Japan debates strikes on N. Korea, nigga please... Options

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TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Japan said Monday it was considering whether a pre-emptive strike on the North's missile bases would violate its constitution, signaling a hardening stance ahead of a possible U.N. Security Council vote on Tokyo's proposal for sanctions against the regime.

While Japan talked of sanctions, China -- North Korea's top ally and benefactor -- pressed ahead with its diplomatic efforts to draw North Korea back to stalled six-nation talks on its nuclear weapons program, dispatching a high-profile delegation to Pyongyang on Monday.

U.S. nuclear envoy Christopher Hill huddled with Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso and other officials in Tokyo on a tour of the region to coordinate a common strategy on the North's missile tests last week and urge Pyongyang to drop its months-long boycott of the nuclear talks.

North Korea's missile tests last week caused no injuries or damage, but they sparked international condemnation. Officials in Japan -- badly shaken by the tests -- said Monday they were mulling whether their pacifist constitution allowed pre-emptive strikes on North Korean missile targets.

"If we accept that there is no other option to prevent an attack ... there is the view that attacking the launch base of the guided missiles is within the constitutional right of self-defense. We need to deepen discussion," said Chief Cabinet Secretary Shinzo Abe.

Japan's U.S.-drafted constitution, untouched since it was enacted after World War II, foreswears the use of war to settle international disputes, but the government has interpreted that to allow defensive forces. The question is whether such a pre-emptive strike could be defined as self-defense.

those poor bastards are still picking fallout out of their hair from WW2...

japan doesn't wanna go through that again. and I feel 'em.

ok so...throw the whole constitutional debate out the window and let's say japan decides to attack n.korea...

c'mon motherfucker...compared to n. korea's army, the SDF is like a fireteam.

japan ain't gonna do jack shit!

dumbasses...

[pebkac]

I didn't even realize Japan still HAD an army.

[Seeker]

i'm all for letting japan fight them on their side of the world, while we stick to our side of the world in isolation

just sell some crazy american super-weapons shit to japan and let them take care of nk

BUT i don't support a pre-emptive strike... i am not for wars of aggression

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those poor bastards are still picking fallout out of their hair from WW2...

japan doesn't wanna go through that again. and I feel 'em.

ok so...throw the whole constitutional debate out the window and let's say japan decides to attack n.korea...

c'mon motherfucker...compared to n. korea's army, the SDF is like a fireteam.

japan ain't gonna do jack shit!

dumbasses...

japan's army isn't gonna do jack shit...

But ours could completley level north korea's entire military, infrastructure, and god only knows what else ... without nukes, and without ever setting foot on the ground.....

And if Japan were to attack, we'd have to come to their aide or they'd be hurt badly...

However, all of this would undboutedly draw china in on DRPK's side which would put russia in a horrible spot and really upset the balance of peace and power in the world.

so we should invent transporter beams and just beam north korea to venus

[schwab]

north korea has no infrastructure to destroy

[pebkac]

And if Japan were to attack, we'd have to come to their aide or they'd be hurt badly...

Meh, if Japan were to attack, I say let em get their asses handed to them. Now, if the DPRK were to counter-attack Japan, THEN we'd have to come to their aid. We can't let Kim Jong Il be a nuclear power AND an economic power.

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And if Japan were to attack, we'd have to come to their aide or they'd be hurt badly...

I honestly don't think so.

thus far the administration's position on NK is to go about dealing with them via the UN security council...most importantly making sure russia and china is on board with telling them to stand down and stfu.

if japan's suicidal bonzai crazy ass crapshit SDF went over there, they'd be on their own for the, oh, 2hrs and 47 minutes that the war lasted.

all that radiation from nagasaki and hiroshima musta fucked up their ability to analyze self-sustainment in the face of a greater enemy, while simultaneously benefitting them with super-human video game and consumer eletronic powers!

[Hartmann]

north korea has no infrastructure to destroy

Exactly... Just people living in poor conditions who more than likely want to die or are so brainwashed by their leader that they don't mind dying.

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regardless of infatructure or not...make no mistake...N Korea's army is seriously hotshit.

neither us nor our allies have faced an army on the battlefield that strong since germany. there are currently no contingency plans on the table regarding war with NK that do not include nuclear strikes. it's not just an option...it's a necessity.

so for japan to say they are debating an attack is the funniest thing I've read in a while.

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I don't have exact numbers for NK's army but it's something like 1 million ground forces and 7 million reservists.

vs ~200,000 japs.

LMFAO

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i think this thread needs this pic:

[Hartmann]

I don't have exact numbers for NK's army but it's something like 1 million ground forces and 7 million reservists.

vs ~200,000 japs.

LMFAO

That's what I'm saying... They'll throw people at the problem, just like they did in the Korean War.

[Seeker]

how many do you think would desert from the nk army?

you know the majority of those guys hate the repressive nk gov

[Hartmann]

how many do you think would desert from the nk army?

you know the majority of those guys hate the repressive nk gov

Can't hate repressiveness if you don't know what repressed is.

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how many do you think would desert from the nk army?

you know the majority of those guys hate the repressive nk gov

seriously? about zero.

even if someone wanted to, their family would most certainly pay for the treason.

[Seeker]

well what a bunch of homos then, they deserve to get nuked

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haha I really, honestly don't have a problem with nuking a few countries off the map. or a whole region for that matter.

but korea isn't one of them. just ride it out until that crazy fucker dies. I'm sure a lot of koreans are thinking that way.

[impala454]

my bro-in-law is a captain in artillery, he spent a year in south korea right up on the border last year, said they had enough firepower (non nuclear) aimed at NK to level half the country in the first few minutes should any war break out.

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cool, but NK too has enough arty along the 38th to launch ~5 million shells an hour. SK reports that NK is believed to maintain 2,500 to 5,000 tons of chemical agents, primarily mustard, phosgene, sarin, and V-series nerve agents (none of which we will ever employ), some is stored in bulk, but a significant portion loaded in warheads at the ready.

there is no non-nuclear contingency plan.

we're not gonna chance artillery volleys with that shit. the fast movers would hit them hard with nukes at the outset.

the skipper-in-law was there in a posturing/security role. nothing more.

I ran recon patrols along there and up into the DMZ. you play little cat and mouse games to see what they have and how far you can push each other. same with the planes. we have a lot of infantry battallions and raid units up there. and tanks. and...you get my point.

but yeah, it's all posturing/security.

[FORSAKENR320]

regardless of infatructure or not...make no mistake...N Korea's army is seriously hotshit.

neither us nor our allies have faced an army on the battlefield that strong since germany. there are currently no contingency plans on the table regarding war with NK that do not include nuclear strikes. it's not just an option...it's a necessity.

so for japan to say they are debating an attack is the funniest thing I've read in a while.

i was gonna say the same thing.

history also showed how much those bastards are willing to fight.

yes, we were there doing police action, and had our hands severely tied, but don't doubt those bitches know how to fight.

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your avatar makes me fear that the feds are gonna confiscate my computer for having viewed it...

[slick]

haha. yeah, i stared at that shit for the better half of the last ten minutes.

[James]

You know, if they go around publicizing that they're considering a pre-emptive attack, NK might just make them turn it into a counter-attack

[jonathan83]

Japan won't attack unless they know the USA will be behind with them.

[jonathan83]

South Korea already condemned Japan's little statement on a pre-emptive strike.
I mean really, Japan wouldn't do anything. They're just saying stuff to see what NK might say, or someone just blurted it out without thinking.

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[FORSAKENR320]

your avatar makes me fear that the feds are gonna confiscate my computer for having viewed it...

i made it myself!


haha

[nickluto]

i made it myself!


haha

i dont think pink is your color...

[chook]

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