews arent the only people that matter

love the attitude haha




annnnd topic dies WOOHOO

[Seussninja]

whats your feelings on nazis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[Psykopath]

so you can say remarks like that, but heaven forbid I say "towel head". Additionally, I said they needed to have PROOF. If I really didnt care about the people, dont you think that I would have left that out? Honestly, I think its weird how you are quicker to take their side than you are a Christian's. If Im not mistaken, you are all like "oh gee oh my they are treating the terrorist suspects poorly." Its odd to me. They want to kill thousands. I dont think they should be tortured, but I dont shed a tear when they are

You're so cute when you present an e-attitude! Keep it up and maybe you'll move out of the apathetic zone so common to our generation.

I love how you and impala completely twisted what I said. Remember how I said "out of jest or brief anger (brief as in my feelings were temporary and are not a reflection of my true attitudes)" when referring to 'blanket Christian bashing'? Nope? Ok, re-read please.

Did I say that because of the Crusades and certain fanatical groups that suddenly ALL Christians are bad? Nope.
Osama Bin Laden gives a bad name to Islam just as Pat Robertson gives a bad name to Christianity. Unfortunately, these two get a lot of air-time in their respective regions. And in the opposite region, they are believed to be the norm (in many instances).

I'm not quicker to take any one person or group's side or an issue. I look at both sides of an arguement and make a judgement based off of what information/proof/evidence I have before me. Try it sometime, it's a cool way to logically discuss an issue (addressed to both Jessica and Impala).


Play nice, kids.

[impala454]

Psykopath I have no ill feelings towards muslims at all. I know that it's a select group of radicals causing all the problems. It's the position I've always held. And I called you out on your "crusades didn't help Christianity" because it was a stupid comment that's not related to Christians today.

And the comparison to the Nazi regime doesn't make much sense either as it's not really a religion, and I'm not sure any good could ever come out of being a Nazi.

People are not terrorists because of religion. They're terrorists because they hate us and want to inflict pain and suffering on us (Americans). Some of them may use their religion as an excuse, but it simply boils down to hate. There are tons of other countries that are primarily Christian, why haven't they been attacked? The last major terror attacks have been on England (who has been our biggest ally) and us. They're attacking the United States, not Christianity. They hate us because they're on top. Just like it's easy to hate the number one team when it aint yours.

oh yeah and call me a kid all ya want... you were in jr high when i was in college

[Dogmeat]

i love god. yay.

[FORSAKENR320]

no one can deny that christianity THROUGH THE ENTIRE HISTORY has been filled full of blood shed fairly consistantly.





and i don't know about you, but i find that if i'm in the mood to find the most intolerant and closed minded people in large groups, i can head to a local christian church of almost any creed.


so, there is some truth. sure, it may not compare to christians NOW, but with their history, what about tommorow? a month from now? years? like an ex convict who's been locked up 4 different times, i'm not gonna trust him very much.

[Testm0nkey]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

good job on furthering your mastery of having a million posts all that bring absolutely nothing into the discussion or anything interesting

[Mommy]

I guess this confirms Cathryn is a female and has a menstrual cycle.


Greg's posts make me laugh. I enjoy them.

[Testm0nkey]

i dont actually menstrate. i have been able to reroute my feeble human organ systems and i can stomach and hold in menses until i have enough to cough up and store in jelly jars.

[pysex]

i dont actually menstrate.  i have been able to reroute my feeble human organ systems and i can stomach and hold in menses until i have enough to cough up and store in jelly jars.

and then use them as sexual lubricant

[Testm0nkey]

i typically use the stored up woman filth to bathe my animals and for cooking. i dont ever need sex lube?

[pysex]

i typically use the stored up woman filth to bathe my animals and for cooking.  i dont ever need sex lube?

oh ok...just the (EDIT) zorch squirt keeps things moving



remind me to never eat what you cook kthx

[False Dude]

oh ok...just the gina blood keeps things moving



remind me to never eat what you cook kthx

Her cooking is delicious.

[Seussninja]

good job on furthering your mastery of having a million posts all that bring absolutely nothing into the discussion or anything interesting

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ok.

[Testm0nkey]

football

yes i see what you mean. lolllllls

[pebkac]

I guess this confirms Cathryn is a female and has a menstrual cycle.


Greg's posts make me laugh. I enjoy them.

Holy shit. Cathryn's a female?

[GOB]

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ok.

hey look, it's me

[Seussninja]

hey look, it's me

A WINNER

[Seussninja]

i typically use the stored up woman filth to bathe my animals and for cooking. i dont ever need sex lube?

lollzzzzzzz

[Mommy]

Holy shit. Cathryn's a female?

i dont know. she has the biggest e-penis on this site hence why I thought she swung a dick in between her legs in real life

[Seussninja]

i dont know. she has the biggest e-penis on this site hence why I thought she swung a dick in between her legs in real life

Hey be nice! Don't make me fire extinguish this flame war early

[Seussninja]

Hey be nice! Don't make me fire extinguish this flame war early

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ok.

in last place... :'(


BUT STILL AHEAD OF GREGO THEREBY PROVING HIS POINT ZOMG

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What's sad is that I don't even try to be the post whore that I am.

I fail at life...

[pebkac]

What's sad is that I don't even try to be the post whore that I am.

I fail at life...

That usually happens if you don't land on the med school space.

[GOB]

sand. niggers.

[woody]

from terror bill to post count....

[Mommy]

sand. niggers.

hah you said "sand"

[Seussninja]

from terror bill to post count....

I WILL BAN YOU

[GOB]

1500

[pysex]

1 billion


























i wish

[Testm0nkey]

i dont know. she has the biggest e-penis on this site hence why I thought she swung a dick in between her legs in real life

no i will not fuck you

[Mommy]

no i will not fuck you

phew. thats a load off my mind. thank god.

[Psykopath]

hah you said "sand"

lolz

[chook]

this is silly and makes he giggle

[Seussninja]

this is silly and makes he giggle

Do not speak such of Jesus

[woody]

[Seussninja]

Jesus was white and you know it